INSAS Indian Small Arms System

[Shaitan]

We also need a F-INSAS LMG to replace the Brens. No magazines for the LMGs, but belt fed.

 

[ALBY]

We also need a F-INSAS LMG to replace the Brens. No magazines for the LMGs, but belt fed.

Why not an insas lmg just like m249 which could be both belt and mag fed

 

[Rehan's_Ninjato]

What happened to the Trich assault rifle? Any pics?

 

[ALBY]

What happened to the Trich assault rifle? Any pics?

Just only one pic published yet.and no specifications available too..Developing a 7.62 rifle will not be a beneficial one as comparing to the development of a new insas coz imported AKs and VZs are very cheap and they are very fine.From the info given by the ofb sources it is clear that the range of the proposed rifle is just 400mts which is equal to the other rifles in 7.62 league and we couldn't expect pinpoint accuracy also from it.
Plus the we have to develop the rifle from scratch so the initial cost for infrastructure and R&D will be also high.Also we may not be able to find much buyers for the new trichy rifle due to the wide proliferation of kalashnikov derivatives due to its reliability and cheap cost.
Instead if we put all the input into designing and manufacturing of a new 5.56 or 6.8mm rifle it will be beneficial for our forces and we could also find many buyers in third world countries if the weapon is good in performance and cheap in cost as compared to the western weapons.

 

[ALBY]

Looks basically like the old INSAS but with a new paint job and plastic cladding?

GK after all excalibre is an insas family member u cannot expect it having an alien look

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Just only one pic published yet.and no specifications available too..Developing a 7.62 rifle will not be a beneficial one as comparing to the development of a new insas coz imported AKs and VZs are very cheap and they are very fine.From the info given by the ofb sources it is clear that the range of the proposed rifle is just 400mts which is equal to the other rifles in 7.62 league and we couldn't expect pinpoint accuracy also from it.

Plus the we have to develop the rifle from scratch so the initial cost for infrastructure and R&D will be also high.Also we may not be able to find much buyers for the new trichy rifle due to the wide proliferation of kalashnikov derivatives due to its reliability and cheap cost.

Instead if we put all the input into designing and manufacturing of a new 5.56 or 6.8mm rifle it will be beneficial for our forces and we could also find many buyers in third world countries if the weapon is good in performance and cheap in cost as compared to the western weapons.

Specs are it use M43 and share AKM concept and with M43 its range is 400m compare to any AK 200ms accurate, The rifle use peep sights with two sights as in Insas which is better than AK iron sights, Also do note the barrel is longer as Insas hence more power and range with accuracy..

The preferred weapon must have accessories, Reliability and accurate easy to maintain yet cheap to purchase..

6.8 is a better caliber, But if a AK derived Rifle giving 400m of accuracy any army would go for it, The rifle is in tests..



VZ are not cheap, They are expensive than most AKs coz it dont share similar Gas system as AKM but a lighter which makes the rifle light, AK are too not cheaper it depends on the bargin, Few years back IA bought some 1000s Romanian AK which cost more than Insas, And now we purchased some Bulagarian AK cheaper than INSAS, It depends..

Insas price stands at 400$ per piece as fixed..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Need Help:

Can anyone make out the sight ?

Looks like a perfect fit..

OFB product ?

 

[sayareakd]

Need Help:

Can anyone make out the sight ?

Looks like a perfect fit..

OFB product ?

kunal sir i am disappointed it is not co witness sight. looks like mini or micro sight.

 

[pmaitra]

Not OFB product, at least not listed here:
Indian Ordnance Factories: Optical Devices

Could be an ACOG type scope.

 

[sayareakd]

Could be an ACOG type scope.

no ACOG, it is red dot sight. Mini or micro red dot. best thing is that it uses the rail on INSAS effectively.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

kunal sir i am disappointed it is not co witness sight. looks like mini or micro sight.

RS-M Red-dot (reflex) Sight Mini

Zeiss Z-Point Reflex Sight.

