JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

[farhan_9909]

According to Flight International's World Air Forces 2011-12, Pakistan has...

PAKISTAN AIR FORCE
Type Active Ordered
Combat aircraft
F-7 143
F-16A/C 36
JF-17 29 70
Mirage IIIEL/EP/OF/RP 80
Mirage 5EF/F/PA 85

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What has changed in the last 6 months?

care to provide the link?

36 f16?i AM SURE THE LIST is as old as 20 years

 

[farhan_9909]

U.S. to provide 14 F-16 jet planes to Pakistan


well they would not be the latest block 52 and rather block 50 or block 40 from the EDA

and the delivery was first delayed to 2011 mid but in 2012 Jan
Janes reported that the delivery will be done done in Dec 2012

reported by Janes but posted in this site.since we dont have Janes account

PAF Falcons - Pakistan to receive surplus US F-16 fighters


and the plan is of 150 jft by now but once we induct it they would order more

well initial the plan was of 250 jft but right now the confirmed are 150

 

[Defcon 1]

U.S. to provide 14 F-16 jet planes to Pakistan


well they would not be the latest block 52 and rather block 50 or block 40 from the EDA

and the delivery was first delayed to 2011 mid but in 2012 Jan
Janes reported that the delivery will be done done in Dec 2012

reported by Janes but posted in this site.since we dont have Janes account

PAF Falcons - Pakistan to receive surplus US F-16 fighters


and the plan is of 150 jft by now but once we induct it they would order more

well initial the plan was of 250 jft but right now the confirmed are 150

We will see when they come.

As I said, the current plan is only for 150. It is possible that they will induct more. Will depend on many factors including money and how blk III comes out. For me, blk II has been a disappointment(a happy one).

 

[farhan_9909]

they are much better than What they are replacing

and the block 2will bring surprises as well

 

[Defcon 1]

they are much better than What they are replacing

and the block 2will bring surprises as well

Every aircraft is better than what it replaces, if that becomes the criteria for measuring progress, humanity will be doomed.

Blk II will have a slightly higher range radar and an IRST. Makes you wonder that Blk didn't even have IRST.

 

[farhan_9909]

Every aircraft is better than what it replaces, if that becomes the criteria for measuring progress, humanity will be doomed.

Blk II will have a slightly higher range radar and an IRST. Makes you wonder that Blk didn't even have IRST.

only a slightly higher range radar
improved avionics
IFR
new weapons integration
and composites(jft prototype had 8%. While the production variant had more)the jft will have slightly more

cost between 25-31millions

 

[farhan_9909]

on IRST
no aesa
no increased hardpoin

 

[p2prada]

You forgot to add a slightly uprated engine. The RD-93MA.

 

[farhan_9909]

You forgot to add a slightly uprated engine. The RD-93MA.

i Am not sure about this

that May be for export customer

but as per sipri pak got engines directly from Russia

not through China

 

[Blackwater]

i Am not sure about this

that May be for export customer

but as per sipri pak got engines directly from Russia

not through China

 

[Armand2REP]

care to provide the link?

36 f16?i AM SURE THE LIST is as old as 20 years

You can download the database here...

World Air Forces 2011-2012 - Pictures & Photos on FlightGlobal Airspace

 

[Defcon 1]

only a slightly higher range radar
improved avionics
IFR
new weapons integration
and composites(jft prototype had 8%. While the production variant had more)the jft will have slightly more

cost between 25-31millions

Please clarify the term "new weapons integration".

 

[farhan_9909]

Please clarify the term "new weapons integration".

first of all the python 4 sibling from Brazil MAA-1B as a primary wvr

May be the sd10b

and yes the raa'd
dont know about the rest

 

[farhan_9909]

You can download the database here...

World Air Forces 2011-2012 - Pictures & Photos on FlightGlobal Airspace

but checkout any other site
the numbers are different

63 active f16
and 49 jft(38 OPERATIONAL AS OF NOV 2011)

 

[Defcon 1]

first of all the python 4 sibling from Brazil MAA-1B as a primary wvr

May be the sd10b

and yes the raa'd
dont know about the rest

These are not dependent on characteristics of the aircrafts. For example, if SD10B can be integrated with blk II, it can also integrated with blk I, unless of course the radar range doesn't become an issue. The aircarft is basically the same.

 

[Armand2REP]

but checkout any other site
the numbers are different

63 active f16
and 49 jft(38 OPERATIONAL AS OF NOV 2011)

At the very most it would have 52, not 63. There were 34 with 18 ordered in 2010. The Peace Gate aircraft are headed to retirement and should be replaced with the 18+18 Peace Drive aircraft. End strength should be 36.

 

[farhan_9909]

At the very most it would have 52, not 63. There were 34 with 18 ordered in 2010. The Peace Gate aircraft are headed to retirement and should be replaced with the 18+18 Peace Drive aircraft. End strength should be 36.

end of discussion with this
63 in service
14 more to be received(surplus)
total strength by 2012 end is 77

future possibilities
32 embargo one(paid in 90's)

and option for more 18 block 52 is still on

well paf will end with odd 100 f16 at the end

and paf wont replace f16 TILL ATLEAST 2030-35
rose upgrade mirage/f7pg till 2020

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_users_article14.html

 

[Armand2REP]

end of discussion with this
63 in service
14 more to be received(surplus)
total strength by 2012 end is 77

future possibilities
32 embargo one(paid in 90's)

and option for more 18 block 52 is still on

well paf will end with odd 100 f16 at the end

and paf wont replace f16 TILL ATLEAST 2030-35
rose upgrade mirage/f7pg till 2020

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_users_article14.html

end of discussion with this
36 in service
no more being recieved
80s Peace Gate aircraft retired

future possibilities
J-10

F-16 is going in the dust bin

Procurement: F-16 Production Finally Winds Down

 

[farhan_9909]

end of discussion with this
36 in service
no more being recieved
80s Peace Gate aircraft retired

future possibilities
J-10

F-16 is going in the dust bin

Procurement: F-16 Production Finally Winds Down

live in your dream than

14more coming f16 are the surplus.
Future
J10
jft 3

Close future

 

[Defcon 1]

live in your dream than

14more coming f16 are the surplus.
Future
J10
jft 3

Close future

No more are coming. Come out of your dream. Ask your friends in pakistan. They will confirm it too.