Indian Special Forces

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

The problem is the guys at the top and the vast majority of the populace believe all is well and are getting high on their own supply of copium.

i bet that had anyone asked the Govt of India or average Indian defence ‘expert’/fan on 25/11/2008 if NSG were world class/up to scratch you’d have heard nothing but they are the best of the best etc

to fix something you first need to accept it’s broken, there’s almost no discourse at the top about the reality and most at the bottom are of the similar mindset. One day india will have to use SFs to achieve something strategically relevant, only after this fails will there be change. Tactical screw ups that happen consistently don’t seem sufficient to wake up the so called leadership.

Bro that is the exact reason why i dont share about Balakot and what happened the next day.

The shocking reality wont be accepted by both the countries .

But sach toh wohi rahega jo he.

So this is a clear case of what happens wheb textbooks are changed..kida grow up with a false sense of achievement and bravado.

No self assessment ..no learnings.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

To give a short reply -
1. You are definately doubting Maj. Jacob's credintial if you are not taking a 9 PARA SF guy's opinion seriously...someone who have had regularly trained with their Western counterparts.

2. Your next part is about equipment, which i agree, so no comments.

3. Do not compare Afghanistan with Kashmir. I can go to Kashmir and come back alive. I cant guarantee the same in Afghanistan.

4. Im not awawre of Djibouti and Phil soldiers training here. But our most common Students are from US. They complete courses at OTA, CIJWS, HAWS...atleast these 3 i know.

Bro you are so brainwashed by Major Jacob yaar.

I respect him for his service.

But you can follow better role models bro.

What are you saying when you say he says Seals are nothing because they drink Bisleri..Man who is he?

Do seals have a statue of Major Jacob and salute it day and night or what?

If you go to seals and ask the same question.. they would say 10 same insulting things about Indian sf like they dont have basic training and flag each other bla bla.

And it hardly matters bro...Does it matter to you what people think about you so much?

Major Jacob is a loose talker.He can be wrong he is only a human.

Please dont make him a GOD..He had a divorce and also retired from the Army at a not so senior rank which is Major.

A jawan who does well can retire at a honorary rank of Capt.


This is a fact..I am not demeaning him but he has his short falls bro.

We can respect him for his service and my salute to him for not having any casualties in his team.

But bro GOD..like what he says is so important to u?That u wont judge if he is right or wrong


I seriously hope you are a more mature human than that in life.

Rest is your choice..but dont bring your bible aka Major jacob in every argument.

 

[The Shrike]

CI/CT is a major aspect. Its a major part of unconventional warfare.
Anyway, you want other major type of operations ? - 1971 Vehicle borne raids 80 kms deep inside Pakistan .
- Rescue mission of 123 Indian soldiers trapped by 5000 RUF Rebels
- NSG/MARCOS ka Mumbai raids
- Maldivies Govt. rescue
- Raids inside Pakistan
-Direct action in Kargil
- Largest ever Airdrop in the World (Tangail Airdrop)

Bahut hain aise.

Woh British logo ne 26 Hostages ko bachaya koi Iranian Embassy se. Woh unhone kardiya Famous. 100 Documentaries/10 Books. Paisa kamaye, popularity mili.
Idhar NSG/MARCOS ne 800+ rescue kiya by covering 1000+ rooms. Uska toh fanboys mein kuch hua hee nahi. Yes...25 Special forces from across the world approached NSG for training. But media/fanboyism nahi hua naa? Cause thats all what matters.

Woh British logo ne apne 5 soldiers rescue kiye koi local gunda se, in Sierra Leone. West Side Boys naam ka koi gang se. Woh toh bhai...World Famous ho Gaya!

Leken jab Revolutionary United Front ke 5000 troops advance karne lage...toh yeh British toh town evacuate karke bhage. Apne Gorkha ke 123 troops nahi bhage....ended up getting surrounded. SAS toh tha udhar. Ungli choos rahe the.
Phir finally Baap toh baap hota hain. PARA SF ko deploy karna padha to Sierra Leone. the rest is history.

Aur about Major Jacob. Bisleri wala toh comedy hain hee. One more thing that shocked me. they dont walk during operations. Anything over 7 kms, they use Hepters. Thats pathetic. And woh ek apna MARCOS bhi thaa jo SEALs ka course easily top kiya tha? I forgot his name...