Carl Zeiss Optronics Hensoldt Reflex Sight RSA-S
[h=2]http://www.nightgalaxy.com/zeiss-z-point-red-dot-reflex-sights.html[/h]



Pure guess..

 

[Koovie]

Need Help:

Can anyone make out the sight ?

Looks like a perfect fit..

OFB product ?

ohhhh so finally regulars got gunsights o their rifles O: cant believe to see this

 

[sayareakd]

RS-M Red-dot (reflex) Sight Mini

Zeiss Z-Point Reflex Sight.

Carl Zeiss Optronics Hensoldt Reflex Sight RSA-S
[h=2]http://www.nightgalaxy.com/zeiss-z-point-red-dot-reflex-sights.html[/h]



Pure guess..

Hensoldt Carl Zeiss Optronics Reflex Sight RSA-S
$799.00
End Date: Monday Nov-28-2011 20:36:20 PST
Buy It Now for only: $799.00

http://better-scopes.info/?s=Zeiss+Hensoldt

Kunal sir it is quite costly, but good small package.

 

[SPIEZ]

I have limited knowledge. Instead of a red dot sight, wouldn't a simple night sight do ?

 

[sayareakd]

Specifications
Magnification, x 1
Dot size @ 100 yds 3,6"
Field of View (FOV) @100yds 56.4'
Parallax free at, yds 110
Min. quadr. adjustment range at 100 yds 4.2"
Transmission in the range 400-1000 nn 78%
Power supply solar cell + 3 V CR 2032
Length, in 2.5"
Weight, oz 3.53 oz.
Height, in 1.75"
Width, in 1.42"

details

With rapid-acquisition sighting systems steadily gaining favor in both military and sporting circles, the interest in such products is growing exponentially. The Z-Point Red-Dot Reflex Sight (5216989901) represents not only that highly respected manufacturer's entry into that market, but also a unique and interesting approach to the product category. The sight, originally developed for the German military, is used as an optional sighting system for the H&K MP7 PDW. The Reflex sights were designed by Hensoldt, which is owned by Carl Zeiss Optical, Inc.

This model is a non-magnifying reflex sight that does not use holographic technology nor emit a beam. The diode that produces the "red dot" is located in the unit's rear glass pane. The sight has a polymer housing with an integrated tube body of high-strength aluminum that makes for a lightweight and impact-resistant sight—as well as one that is extremely compact. The optic weighs a mere 3 1/2 ozs. and measures a scant 2 1/2" long, 1 3/4" high and 1 1/2" wide.

One innovative technical aspect of this sight is the illumination system. It utilizes a hybrid power supply that operates from both a solar cell and a conventional lithium battery, and it features an illumination regulation system that automatically adjusts the brightness of the dot. Depending on how much light is available, the built-in sensor—located in the solar panel—determines whether the sight should draw current from the battery or from the solar cell.

If the red-dot reflex sight is pointed at a bright background the dot becomes instantly brighter; if pointed at a dark background it becomes instantly dimmer. The brightness of the red dot can also be adjusted manually, but then no longer automatically adjusts until the reflex sight is reset by being restarted. Also, the red dot switches off automatically after three hours of disuse.

This sight now come in two variations - with a Picatinny Mount (model 5216989901) and a Weaver Mount (model 5216989902). It can be mounted onto a Picatinny or Weaver Rail using a spring clamp. It is recoil-proof, shock-resistant, vibration-resistant and waterproof – sealing test as per ISO 9022-8. Its casing consists of glass fiber-reinforced material with an integrated tube body of high-strength aluminum. Suitable for rifle or pistol applications.

This sight is designed to easily snap on and off any standard Picatinny rail by way of a single, spring-loaded, push-button clamp that "rocks" over the rail. The push pad on the side of the sight acts as both the on/off switch and the dot intensity regulator. One button press turns the red dot sight on, another press and hold turns the unit off. A double press and hold increases the red-dot's brightness and a triple press and hold decreases the red dot's brightness.

