INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

[Lonewarrior]

considering the ballistics of a 5.56 out of a 5-8 inch barrell, i would stick to 300blk, most of these guns are meant for 300blk. The sig rattler, the scar sc and the daniel defence pdw for example.

There's a bit difference between "I would stick to BLK" and "most of these guns are meant for BLK".

All are available in 5.56. Moreover some are available in 5.56 only.

 

[Blue Water Navy]

I am a big fan of INSAS rifle, i have even called the rifle that won us the kargil many times. the rifle is cocktail of FN-FAL and AK47 design. this rifle made sense in the 90's but not any more.

personally, i still find that 5.56x45 FMJ 62gr is a still a better round compared to 7.62 of that AK round..
but INSAS is not the best rifle to fire 62gr round.

sadly, the time has come for INSAS and AK's Family
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Fikar not!!!! India is getting the Negev to replace all its LMG's.

Watch Out: India's Army Is Getting Israeli-Made Machine Guns

What do they plan to do with them?

nationalinterest.org

 

[Lonewarrior]

Fikar not!!!! India is getting the Negev to replace all its LMG's.

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Watch Out: India's Army Is Getting Israeli-Made Machine Guns

What do they plan to do with them?

nationalinterest.org

The current requirement is of more than 40,000 machine guns.

We are getting 16,000 Negev NG-7.

And these are GPMG/MMG, not LMG.

 

[Blue Water Navy]

The current requirement is of more than 40,000 machine guns.

We are getting 16,000 Negev NG-7.

And these are GPMG/MMG, not LMG.

Does they work differently from a m240? I mean by range, rate of fire?

 

[Lonewarrior]

Does they work differently from a m240? I mean by range, rate of fire?

Yup, both use different methods of locking, feeding and also recoil management.

But the most important difference from a soldier's perspective is weight. Negev NG-7 weighs 2-3kg less than M240.

 

[ManhattanProject]

Yup, both use different methods of locking, feeding and also recoil management.

But the most important difference from a soldier's perspective is weight. Negev NG-7 weighs 2-3kg less than M240.

It has a semi auto mode as well.

 

[Lonewarrior]

It has a semi auto mode as well.

Yup.
But that's only good for zeroing. You can't place precision shots in semi auto with a GPMG.

 

[ManhattanProject]

Yup.
But that's only good for zeroing. You can't place precision shots in semi auto with a GPMG.

You could if you really had to, i agree its for zeroing though.

 

[Lonewarrior]

You could if you really had to, i agree its for zeroing though.

Stamped body and long stroke gas piston, I seriously doubt that.
Every machine gun is not Ma Deuce.

 

[WARREN SS]

Well that could have been said about Accuracy International when they got their first order. We all know about the AWM right?

They started With minimum orders not bulk

Lets First order 1000 Snipers And Test it in operational service foe 2-3 years

 

[Lonewarrior]

They started With minimum orders not bulk

Lets First order 1000 Snipers And Test it in operational service foe 2-3 years

That's how things are supposed to work but that's not how they work.

Ok leave it. This was your doubt.

SSS defense as firm has not even turn over of 100 cr

The turnover of SSS Springs, the parent company of SSS Defence has a turnover of 600 Cr.
So no matter what they offer in the name of a completely IDDM sniper rifle, they can easily bag the tender.

 

[WARREN SS]

That's how things are supposed to work but that's not how they work.

Ok leave it. This was your doubt.

The turnover of SSS Springs, the parent company of SSS Defence has a turnover of 600 Cr.
So no matter what they offer in the name of a completely IDDM sniper rifle, they can easily bag the tender.

how It related To Weapons Manufacturing

 

[Lonewarrior]

how It related To Weapons Manufacturing

No one cares.

 

[WARREN SS]

No one cares.

MOD cares

 

[Blue Water Navy]

Yup, both use different methods of locking, feeding and also recoil management.

But the most important difference from a soldier's perspective is weight. Negev NG-7 weighs 2-3kg less than M240.

Sorry wrote it wrong. What I meant was, how good is it compared to M240 which is a MMG for US army?

 

[Lonewarrior]

Sorry wrote it wrong. What I meant was, how good is it compared to M240 which is a MMG for US army?

As Negev NG-7 is pretty new, so it's bit difficult to comment on its service life (structural strength related).

Other than that it's better than M240.

 

[Lonewarrior]

MOD cares

Actually no.
Indeed you have laws governing everything in defence procurements, but believe me exploiting loopholes in laws is cakewalk.

 

[harpreet288]

Camo looks like IA. But IA had rejected JVPC right ? And it was only ordered by CAPF. So how come the above pic ??

He is from the Paramilitary,they also wear the same camo as amry.

 

[Lonewarrior]

Tell us any particular problem why Small Arms are shit??

There are many, but as you asked for why. The answer is pretty straightforward.

Small arms are designed by committee and made by government owned entities.

Btw enjoy this video

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

OFB Excalibur Rifle
Chattisgarh Armed Police (CAF)