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Took me a while to get to this

so what exactly is this guy’s issue? All the top (domestic) CT units in Europe (like GIGN, GSG9, DSI etc) are made up 100% of police personnel. What is so unique about army personnel that they cannot be replaced in this specialist role?SPG doesn’t recruit any army personnel.

and the ultimate irony here is that for years there’s been friction between MoD and MHA on army deputations to NSG, the army has made it increasingly restrictive for their members to join NSG

Anyway NSG knows what it is doing, their modernisation has put the PARA (SF) to shame, they are far more innovative and adopt technology across the board, this al under IPS leadership.

the NSG has also re-organised so that CT roles are not exclusive to SAG (hence army personnel) anymore. Their hubs are home to SCGs (special composite groups) which are a mix of SAG and SRG personnel and are exclusively meant for CT ops.

within 5-10 years CAPF personnel could easily replace all army personnel within NSG and I think this should be pursued, having army members inside NSG has long since outlived its value
IPS guys are looked down upon but many of them are quite smart and they actually do good research and implementation
 

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It’s typical institutionalism- they favour the status quo and will try to keep others off what they perceive as ‘their’ turf.

that said the ‘CAPFisastion’ of NSG I would’ve thought would be welcomed by IA officers who have consistently moaned and b!tched about the cream of their units wanting to go off to NSG for 3 years. Unless they are concerned that it’ll mean that NSG starts to operate more independently from the IA in places They have traditionally considered ‘their’ turf aka JK and NE.

there’s a NSG detachment in JK but hasn’t been used in even a single operation there to date

SOCOM won’t help reform the mindset of the military but it’ll give MoD SF units a fighting chance of getting more specialist kit and in a timely manner

it’s up to the SF commanders after that to reform their capabilities and specialise their mission set
NSG is quite an effective force, why aren't they used in many of the places where the job is of exactly their own profile
 

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@45:00 onwards about NSG
I think COBRA has performed exceptionally well.

The thing is where is the recruitment from.Primarily it should be from BSF,ITBP,SSB and CRPF and not state Police.

Then they have to be groomed the right way.The average Police man doesn't have exposure to such things so you cannot expect him to outperfrom someone from Infantry.

Lastly you have to give longer tenures to these guys.Training and maintaining standards requires energy and money.

So the talent has to be retained.

Eventually Army has to give up NSG for better and focus on SOCOM.
 
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