Iran Military Developments

Would Iran having a Nuclear Bomb benefit India vis-a-vis Pakistan?

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Nothing confusing in this. It would be inappropriate to be hostile towards each other in international area when you are not at war. The Iranian plane was unarmed. maybe wanted to take pics of the carrier for his scrap book or may be really gather intel. Dont know of what nature would that be. It would have snowballed into a major diplomatic issue if the US carrier had shot down an unarmed plane with no hostile intent.
 

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of-course confusing.Few days ago chinese submarine get close to US aircraft carrier,now Iranian aircraft flew across an US aircraft carrier.American response is its noting just this or that.Its not typical way to respond to threat by US.US under the leadership president Obama is behaving like soft nation.Isnt it Yusy sir.
 

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What else do you expect? If they shoot down a plane in international space its an act of war. Thats the cat and mouse game played for years. American and soviets kept doing itt to each other.
The british and russian pilots have often said hi to each other on patrol missions.
 

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What else do you expect? If they shoot down a plane in international space its an act of war.
At least some kind of aggressive posturing during the accident.

American and soviets kept doing itt to each other.
of course they did but thwart the attackers or spy aggressive way.Not Like this just issue a statement after accident.

The british and russian pilots have often said hi to each other on patrol missions.
But chased-out by each other aggressively in their respective air space.
 
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Will you slap you neighbor who you dont have good relations with in the middle of the road or give him a brush just for the heck of it?
 

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Will you slap you neighbor who you dont have good relations with in the middle of the road or give him a brush just for the heck of it?
If he intimidate me.I will certainly not back out.
 

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But no one was intimidating. US navy op procedures dont change with presidents. They would have taken appropriate measures if the iranian pilot had acted funny.
 

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If he intimidate me.I will certainly not back out.
Sadly, In the International Arena, You will get slapped back and it will snowball into something Big! There are Rules of Engagement and the USN is not the Somali Pirates, they wont fire upon until and unless clear warnings were given and the trajectory of the incoming plane is deemed to be harmful to the Ship in the midst of this. In this case, its been clearly stated the USN has been tracking this plane for a hundred miles and they didnt see it hostile.
 

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In this case, its been clearly stated the USN has been tracking this plane for a hundred miles and they didnt see it hostile.
Exactly thats what i want to say when they track the plane , they could have easily chased out from dangerous area or warned off not just allowed plane to get as near as 300 mt of dangerous area .
 

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But no one was intimidating. US navy op procedures dont change with presidents. They would have taken appropriate measures if the iranian pilot had acted funny.
doesn't reflect a president's policy on nations foreign and strategic policy
 

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An unarmed plane 300 mtrs away is dangerous? Like I said before, navy procedures don't change just like that. That plane would have been shot down if it had gotten any closer and had any hostile motive.
 

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An unarmed plane 300 mtrs away is dangerous?
isnt it dangerous?although I am not a military expert.


Like I said before, navy procedures don't change just like that.
But certainly influenced by his/her policies.

That plane would have been shot down if it had gotten any closer and had any hostile motive
motive? How could you sure of Iranian motive?
 

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The iranians could have well sent their dummy Tomcats if they had any intent.
 

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Iranian navy begins eight-day war games in Gulf



TEHRAN: Iran's navy launched an eight-day drill on Wednesday in the Gulf, media reports said, just less than two weeks after similar wargames were held by the country's elite Revolutionary Guards.

The naval exercises are being held in the Gulf, Sea of Oman and the northern Indian Ocean covering an area of 250,000 square kilometres (around 97,000 square miles). Iranian media said the country's newly deployed and domestically-made warship, Jamaran, was also taking part in the naval exercise.

Iran says the vessel has a displacement of around 1,400 tonnes and is equipped with modern radars and electronic warfare capabilities. In the past year the Iranian navy has carried out a number of missions in the Gulf and offshore Somalia where it was commissioned to escort Iranian merchant ships and oil tankers.

Iran's armed forces regularly conduct such drills which boast of their military abilities and often test-fire what they say are home-built missiles during these exercises.

