India's Air Defense System and its Capabilities

[ashicjose]

i thought rocket engines not need air

 

[HeinzGud]

i thought rocket engines not need air

Those are ramjet inlet ducts to be more precise!

2. 1SB4M CW monopulse semi-active homing seeker with Doppler closure rate capability
4. 3E27 CW radio two channel proximity fuse (30 m nominal radius)
6. 3N12 57 kg blast-fragmention warhead
8. 1SB6M Autopilot
10. Ramjet intake ducts
12. 9D16K sustainer solid gas generator charge (67 kg LK-6TM reducing propellant)
14. Frangible seals
16. Boost stage solid propellant charge (172 kg VIK-2 propellant)
18. Exhaust nozzle
20. Cruciform tailfins
21. Cruciform wing

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-2K12-Kvadrat.html

 

[ashicjose]

so its a two stage.
first rocket engine then ramjet

 

[Kunal Biswas]

French APCs didn't have any problem getting through the deserts of Iraq. They were faster than the tracked vehicles.

In Iraq French used mostly roads and infrastructural made by Iraqis and Semi desert, Where as American used armored thrust from Saudi desert which is similar to thar, US armored vehicles in desert were tracked M1 & Bradly, Where as Marines from Basra used LAV and M1..

Tracks are better for mud and loose ground. It is really a matter of weight, wheels can only go to a certian limit while tracks can handle far more

Indeed it is..

 

[blueblood]

In Iraq French used mostly roads and infrastructural made by Iraqis and Semi desert, Where as American used armored thrust from Saudi desert which is similar to thar, US armored vehicles in desert were tracked M1 & Bradly, Where as Marines from Basra used LAV and M1..



Indeed it is..

Sand in Thar is finer than the one in Saudi or Iraq just like Sinai.

 

[bhramos]

Is it Tunguska Air Defence Vehicle.........?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Is it Tunguska Air Defence Vehicle.........?

That is SA-6 fire control radar..

The pic in the post is tungushka M1

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Updated ZU-23-TWIN

 

[Twinblade]

French APCs didn't have any problem getting through the deserts of Iraq. They were faster than the tracked vehicles. As long as there is solid surface to grab onto, wheeled will always be faster. Tracks are better for mud and loose ground. It is really a matter of weight, wheels can only go to a certian limit while tracks can handle far more

Iraq is a "rocky" desert,

whereas Thar is a sandy desert.

Wheeled APC's are going to have a tough time there.

 

[HeinzGud]

This is Libyan desert.........

This is deserts at Al alameine

The tanks in desert in WW2

Tracked vehicle will go virtually anywhere they wanna go!

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Does the IA have any plan of buying the above guns ?

 

[sayareakd]

Does the IA have any plan of buying the above guns ?

We have lots of these outdated guys, this is L&T upgrade of this gun.

here is more info on Bofors 40 mm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors_40_mm

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

We have lots of these outdated guys, this is L&T upgrade of this gun.

here is more info on Bofors 40 mm

Bofors 40 mm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yeah Saya, I want to know whether we have the upgraded ones or are we still using the old ones..............

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Yeah Saya, I want to know whether we have the upgraded ones or are we still using the old ones..............

No, we are using the older once, there is probability that we may go for 35mm sky shield AAA and licence produce them rather update 40mm L70..

 

[ajay_ijn]

I was just thinking about how long it took IAF & IA to decide upon SAM Systems when they knew Akash would be delayed. SPYDER & Tunguska was for short range and nothing was thought or purchased for medium & long range. only recently there was this talk of Barak-2 Airforce version.

We give so much importance to maintain squadron levels, getting modern fighters and so less concern for replacing obsolete russian SAM Systems? why?

After looking at Gulf war, US making a mincemeat of Russian origin SAM Systems, Still we continued to use SA-3, SA-6 with few upgrades here and there for two decades as our primary SAM System, and even after 1999 Kargil.

What about nuclear facilities (trombay), petroleum storage (gujarat), metropolis? how susceptible to surprise strike like Israel made on Osirak. granted Israel is probably the most aggressive in the world but i wouldn't underestimate the F-16As int the hands PAF Pilots, which they had since last twenty years. Its possible for them to fly low, gaps in radar coverage to reach the targets, our alerted fighters may be able to intercept them after they neutralized the targets but then the damage has been done.

at this time, a good combination of point defence SAM and Medium Range/Long Range would be good solution, atleast protecting highly sensitive locations like nuclear installations.

India does has a very large airspace, it may be nearly impossible to cover every single sqkm with excellent radar coverage. Granted we have purchased new radars from Israel, really good ones like Greenpine and those aerostat ones. But enemy will always be looking to avoid them and penetrate the airspace which is not well covered by these radars and at lower altitudes.

IN Destroyers/Frigates have much better protection with Barak & Shitl compared to Soviet era SA-3/SA-6.

272 Su-30MKI, 126 Rafales are very much state of art and one of the best in their category but whats the use if our air defence fails to alert them within time. Its left to SAM Systems to defend. Atleast they will deter the enemy and make them think twice before targeting strategic locations.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Indian army Air defense is very new, And youngest in IA..

There are plans to mordanise it, though it will tank time, SA-6 are mordanised with improved seeker and Flair so does engagement software and tracking system, there are 100 system of SA-6 in Indian Army AD, And newer Akash will supplement these numbers, Beside Akash IA also have newer Hawk SAM in target so does newer BUK..

Where as IAF have SA-3 which will be replaced by AKASH..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[ajay_ijn]

Indian army Air defense is very new, And youngest in IA..

There are plans to mordanise it, though it will tank time, SA-6 are mordanised with improved seeker and Flair so does engagement software and tracking system, there are 100 system of SA-6 in Indian Army AD, And newer Akash will supplement these numbers, Beside Akash IA also have newer Hawk SAM in target so does newer BUK..

Where as IAF have SA-3 which will be replaced by AKASH..

Which Hawk SAM? The old US one?. IA has the buk missile system? when did we order that. I thought we have only Tunguska till now.