Indian Special Forces

[fire starter]

 

[Scramjet]

Sach hai sarr, 1 archers/vikas was meant to be like SG.....but aajkal mess meinmess means zero combat in this context

 

[ManhattanProject]

Take a look at this video from 0:20 onwards you can see a huge pile of firearms and some men in black with brownish helmets and plate carriers, some guys are claiming they are NSG or SG members which I doubt. IMO they might be the ITBP guys or the GARUDs. They might even be Indians who work for private security firms too but this too may be unlikely

Nothing special just vanilla Ak rifles.

 

[fire starter]

Sach hai sarr, 1 archers/vikas was meant to be like SG.....but aajkal mess meinmess means zero combat in this context

According to him establishment 22 is a separate organization and SFF & SG are part of it.

Though he refused to further reveal about other units which are also part of it.

 

[abingdonboy]

Take a look at this video from 0:20 onwards you can see a huge pile of firearms and some men in black with brownish helmets and plate carriers, some guys are claiming they are NSG or SG members which I doubt. IMO they might be the ITBP guys or the GARUDs. They might even be Indians who work for private security firms too but this too may be unlikely

they are ITBP

100 ITBP personnel were in Afghanistan prior to today

 

[abingdonboy]

+ I’m pretty sure there were SG inside Afghanistan but they were evacuated in the C-17 that landed in Kabul yesterday and returned to Delhi with zero press coverage

I’ve written in the Afghanistan thread here that it was weird that no coverage came from that one when the Yeman/Iraq airlifts in recent years got headline media attention.

Aside from a C17 landing in Kabul and returning to Delhi there was no information. On who was onboard.

I saw a report saying 40 embassy staff were onboard, considering 1 USAF C17 took out 800 people yesterday it’s a bit suspect.

 

[rkhanna]

According to him establishment 22 is a separate organization and SFF & SG are part of it.

Though he refused to further reveal about other units which are also part of it.

Saying it again

Establishment 22 is not a unit. It's the nick name of SFF. It comes from 22 Mountain which was the parent unit of the first brigadier of SFF.

SG was put under the SFF to avoid it being part of official army orbat and that automatically put it under RAW and the CS. SG has nothing to do with the SFF otherwise. Though some infrastructure is shared.

 

[Spadex]

HK416 allegedly left behind at the US Embassy in Kabul. All the equipments are going towards pakistan as I write it. We may see a boost in equipment with SSGs

 

[notaname]

I saw a report saying 40 embassy staff were onboard, considering 1 USAF C17 took out 800 people yesterday it’s a bit suspect

They are saying embassy staff couldn't reach the airport that's why they were not able to evacuate them in first flight.
And then NSA contacted US NSA and other countries (Qatar and Iran) then they were able to leave our embassy and reach airport and another flight was arranged for them.

 

[Scramjet]

Ive made a post on SG, do check it out, corrections/suggestions are welcome

 

[FalconSlayers]

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Do you really think that they’ll leave a 65000 USD GPNVG-18, 2000 USD Helmet setup and 5000 USD Rifle setup like this?

 

[Tactical Doge]

Do you really think that they’ll leave a 65000 USD GPNVG-18, 2000 USD Helmet setup and 5000 USD Rifle setup like this?

Knowing Americans

I would have to say yes

 

[FalconSlayers]

Knowing Americans

I would have to say yes

Is it even confirmed? I don’t think so. It is not some cheap stuff, it costs nearly a 1 BHK flat in Chandigarh.

 

[Hellfire]

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Who are these guys inside IAF C-17 in Kabul

ITBP Embassy protection det.

 

[Scramjet]

Is it even confirmed? I don’t think so. It is not some cheap stuff, it costs nearly a 1 BHK flat in Chandigarh.

24STS elements are still there afaik and yes since this is a tier 1 operator kit, i guess it most likely belongs to them

 

[Hellfire]

They are saying embassy staff couldn't reach the airport that's why they were not able to evacuate them in first flight.
And then NSA contacted US NSA and other countries (Qatar and Iran) then they were able to leave our embassy and reach airport and another flight was arranged for them.

Incorrect news. For a few weeks now, 81 Sqn AF has been carrying out regular sorties and evacuation of all 'non-essential' personnel was carried out in addition to those Indians who were in touch with the embassy and were willing to travel back.