Late last month the Guards held wargames in the Gulf and the key oil route of Strait of Hormuz.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\05\06\story_6-5-2010_pg20_8
 

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Iran tests anti-submarine torpedo

Iran's navy has successfully test-fired an anti-submarine torpedo on the fifth day of its military maneuvers in the country's southern waters.

The navy carried out successful drills aimed at tracking and targeting hostile submarines, Iranian military spokesman Rear Admiral Qasem Rostamabadi announced Sunday.

The torpedoes were fired from Iran's domestically-built destroyer, Jamaran -- a multi purpose warship that blends anti-submarine capabilities with defense systems against surface and air attacks.

Admiral Rostamabadi said the 1,420-ton destroyer, launched earlier this year, will be dispatched to the Gulf of Aden and Indian Ocean following the drills in the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman.

The six-phase exercise backed by Iranian military's air and ground forces, dubbed Velayat 89, will continue for another three days.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=125927&sectionid=351020101
 

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Iranian missiles could target western Europe by 2014: IISS


Iran could target western Europe with missiles by 2014, although it would take at least twice as long before they could hit the United States, experts said in a report published Monday.Tehran is more than a decade away from developing a missile capable of reaching the US east coast, the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) said in a report on Iran's ballistic missile capabilities.The London-based group said Iran was making "robust strides" in developing ballistic missiles "in tandem" with its efforts to expand its nuclear capabilities.

"The two programmes appear to be connected, with the aim of giving Iran the capability to deliver nuclear warheads well beyond its borders," it said.

Iran's ballistic missiles could be used to wage a terror campaign in the Middle East, it added, although its missiles are at present too inaccurate to shut down another country's critical military activities.While Iran has been alongside North Korea in developing missile capabilities, Tehran has now surpassed Pyongyang in terms of technical ability, the IISS experts said.

The United States and Europe have long accused Iran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons under the guise of its civilian nuclear energy programme, a charge Tehran denies."Flight test programmes for solid-propellant missiles historically take on average more than four years," the report said."To achieve a reasonable measure of reliability and confidence, a dozen or more test flights should be conducted.

"Therefore, Iran is not likely to field a liquid-fuelled missile capable of targeting western Europe before 2014 or 2015."The "worst-case scenario" projected at the turn of the century about Iran being able to strike the United States within five years has not materialised, the study said.

However, "logic and the history of Iran's evolutionary missile and space-launcher development efforts suggest that Tehran would develop and field an intermediate-range missile before embarking on a programme to develop an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capable of reaching the American east coast, 9,000 kilometres away.

"It is thus reasonable to conclude that a notional ICBM... is more than a decade away in development."Iran's space programme launches have been "proof-of-principle demonstrations", offering no immediate strategic value beyond symbolism, said the report.

The IISS estimated that Iran has around 200 to 300 Shahab-1 and -2 missiles capable of reaching targets in neighbouring countries."Iran's ballistic missiles could be used as a political weapon to wage a terror campaign against adversary cities," primarily in the Middle East, the report said.

"While such attacks might trigger fear, the expected casualties would be low -- probably less than a few hundred, even assuming Iran unleashed its entire ballistic missile arsenal and that a majority of the warheads penetrated missile defences."The military utility of Iran's ballistic missiles is severely limited because of their very poor accuracy."The missiles would probably be incapable of shutting down critical military activities."

http://theasiandefence.blogspot.com/2010/05/iranian-missiles-could-target-western.html#more
 

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'Fajr 5' rocket fired during Iran war game


A file photo of 'Fajr 5' rocket.

TEHRAN : Iranian Army has fired 'Fajr 5' rocket for the first time during the 'Velayat 89' war games on Monday.

"The domestically manufactured defensive rocket was used for the first time during the five-stage military exercise of 'Velayat 89' which started last Wednesday and will continue till May 12, " IRNA quoted Commander of Army's Ground Force Brigadier General Ahmad-Reza Pourdastan as saying.

The ongoing military drill is an indication to the high potentials of the regional states for the establishment of security in the Mideast region, the commander added.