For testing we mounted this model on a flat-top DPMS A-15 rifle. The optic attached easily and proved simple to use. Also, the illumination regulation system worked effectively in both bright and dark surroundings. For adjustments to point of aim/impact, the Reflex sights utilize simple set screws, which fix the windage and elevation changes. Audible or mechanical clicks are not part of the design.

As Zeiss claims that the sight is waterproof, we immersed it in 110 degree water for 10 minutes and then placed it in a freezer for 10 more. There was no leakage, bubbling or -fogging.

This sight is small, light and incredibly simple to use.

 

[sayareakd]

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Hensoldt Carl Zeiss Optronics Reflex Sight RSA-S
$799.00
End Date: Monday Nov-28-2011 20:36:20 PST
Buy It Now for only: $799.00

Zeiss Hensoldt - Best Price!

Kunal sir it is quite costly, but good small package.

@Sir, i think i heard abt a news over net only that their was a deal with carl zeiss for knifes and optics, I assume it was during 2005..

I found the link..

[h=1]Indian army to get a Swiss edge[/h]
NEW DELHI: Victorinox, the makers of the legendary Swiss Army knife used by astronauts, marines, Presidents, explorers and adventurers, are keen to hawk their versatile product to the Indian Army. Victorinox began supplying the knives to the Swiss Army in the 1890s.
Victorinox regional manager Chandan Lahiri told TOI that the firm was in preliminary talks with the army to include some of its models in the standard equipment issued to combat troops.

Lahiri said, "Swiss Army knives have been traditionally considered ideal for soldiers as their use is restricted only by the user's imagination.''
Rightly described by many as a lifeline in the pocket, the knives have been at the centre of several dramatic rescue stories. They have been used to conduct emergency air-borne surgery at 30,000 ft, cut ropes during Everest expeditions, conduct life - saving amputations and to cut ice by polar explorers.


Lahiri claimed that the knives were so popular that army officers from a large number of units had bought them privately and were using them as part of their routine equipment.


Claiming that Victorinox was supplying custom-made army knives to several armies around the world, Lahiri said, "For instance, the Germans have been supplied with knives featuring the German eagle in the olive green casing in place of the Swiss emblem.''He added that depending on the outcome of talks with the Indian Army, Victorinox could also supply combat survival kits at a later stage. Targeting armed forces and adventurers, the company is expanding its product range at a swift pace.Some items to be introduced shortly include hunting knives, leather water bottles, aluminium canteens, right angle torches that can send Morse messages, snap lights, flint strikers, binoculars and a new range of battle survival kits.



Indian army to get a Swiss edge - Times Of India

 

[SPIEZ]

ALL, that way to expensive fancy stuff. IMHO, we could go for simple, reliable cheap products. please do tell the Pro's and Cons for those !

 

[sayareakd]

@Sir, i think i heard abt a news over net only that their was a deal with carl zeiss for knifes and optics, I assume it was during 2008, May be this is the product ?

Carl Zeiss signs licensing agreement – first optics already delivered

23:00 GMT, March 31, 2010 Carl Zeiss Optronics GmbH, the defense wing of the Carl Zeiss Group, has signed a licensing agreement with Indian company Optic Electronic (India) Private Limited in New Delhi for the production of red dot sights. The company had already ordered 15,000 red dot sights from the traditional German company for Indian armed forces.

"We impressed the Indian military with the quality of our products and expect to produce up to 400,000 red dot sights through the licensed production in India," says Ralf Klädtke, President and CEO of Carl Zeiss Optronics.

Currently, experts from Carl Zeiss are training Indian specialists in Wetzlar to monitor production in the future. Red dot sights from Carl Zeiss are standard optics on the G36 rifles used by the German Army. The cooperation with Carl Zeiss was initiated by the Indian armed forces.

defence.professionals | defpro.com

this company OPTIC ELECTRONIC (INDIA) PVT. LIMITED

 

[SPIEZ]

Here's another link of the product

Welcome to Carl Zeiss Optical, Inc.

The price seems to be lowered $639.
Now optics become more costlier than a gun !