Indian Special Forces

[Op Kahuta]

Ek bhi nahi hai, raat ko lagaya ho to subah bhi toh honi chahiye na, kabhi dekha hai?

Mtlb raat mein photos aur videos nhi bn skte agar para quad nods ke sath op kar rhi hai par dinn mein jarur photo milenge. Thoda btaye aise early morning videos jisme aapne aise dekha ho

 

[abingdonboy]

Kek doesn't para sf go in small units without much support in op as said by Captain Albert louis, Major Vivek Jacob , Major Avinash Sahani and create much bigger impact British SAS are much better than your American counterparts hyped by media and west fools like you tactical disadvantage kek why not say their mechanism failed of constant support and they didn't have much training to get out of such situations. Regarding equipment yup if you don't have you can't train . Comparing Indian SSBN to US they are technologically much advance in that field will take time for IN decades.

What Indian sf dreams hmm You are really Childish talks no sf dreams other they do what is given can see your Inferiority complex our enemies are Chinks and porkies and yeah if you dream of America invading India no amount of equipment can help you outside your motherland . Andhbhakt kon hai Vietnam , Afghanistan , Syria , Iraq , Yemen did they meet their goal nope .

Believe what you want buddy, it makes no difference to me.

to fix a problem the first step is recognising there is one but according to you all is fine. Indian SF are mythical creatures that can achieve all Western SF can do without the luxuries of support, decent equipment or training.

how lucky india is to be blessed by such supermen

 

[Mikel]

A few with garud won’t change anything, unless they’re seen in active combat I doubt about their night fighting capabilities. I’m yet to see Para SF guys using any night vision equipment during night.

I think this has been mentioned before but Para SF don't work alone in the valley. They are attached with RR units, who are the ones who prefer using flood lights. If you listen to ex-SF soldiers they do talk about night ops along the LOC.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Mtlb raat mein photos aur videos nhi bn skte agar para quad nods ke sath op kar rhi hai par dinn mein jarur photo milenge. Thoda btaye aise early morning videos jisme aapne aise dekha ho

I said that journos are there in night as well as morning to click pics, never seen any nightvision equipment with them during combat, can find plenty pics of other countries’ spec ops units during active combat having night vision equipment. Our guys don’t even have monoculars/bioculars during combat, they wait for the morning to start the op.

 

[Pig benis on sushy]

Believe what you want buddy, it makes no difference to me.

to fix a problem the first step is recognising there is one but according to you all is fine. Indian SF are mythical creatures that can achieve all Western SF can do without the luxuries of support, decent equipment or training.

how lucky india is to be blessed by such supermen

Kek you still wanna say ill equipped everyone knows that no one said mythical creatures plz show . Yes what Avinash Sahani sir said we are best in training, tactics, physique but not well equipped as needed .

 

[Mikel]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xDlCN9cCzXc?&ab_channel=CrownAnimals

Here Captain Albert Louis mentions their preference for doing operations at night. Now if they don't use any equipment for that then they really are superhumans
Or he could be exaggerating.

 

[Op Kahuta]

I said that journos are there in night as well as morning to click pics, never seen any nightvision equipment dpwith them during combat, can find plenty pics of other countries’ spec ops units during sctive combat having night vision equipment. Our guys don’t even have monoculars/bioculars during combat, they wait for the morning to start the op.

Oh bhai RR has been spotted with nods during nighttime and Para too have been spotted with nods many times in the valley. Ab ye koi logic hua ki journo ne photo nhi khiche unke night time mein toh nods hai hi nhi

US SF- we own the night

PARA SF- night is approaching, bring out the generators and floodlights, we will resume in the morning.

Bhai kuch jyada nhi ulta sidha bol rhe ho aap. Itna hi hai kharab toh khud jaake yogdan do na fight mein. Khud military leader bano aur kranti la do agar itna hmara halat kharab hai

 

[abingdonboy]

Kek you still wanna say ill equipped everyone knows that no one said mythical creatures plz show . Yes what Avinash Sahani sir said we are best in training, tactics, physique but not well equipped as needed .

