Indian Special Forces

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

I had seen some one posted pic of ' wall of ghosts from 9 para'. So whats the criteria for entering it?iirc i didnt recall seeing the pic of Sanjog chethri or Mohan Goswami in it thats why asked. Is it only for officers?

Can you share the pic

 

[Sourajit Dutta]

I had seen some one posted pic of ' wall of ghosts from 9 para'. So whats the criteria for entering it?iirc i didnt recall seeing the pic of Sanjog chethri or Mohan Goswami in it thats why asked. Is it only for officers?

Can you share the pic

And yes, it's from the Officer's Mess. An operator from 9 is a painter. The Wall has caricature of every officer of 9 from 1966!
(afaik)

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Multicam

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

This surprises me a lot. Because right on the other side of the border you have SSG, which is very well structured. Man or man, Para SF can take them on, heck even our Ghataks can, but I have always wondered why is there a difference between the two armies in how they structure and treat their special forces.

US Military Training and Support. US had Military Assistance Advisory Group in Pakistan in 1950s and as part of this assistance US Military advisors also helped lay the foundation of PISSG and pakis took it and ran with it. Pakis are still trying to emulate the US in every possible way from Uniforms to Military units. Indian Army is still using the old British style military doctrines and thinking that even British don’t even follow today. India needs to make changes to doctrines and thinking to fight modern conflicts.

 

[ALBY]

And yes, it's from the Officer's Mess. An operator from 9 is a painter. The Wall has caricature of every officer of 9 from 1966!
(afaik)

Ok thanks for the clarification

 

[ALBY]

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

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Any training pic from this joint exercise?

 

[ALBY]

Any training pic from this joint exercise?

No.. Just saw thiis in insta last day in some ones profile

 

[Scramjet]

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Found this on Google

FOV ±2° is always there

 

[Rahul19]

Why don't SFs around the world use bullpups? Even those countries which use bullpups as the primary weapon for their infantry don't use them for their SF. Like Australians or the British.

 

[Marliii]

Why don't SFs around the world use bullpups? Even those countries which use bullpups as the primary weapon for their infantry don't use them for their SF. Like Australians or the British.

Why do most special operations forces use traditional style rifles (not bullpups), even though their own military has adopted the bullpup...

Answer (1 of 6): It's simple really. Special forces are required to undertake missions where close combat is usually the priority. In close combat against superior numbers, heavy burst and/or fully automatic fire from an assault rifle is important. Why does that make a difference? Bullpups are...

www.quora.com

 

[Rahul19]

Why do most special operations forces use traditional style rifles (not bullpups), even though their own military has adopted the bullpup...

Answer (1 of 6): It's simple really. Special forces are required to undertake missions where close combat is usually the priority. In close combat against superior numbers, heavy burst and/or fully automatic fire from an assault rifle is important. Why does that make a difference? Bullpups are...

www.quora.com

That did answer my question but it raised another. Why are we using them and what are our operator's opinion on the Tavor? Also are there any plans to move on from the bullpup platform to ARs or will para SF keep using them?

 

[AVINASH4061]

US Military Training and Support. US had Military Assistance Advisory Group in Pakistan in 1950s and as part of this assistance US Military advisors also helped lay the foundation of PISSG and pakis took it and ran with it. Pakis are still trying to emulate the US in every possible way from Uniforms to Military units. Indian Army is still using the old British style military doctrines and thinking that even British don’t even follow today. India needs to make changes to doctrines and thinking to fight modern conflicts.

And very conveniently, India will not. It's drowning in Corruption and Ego.

 

[Marliii]

That did answer my question but it raised another. Why are we using them and what are our operator's opinion on the Tavor? Also are there any plans to move on from the bullpup platform to ARs or will para SF keep using them?

This has been discussed to the death in the small arms thread and in this thread.going back will help you understand it.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

for now those exoskeletons are just a gimmick.

Beg to disagree.

For Indian Army Exoskeleton is a gimmick is more appropriate.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

@AVINASH4061 sir,
There was a cropped pic circulating yesterday, which was said to be of a RFI in which quad/dual tubes NVD are being procured by Northern Command, but such a RFI couldn't be found on army's website. Are you aware whether such an RFI has actually been released or was it fake?
Hope this isn't some sensitive info.

 

[ManhattanProject]

Why don't SFs around the world use bullpups? Even those countries which use bullpups as the primary weapon for their infantry don't use them for their SF. Like Australians or the British.

Bullpups with side ejection ports make weak hand shooting very difficult, the brass hits your face. If they make it forward eject or bottom eject, malfunction clearing becomes a chore as you cant see inside the chamber. Bullpups generally have shittier triggers. Handguards dont provide enough railspace for mounting accessories.
Alot of these issues can be solved, but it still ends up being awkward to shoot because of its ergonomics, you cant even adjust the length of pull.
Its easier to just go with an AR variant then to dedicate time and money into a new rifle that solves these issues.
The only thing bullpups achieve is being shorter in length, but the special operations community have found ways to deal with the length of their conventional weapons at such a degree that it isnt an issue anymore.

 

[ManhattanProject]

Beg to disagree.

For Indian Army Exoskeleton is a gimmick is more appropriate.

Not just India, most countries arent even close to field one in actual combat.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Not just India, most countries arent even close to field one in actual combat.

Thats not true.