Meanwhile, military officials from Iraq, Qatar and Oman were invited by the Iran Ministry of Defense and Armed Forces Logistics to attend the final stage of the war games.

It is the first time that military officials from Iraq are attending an Iranian military exercise as observers whereas this is the second time that Qatar is taking part in the event. Qatari military delegation previously attended the Great Prophet 5 war games as observers, the news report said.

Different units of the Iranian Army displayed their defensive and deterrent naval power in a vast area which included the Persian Gulf, Sea of Oman and northern Indian Ocean regions.

http://www.brahmand.com/news/Fajr-5-rocket-fired-during-Iran-war-game/3872/1/11.html
 

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US Navy Ships Stay far from Iranian Wargame Zone

TEHRAN- The Iranian Army's massive naval wargames in the Persian Gulf pushed the US warships back from their deployment areas, a senior Army commander said on Tuesday, adding that the US navy ships kept a 300km distance from the region of the Iranian drills.


Commander of the Iranian Army Major General Ataollah Salehi told reporters that trans-regional forces will very well get the message of Iran's current wargames.

"That the trans-regional powers' warships have kept a distance from our region shows better that the message is understood," Salehi said.

"That these warships have kept a 300 to 400 km distance (from the region of Iran's military drills) also has a message of its own and shows that the Islamic Republic of Iran is much serious in safeguarding its interests," the commander added.

Salehi also stressed Iran's capability to challenge the US in all the international, political, military and scientific arenas.

Elsewhere, the commander said that the Army successfully test-fired two sophisticated coast-to-sea Nour missiles on the seventh day of the military drills in Iran's southern waters in the Persian Gulf and Sea of Oman.

On Saturday, the Iranian Navy announced that it has equipped its hovercrafts with a newly-manufactured anti-ship cruise missile, called Nour (Light), to boost the military power of its vessels in confronting potential enemy threats.

Nour is a long-range anti-ship cruise missile manufactured by Iran and has already been mounted on several military gears.

Early in March 2010, Iran's first home-made destroyer, 'Jamaran', successfully test-fired the powerful and intelligent 'Nour' missile.

The Nour (light) surface-to-surface missiles successfully hit their specified targets in the test.

The Iranian Army announced earlier today that it had successfully test-fired two long-range coast-to-sea missiles on the 7th day of the drills. The Iranian Army also test-fired a wide range of other hi-tech and newly updated missiles and weapons during the six-staged naval drills which began on Wednesday. The exercises will last for 8 days.

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8902211434
 

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Iran tests cruise missiles in southern waters: report

Iran test-fired the sophisticated mid-range cruise missiles on the seventh day of military exercises in the country's southern waters, the local satellite Press TV reported on Tuesday.

The Iranian Navy, which is conducting the maneuvers, tested on Tuesday the mid-range surface to surface Nour (Light) missile launched from the homemade Jamaran Destroyer, the report said.

Iran's navy started war games in the country's southern waters on Wednesday, the official IRNA news agency reported.

Two mid-range coast-to-sea cruise missiles were also test-fired on Tuesday and successfully hit their simulated targets, according to Press TV.

The cruise missiles have a range of 50-60 kilometers and can evade radars as they fly at very low altitudes, said Press TV.

The Navy's military exercise dubbed "Velayat 89" is currently being conducted in the Strait of Hormuz, the Sea of Oman and northern part of Indian ocean.

Iran's navy commander Rear Admiral Habibollah Sayyari said Monday that Iran's navy will conduct the military drill in six phases which will last eight days, the local satellite Press TV reported.

http://www.china.org.cn/world/2010-05/11/content_20020110.htm
 

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Iran's Navy Already a Threat to Oil Tankers, Moscow Analyst Concludes

Iran's Navy Already a Threat to Oil Tankers, Moscow Analyst Concludes

Vienna, May 10 – Despite its efforts over the last several years, Iran is not yet the naval power it hopes to become, according to a Moscow analyst, but Tehran already has sufficient capacity to disrupt shipments of oil in the Persian Gulf, an ability that already "represents a serious danger and requires an adequate response from the international community."