I’ll refer you back to my comment- training comes from equipment also. Cannot claim to be best in training if you don’t have even basic equipment to hand. Can’t develop good tactics without specialisation

SFs are meant to have tactical edges through superior tactics, equipment and human capital, PARA SF are tying their hands behind their back on every op which leads to a cumulative downgrade in performance.

Indian SF don’t even have JTACs, this is something Western SF have had a concept of for decades

training
Equipment
Mandate
Doctrine

all of it feeds from another and informs another. This isn’t top trumps.

 

[India Super Power]

Point is we even lagged in basics pc helmets etc
Now these are getting sorted atleast in marcos and garuds I am definitely sure para sf will also follow
Even armasen tactical vest along with bone conducting earphones and some sort if sdr is in trails when it's complete we can see improvements in para sf
Coming to night fighting capabilities I have heard para sf doing it
I guess they have considerable amount of monotubes

 

[Op Kahuta]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xDlCN9cCzXc?&ab_channel=CrownAnimals

Here Captain Albert Louis mentions their preference for doing operations at night. Now if they don't use any equipment for that then they really are superhumans
Or he could be exaggerating.

Kyu ye video share kiya tu they don't have nods. Andhbhakt mt bno aur maano ki we are as ill equipped as African militia. That vet is also wrong and it's why Indian SF is still mediocre

 

[vidhwanshak]

people in this thread have literally gone bonkers.

I agree that in this decade Indian SF hasn't done any major operations except the surgical strikes of 2016 but that doesn't mean they are poorly trained or lack discipline. Please for god's sake stop equating gears and training.
Indian SF clearly fulfills the role for which it was raised. They have PROVED their mettle, be it the surgical strikes or August 2020 operations against China.

Strikes deep inside the enemy territory require political will. And those operators regularly train for these types of operations. So, saying PARA SF can't do ops which GB of US can do is very funny. They have done this in SL, Maldives, Sierra Leone, Myanmar. And this doesn't include ops against Pakistan

 

[SGOperative]

Point is we even lagged in basics pc helmets etc
Now these are getting sorted atleast in marcos and garuds I am definitely sure para sf will also follow
Even armasen tactical vest along with bone conducting earphones and some sort if sdr is in trails when it's complete we can see improvements in para sf
Coming to night fighting capabilities I have heard para sf doing it
I guess they have considerable amount of monotubes

If you read the Shiv Aroors book, alot of ops drag to night and Para SF uses the Nods. The issue which we find is that their Nods are old and they could use newer ones.

 

[SGOperative]

Indian SF don’t even have JTACs

This role has been given to Garuds

 

[Dharmic_Crusader]

Para SF must Have God-Tier secrecy skills to be able to hide the fact that they have NVG's worth a damn, to conduct night-time operations... which makes no fucking sense as to why they would need to keep something like this secret.... as it is just staple equipment by now and cant actually be considered gucci.

Meanwhile, you have Garud operatives who act like teenagers whenever they get the chance... taking pictures of themselves in every pose known to mankind.

 

[Pig benis on sushy]

I’ll refer you back to my comment- training comes from equipment also. Cannot claim to be best in training if you don’t have even basic equipment to hand. Can’t develop good tactics without specialisation

SFs are meant to have tactical edges through superior tactics, equipment and human capital, PARA SF are tying their hands behind their back on every op which leads to a cumulative downgrade in performance.

Indian SF don’t even have JTACs, this is something Western SF have had a concept of for decades

training
Equipment
Mandate
Doctrine

all of it feeds from another and informs another. This isn’t top trumps.

Yes other than nvg , jugaad on comms (SDR) or Motorola device for communication which is must we don't have proper comms but yeah we fill that gap now night fighting capability is what we lack much . Loc pe kahe ka JTAC we use thermobaric bomb for roasting pigs don't know if they use similar to JTAC in exercises . We are not USA best we can do is surgicals strikes hope you know Air traffic rules regarding loc .

 

[Pig benis on sushy]

Para SF must Have God-Tier secrecy skills to be able to hide the fact that they have NVG's worth a damn, to conduct night-time operations... which makes no fucking sense as to why they would need to keep something like this secret.... as it is just staple equipment by now and cant actually be considered gucci.