"Largest ever Airdrop in the World (Tangail Airdrop)" - wait what?

 

[rohit b3]

"Largest ever Airdrop in the World (Tangail Airdrop)" - wait what?

post WW2. Isnt the Tangail airdrop the largest ever?

 

[The Shrike]

This thread is getting retarded every day but it seems it's that period of month were it's the most worst of all jai ho,criticism all etc

Heavy flow days are the worst.

 

[rohit b3]

Bro you are so brainwashed by Major Jacob yaar.

I respect him for his service.

But you can follow better role models bro.

What are you saying when you say he says Seals are nothing because they drink Bisleri..Man who is he?

Do seals have a statue of Major Jacob and salute it day and night or what?

If you go to seals and ask the same question.. they would say 10 same insulting things about Indian sf like they dont have basic training and flag each other bla bla.

And it hardly matters bro...Does it matter to you what people think about you so much?

Major Jacob is a loose talker.He can be wrong he is only a human.

Please dont make him a GOD..He had a divorce and also retired from the Army at a not so senior rank which is Major.

A jawan who does well can retire at a honorary rank of Capt.


This is a fact..I am not demeaning him but he has his short falls bro.

We can respect him for his service and my salute to him for not having any casualties in his team.

But bro GOD..like what he says is so important to u?That u wont judge if he is right or wrong


I seriously hope you are a more mature human than that in life.

Rest is your choice..but dont bring your bible aka Major jacob in every argument.

I have been researching military and Special forces 10 years before Major Jacob gave that interview. I have some friends in the army as well. Major Jacob just confirmed the existing knowledge i had on the matter.
About US Special forces, one thing i have noticed or heard is...atleast they are very humble on ground...unlike their British counterparts .

 

[vidhwanshak]

Bro that is the exact reason why i dont share about Balakot and what happened the next day.

The shocking reality wont be accepted by both the countries .

But sach toh wohi rahega jo he.

So this is a clear case of what happens wheb textbooks are changed..kida grow up with a false sense of achievement and bravado.

No self assessment ..no learnings.

yaar likhte hi kyu ho jab batana nahi hota??

you just act like elite predators.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

I have been researching military and Special forces 10 years before Major Jacob gave that interview. I have some friends in the army as well. Major Jacob just confirmed the existing knowledge i had on the matter.

That seals are good for nothing bisleri drinking idiots.

aur

ek bandook hoti he..usmi goli hoti he..woh chalni chahiye..fir woh ched karti he

Good

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

yaar likhte hi kyu ho jab batana nahi hota??

you just act like elite predators.

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Bhai mereko galiya nhi sunni idher.

Itna bol deta hu..what India and Pakistan both say is totally wrong and incorrect.

Yes a F16 went down and so went a mig 21...but who did it..how it happend.

That i wont share.

 

[vidhwanshak]

Bhai mereko galiya nhi sunni idher.

Itna bol deta hu..what India and Pakistan both say is totally wrong and incorrect.

Yes a F16 went down and so went a mig 21...but who did it..how it happend.

That i wont share.

yaar kitna hi sunnoge?
mujhe bhi shuru me bhot sunane ki milli thi when I criticised the officers in poonch encounter where we lost 9 soldiers wo bhi hawa me.
Galwan me bhi suanane ko milli thi jab maine apni side ki story ko galat batya.

kya hi fark padta hai. iss thread pe mods nahi aate. aap bas itmenaan se likho padhnnge sab.

 

[vidhwanshak]

yaar kitna hi sunnoge?
mujhe bhi shuru me bhot sunane ki milli thi when I criticised the officers in poonch encounter where we lost 9 soldiers wo bhi hawa me.
Galwan me bhi suanane ko milli thi jab maine apni side ki story ko galat batya.

kya hi fark padta hai. iss thread pe mods nahi aate. aap bas itmenaan se likho padhnnge sab.

I called the CO of that unit which was leading the poonch encounter a piece of trash for loosing 9 soldiers without even killing a single jihadi.

members paraded me a lot. gaaliya bhar ke milli lekin likhne me to kuch nahi jaata naa.

aap please bataao yaar janana hai mujhe aapki side ki story.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

yaar kitna hi sunnoge?
mujhe bhi shuru me bhot sunane ki milli thi when I criticised the officers in poonch encounter where we lost 9 soldiers wo bhi hawa me.
Galwan me bhi suanane ko milli thi jab maine apni side ki story ko galat batya.

kya hi fark padta hai. iss thread pe mods nahi aate. aap bas itmenaan se likho padhnnge sab.

