Indian Special Forces

[NoobWannaLearn]

it is not, SG, NSG and SFF - none are permanent all have 2.5-3 years in and then move back

I knew about nsg and sff but I thought sg would have been permanent cause well uk they are the best of the best still not permanent they and nsg should definitely have permanently cadre

 

[Jedi Operator]

I knew about nsg and sff but I thought sg would have been permanent cause well uk they are the best of the best still not permanent they and nsg should definitely have permanently cadre

haha na, and then it's like they are almost forgotton as SG. You see guys with SG badge in Para SF documentaries, news coverage and press release. I still dont understand why they compromize their identities

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

haha na, and then it's like they are almost forgotton as SG. You see guys with SG badge in Para SF documentaries, news coverage and press release. I still dont understand why they compromize their identities

Cause we don't take opsec seriously at all

 

[rkhanna]

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Why cant we develop the SIG 716 in a DMR version? Heavier Barrel etc. ?

Wait even sg is not permanent? You move back to your squad?

No. Deputation can last from one single op (weeks to a few months) or a couple of years an then they are rotated back. The Training in SG emphasis more low drag, high speed and with a smaller footprint - including solatiry mission.

The SF who deployed with the NA in the 90s were all under SG/CS C&C

No unit memory

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Why cant we develop the SIG 716 in a DMR version? Heavier Barrel etc. ?

Nsgs are using sigs as dmrs just take a book out of there page

No. Deputation can last from one single op (weeks to a few months) or a couple of years an then they are rotated back. The Training in SG emphasis more low drag, high speed and with a smaller footprint - including solatiry mission.

The SF who deployed with the NA in the 90s were all under SG/CS C&C

No unit memory

That's quite interesting to read thanks all the new training just for few months or years of job but one question that always bothers me is that if para boys go to NSG and now even SG then why don't we see changes in para units where does all that knowledge vanish does it have to do with culture of Paras that never changes or its mentally that jo chal Raha chalne do

 

[rkhanna]

Nsgs are using sigs as dmrs just take a book out of there page

They have upgraded the barrels - Heavier and maybe 20" ? if not then not real DMRs - just using a Battle Rifle with a Scope. But you CAN upgrade it with a heavier barrel - Increase MOA etc.

IMO across the lenght and breath of Infantry it should be a no brainer choice.

SF should look at the M10 / Caracal DMRs if needed. EVEN The TAVOR 7 DMR version would be OK.

Nsgs are using sigs as dmrs just take a book out of there page

That's quite interesting to read thanks all the new training just for few months or years of job but one question that always bothers me is that if para boys go to NSG and now even SG then why don't we see changes in para units where does all that knowledge vanish does it have to do with culture of Paras that never changes or its mentally that jo chal Raha chalne do

Well the knowledge remains in bits and pieces with instructors. but it is not institutionalized. The Logic of the RTU was that the new skills will go back to parent unit but we know that doesnt happen much. Every soldier eventually adopts the pace of the mass. So they revert back so to say.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Caracal DMRs

Carcals would be fine since they are great design and incomm will be producing there here in India anyway

 

[rkhanna]

Carcals would be fine since they are great design and incomm will be producing there here in India anyway

Caracal's are a clear upgrade to both HK and SIGs. The history of the company is very interesting

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Caracal's are a clear upgrade to both HK and SIGs. The history of the company is very interesting

Yea I read the designer was from a big company HK or somewhere

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

wasn't this years Vajra prahar supposed to be held in USA?

 

[rkhanna]

Yea I read the designer was from a big company HK or somewhere

2 Engineers - 1 was the Head of R&D from HK the other from SIG .

 

[airborneCommando]

wasn't this years Vajra prahar supposed to be held in USA?

Yea but its being held in Meghalya

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

wasn't this years Vajra prahar supposed to be held in USA?

I thought so too I thought wrong ig

 

[airborneCommando]

One of my knowns was in "Alpine Special Group" do you know about this org ?
They seem to be a seperate entity within the SFF as maximum troops are from Regular Vikas Bns.
They've got mostly SFF and SG weaponary incl. mp5s, silenced Shipkas, uzi/micro uzi, gen 0 Tavors, FAB/Normal Romanian AKs, Dragunovs, PSG-1, old Ar18, m16 and new IWI Jerihcos all with simunition kits aswell

Does anyone know abt this ? One more thing i'd like to add is that they use SFF Rank Structure and are under SFF C2

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

2 Engineers - 1 was the Head of R&D from HK the other from SIG .

Dang that's some top quality talent they got there hope some carcall makes it into indian army armoury maybe those ars for sf or marcos cause they are they one I think will be willing to switch to ars for now

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

One of my knowns was in "Alpine Special Group" do you know about this org ?
They seem to be a seperate entity within the SFF as maximum troops are from Regular Vikas Bns.
They've got mostly SFF and SG weaponary incl. mp5s, silenced Shipkas, uzi/micro uzi, gen 0 Tavors, FAB/Normal Romanian AKs, Dragunovs, PSG-1, old Ar18, m16 and new IWI Jerihcos all with simunition kits aswell

P.S - didn't sgs have some scars as well ?

 

[AZTEC]

No. Deputation can last from one single op (weeks to a few months) or a couple of years an then they are rotated back. The Training in SG emphasis more low drag, high speed and with a smaller footprint - including solatiry mission.

The SF who deployed with the NA in the 90s were all under SG/CS C&C

No unit memory

Rotating back black ops seems like a counter-intelligence nightmare. How will thay maintain compartmentalization if all guys are dispursed back to parent units?
Or do they even try to compartmentalize? xD

 

[airborneCommando]

P.S - didn't sgs have some scars as well ?

No these "Alpine SG" guys dont have scars as of now

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

No these "Alpine SG" guys dont have scars as of now

But we can buy scars now if we wanted to from fn usa now right? Or we still can't

 

[rkhanna]

One of my knowns was in "Alpine Special Group" do you know about this org ?
They seem to be a seperate entity within the SFF as maximum troops are from Regular Vikas Bns.
They've got mostly SFF and SG weaponary incl. mp5s, silenced Shipkas, uzi/micro uzi, gen 0 Tavors, FAB/Normal Romanian AKs, Dragunovs, PSG-1, old Ar18, m16 and new IWI Jerihcos all with simunition kits aswell

Never heard of Alpine SG. Alpine on its own comes the from word ALPS. for an indian unit to be using it even unoffocially is LOL.

It cannot be SG and then staffed with SFF troopers. defeats the purpose. the SFF itself are High Altitude Specialist. Creating an overlaping niche within the niche doesnt sit right?

There are way too many acronyms associated with SFF and SG. part of it is strategic - even OPFOR cant figure out the orbat. part of it is that every CO tends to add his own flavor to the units. - Alpine SG, X/Y Vikas, Para Gurkhas, Establishment 22. etc etc.

At best it would be the High Altitude arm of SFF deputed to SG as they might need more dedicated muscle for what they need to do on the Border and maynot want adhoc resources from SG. Check if there were ethnic Khampas in this "Alpine" unit - Will give a hint what purpose this unit is oriented for

Honestly i wouldnt read more than that into it. (or seek more info on)