But average numbers which came back were 30-40 per flight. So, more of equipment and other paraphrenalia were removed.

Coordination with US and others took place as US took the lead in securing the airfield. But it does not mean that there were no "boots on ground" for India too.

All evacuations like these through hostile territories are done under a security 'overwatch' and escort. The same was not composed of personnel who were seen on aircraft aka the ITBP. But there were teams out there securing the evacuation route.

The "delay" took place primarily due to the abandoning of their posts by the staff at airport which caused chaos and potential security risk.

 

[Tactical Doge]

Is it even confirmed? I don’t think so. It is not some cheap stuff, it costs nearly a 1 BHK flat in Chandigarh.

I don't know whether it's confirmed
Afghan Special forces have Dual tube NVGs and Helmet mounted TIs
Since Taliban took over the government, guess what else is in the government, the NDS, their foreign intelligence agency, and all of NDS's assets around the globe is currently under Taliban government, all of the intelligence apparatus

Would be extremely easy for Pakis to get some pals to run few errands in Kashmir for 72 hoors, with all the equipment of ANDSF special forces, we can see more effective terror plans (that is once they manage to break through AIOS in LoC)

Absolute shame on our government even the Afg scenario doesn't make them dish out 100 billion at least a year on Defence budget



On a different note
@Hellfire Ji
Have the Para ever encountered foreign tangoes with dual tube NVGs or perhaps even quad tube???
I have seen pictures of passive Night vision aiming sights and Monoculars on M4s on Tangoes, almost all of them were captured American stuff smuggled in, if that can be smuggled through Pakiland why not Dual/quad tubes?

 

[FalconSlayers]

I don't know whether it's confirmed
Afghan Special forces have Dual tube NVGs and Helmet mounted TIs
Since Taliban took over the government, guess what else is in the government, the NDS, their foreign intelligence agency, and all of NDS's assets around the globe is currently under Taliban government, all of the intelligence apparatus

Would be extremely easy for Pakis to get some pals to run few errands in Kashmir for 72 hoors, with all the equipment of ANDSF special forces, we can see more effective terror plans (that is once they manage to break through AIOS in LoC)

Absolute shame on our government even the Afg scenario doesn't make them dish out 100 billion at least a year on Defence budget



On a different note
@Hellfire Ji
Have the Para ever encountered foreign tangoes with dual tube NVGs or perhaps even quad tube???
I have seen pictures of passive Night vision aiming sights and Monoculars on M4s on Tangoes, almost all of them were captured American stuff smuggled in, if that can be smuggled through Pakiland why not Dual/quad tubes?

Have you ever Seen Indian Army using ATN sights? Maybe the captured Stuff is sent for reverse engineering, as so Many ATN sights have been captured, none seen in use with us, and I don’t think getting Nods and running them is easy, requires training.

 

[Hellfire]

being part of official army orbat and that automatically put it under RAW and the CS. SG has nothing to do with the SFF otherwise. Though some infrastructure is shared.

Adding on: SG is not exactly even an 'organization' ...... as far as the Charlie team is concerned. The ones who are not seen, known of or ever acknowledged. Alpha and Bravo Teams are becoming more apparent as the scramble for 'combat exposure' between Commanders is causing all SF units to send teams into J&K and NE. Even the CO's of Officers "invited" to come over were unaware of what SG was.

 

[notaname]

Incorrect news. For a few weeks now, 81 Sqn AF has been carrying out regular sorties and evacuation of all 'non-essential' personnel was carried out in addition to those Indians who were in touch with the embassy and were willing to travel back.

But average numbers which came back were 30-40 per flight. So, more of equipment and other paraphrenalia were removed.

Coordination with US and others took place as US took the lead in securing the airfield. But it does not mean that there were no "boots on ground" for India too.

All evacuations like these through hostile territories are done under a security 'overwatch' and escort. The same was not composed of personnel who were seen on aircraft aka the ITBP. But there were teams out there securing the evacuation route.

The "delay" took place primarily due to the abandoning of their posts by the staff at airport which caused chaos and potential security risk.

Sir, The above info I got was from Nitin Ghokle and other people if I remember correctly (from his video on his channel about evacuation)