Bhai bas guess karlo meine kaafi likh dia he..

When history is rewritten to favour false narrative it lays down a highway of future idiots to cruise.

That will be all from my side.

 

[rohit b3]

That seals are good for nothing bisleri drinking idiots.

aur

ek bandook hoti he..usmi goli hoti he..woh chalni chahiye..fir woh ched karti he

Good

bhai, ek aisa bisleri bottle incident se impression/opinion nahi ban jaati. They have had lots of joint trainings together to come to a certain conclusion .
Anyway chodo bhai...i was wondering why Indian infantry and SOF arent recognized enough on social media by westerners(who sadly run them)....but apne logo mein hee itna low self esteem bhari hain........cant blame them.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

bhai, ek aisa bisleri bottle incident se impression/opinion nahi ban jaati. They have had lots of joint trainings together to come to a certain conclusion .
Anyway chodo bhai...i was wondering why Indian infantry and SOF arent recognized enough on social media by westerners(who sadly run them)....but apne logo mein hee itna low self esteem bhari hain........cant blame them.

bhai low self esteem?

khud hi video dekh le bhai transition wali

Encounters ki clips dekh ke recent wali


Baki jaisa apko thik lage

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

aap please bataao yaar janana hai mujhe aapki side ki story.

In Air force circles its well known what happened so if you know anyone please ask.

I know for a fact that even reporters know but its better such stories are not told.

Pakis have also hidden it..even a death at their side which we were lucky didnt happen at our end minus the helicopter shooting incident in shear panic.

Atleast 5 different people have told me this..2 were ex TACDE.

 

[rohit b3]

bhai low self esteem?

khud hi video dekh le bhai transition wali

Encounters ki clips dekh ke recent wali


Baki jaisa apko thik lage

transition wali dekhi. I was disappointed, i agree. But we dont know the full story of that video . Maybe they are new recruits? Kal hee probation khatam kiya aur PARA SF ka training chalu kiya? Or maybe the shooting range was after a 10 kms BOC?
Just saying we are not sure.

My point of view is - and i repeat it again - Results . Which unit is more successful ?

Hamara ek member har bathe mein Western units ka video share kar dete hain. Fast Fast dhadadhad room clearing ho raha hain. Looks so damn cool, naa? But practically, take a situation like 26/11.....is something like that possible?

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

transition wali dekhi. I was disappointed, i agree. But we dont know the full story of that video . Maybe they are new recruits? Kal hee probation khatam kiya aur PARA SF ka training chalu kiya? Or maybe the shooting range was after a 10 kms BOC?
Just saying we are not sure.

My point of view is - and i repeat it again - Results . Which unit is more successful ?

Hamara ek member har bathe mein Western units ka video share kar dete hain. Fast Fast dhadadhad room clearing ho raha hain. Looks so damn cool, naa? But practically, take a situation like 26/11.....is something like that possible?

Ok fair enough

Waise 10 years old NDTV documentary he Nahan k uper..usme bhi same transition he.

Infantry ko toh pistol grip karna nhi ata..pics google pe he.

But i am ok to assume and give a benefit of doubt.

 

[The Shrike]

post WW2. Isnt the Tangail airdrop the largest ever?

Why add that caveat at all?
Coincidentally I watched A bridge too far for the first time just the other day .

 

[rohit b3]

Ok fair enough

Waise 10 years old NDTV documentary he Nahan k uper..usme bhi same transition he.

Infantry ko toh pistol grip karna nhi ata..pics google pe he.

But i am ok to assume and give a benefit of doubt.

pistol pakadna nahi aata.....but phir 18,000 ft pein Kargil jitti kaisi hain? 22,000 ft mein..Siachen jitti kaisi hain? yeh jo apne fanboys US/Uk ki chaathe rehete hain naa......unko bolo kuch British troops ko Kargil ke heights mein deploy karne ko.
Hypoxia suna hain? They will start fainting and if not given medical attention , could even die.

Apna infantry temperature ko tackle karke, lack of oxygen ko tackle karke, terrain and topography ko tackle karke...LAST mein..pistol grip karke, thoke , kargil bhi leke aate hain.

 

[Love Charger]

This is just mashallah