Meanwhile, you have Garud operatives who act like teenagers whenever they get the chance... taking pictures of themselves in every pose known to mankind.

Please don't hinder in between

 

[abingdonboy]

Point is we even lagged in basics pc helmets etc
Now these are getting sorted atleast in marcos and garuds I am definitely sure para sf will also follow
Even armasen tactical vest along with bone conducting earphones and some sort if sdr is in trails when it's complete we can see improvements in para sf
Coming to night fighting capabilities I have heard para sf doing it
I guess they have considerable amount of monotubes

Don’t get your hopes up about PARA SF, they have grown far too large and all of the issues critiques feared would happen when they started converting airborne to SF battalions has happened- a lack of standardisation across training and equipment, conventional leadership nominally commanding ‘SF’ units etc etc.

PARA SF’s numbers are comparable to the US Green berets with maybe 5% of the budget but Green berets are a global force that maintain a presence in every continent in the world barring Antarctica

I’ve said plenty of times now that PARA SF should be disbanded- all SF battalions converted into airborne units and then a dedicated SF regiment formed with centralised powers and standards so they can do it right from the beginning. Maybe a battalion size MAX.

They only changed the name of the PARA units not the mandates, they are basically elite infantry at this point with a huge variety in capabilities even intra-unit.

 

[Op Kahuta]

Don’t get your hopes up about PARA SF, they have grown far too large and all of the issues critiques feared would happen when they started converting airborne to SF battalions has happened- a lack of standardisation across training and equipment, conventional leadership nominally commanding ‘SF’ units etc etc.

PARA SF’s numbers are comparable to the US Green berets with maybe 5% of the budget but Green berets are a global force that maintain a presence in every continent in the world barring Antarctica

I’ve said plenty of times now that PARA SF should be disbanded- all SF battalions converted into airborne units and then a dedicated SF regiment formed with centralised powers and standards so they can do it right from the beginning. Maybe a battalion size MAX.

They only changed the name of the PARA units not the mandates, they are basically elite infantry at this point with a huge variety in capabilities even intra-unit.

I have to ask why you didn't apply to enlist? You obviously would be gem to our military

 

[SGOperative]

Don’t get your hopes up about PARA SF, they have grown far too large and all of the issues critiques feared would happen when they started converting airborne to SF battalions has happened- a lack of standardisation across training and equipment, conventional leadership nominally commanding ‘SF’ units etc etc.

PARA SF’s numbers are comparable to the US Green berets with maybe 5% of the budget but Green berets are a global force that maintain a presence in every continent in the world barring Antarctica

I’ve said plenty of times now that PARA SF should be disbanded- all SF battalions converted into airborne units and then a dedicated SF regiment formed with centralised powers and standards so they can do it right from the beginning. Maybe a battalion size MAX.

They only changed the name of the PARA units not the mandates, they are basically elite infantry at this point with a huge variety in capabilities even intra-unit.

Thanx for some valid point after the complete roller coster of this thread. I think we might want to go back to the times of 3 or 4 SF Battalions for the Conventional war roles. 1 Battalion would be too small size for a army of our size.

 

[India Super Power]

Don’t get your hopes up about PARA SF, they have grown far too large and all of the issues critiques feared would happen when they started converting airborne to SF battalions has happened- a lack of standardisation across training and equipment, conventional leadership nominally commanding ‘SF’ units etc etc.

PARA SF’s numbers are comparable to the US Green berets with maybe 5% of the budget but Green berets are a global force that maintain a presence in every continent in the world barring Antarctica

I’ve said plenty of times now that PARA SF should be disbanded- all SF battalions converted into airborne units and then a dedicated SF regiment formed with centralised powers and standards so they can do it right from the beginning. Maybe a battalion size MAX.

They only changed the name of the PARA units not the mandates, they are basically elite infantry at this point with a huge variety in capabilities even intra-unit.

I didn't say anything related to my hopes on para sf
Yes their equipment procurement is poor but nowhere their ops
The kind of ops they have done might not be done by many European nations with very good equipments excluding us uk french german polish
So our ops speak a lot about our capability