In an assessment of "The Naval Power of Iran: From Intention to Reality" prepared for the Moscow Near Eastern Institute, V.V. Yevseyev argues that most of what Iran has done in this sector to date represents "a cover" for plans to engage in "diversionary activity" in the Persian Gulf against shipping .

But both because that alone represents a serious problem and because Iran continues to purchase naval equipment abroad and develop its own domestic ship-building capacity, Yevseyev continues, the Iranian naval effort deserves far more attention from foreign governments than it has normally received.

Last February, the Moscow analyst says, "took place an important event in the development of the naval forces" of Iran: the launch of the first, 1420-ton minesweeper that Iran had produced on its own, one armed with "Noor" cruise missiles, "the Iranian version of the Chinese S-802.

This ship, the "Jamaran," Yevseyev reports on the basis of Iranian statements, has a helicopter pad and places for rocket complexes, something that would allow it "simultaneously to carry out a fight with submarines, aircraft, and weapons of an opponent under conditions of radio-electronic struggle."

But the analyst continues, "an analysis of the information available permits the conclusion that in reality, the Iranian specialists have constructed a multi-purpose guard ship" for its coastal waters, the kind of ship that NATO governments refer to as a corvette and one that is intended to work together with shore batteries.

As such, Yevseyev points out, the new Iranian ship represents only a slight updating of the Alvand, built by Britain's Vosper Yards and sold to Tehran "at the end of the 1960s." And that in turn suggests that despite all claims to the contrary, the "Jamaran" is "in it essential features at the technological level of the 1960s and 1970s," rather than later.

But if most of the ship's equipment is thus relatively primitive, Yevseyev says, the weapons systems it carries are far more modern. The "Jamaran" has already this year carried out successful tests of the cruise missiles adapted from China's S-802, a system created about two decades ago.

Iran "had planned to purchase in China a large number" of such missiles and was able to buy approximately 80 of them before "under American pressure, China was forced to stop further shipments" of this technology to Tehran. Iran is now seeking to produce its own on the basis of copying this technology, but it is uncertain whether it has achieved its goal.

Taking everything into consideration, Yevseyev says, "it becomes obvious that Iran's Jamaran has sufficiently current rocket technology [to inflict serious harm on its opponents]" but that its other systems are out of date, at least compared to the most advanced guidance and tracking systems available.

Those shortcomings, he says, will significantly "limit" the ability of Tehran to use with success its anti-ship cruise missiles. Besides, the Iranian ship does not have serious anti-aircraft (anti-rocket) defense." Thus, it becomes "an easy target for a strong opponent," such as those Iran might expect to face during a serious crisis.

But the Jamaran and the nine other corvettes in Iran's inventory, even if most of them were built or reflect the technologies of the 1960s, are already sufficient "to demonstrate its emerging naval power [to neighboring countries] and to support [Tehran's] pretensions to regional leadership."

And such ships, Yevseyev says, suggest that "Iran in fact is really preparing for something completely different," a "diversionary war." That conclusion is suggested both the fast cutters Tehran has purchased from Italy and its continuing construction – with a total fleet approaching 20 -- of new rocket cutters.

Also providing support for that conclusion, the Moscow military analyst says, are Iran's purchases of "super-small submarines" displacing about 100 tons from North Korea and its own development of three diesel-powered mini-subs which have a displacement of approximately 500 tons.

Such ships, working together with shore facilities, like the one created in Jask near the Straits of Hormuz in October 2008 and the "not fewer than four analogous points" that Tehran is planning to open, could inflict enormous damage, all the more so, Yevseyev points out, because Iranian commanders have focused on "the negative experience of the Iran-Iraq war."

During that conflict, Iranian commanders sent their fleet out against Iraq all at once, something that made it "an easy target" for Iraqi aviation. Now, Yevseyev says, Tehran is developing a naval strategy based on "decentralization" and the launching of "disinformation" campaigns against its opponents, something that makes even its small fleet dangerous.

http://georgiandaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=18559&Itemid=132
 

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