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The same unit would also undertake several successful counter- insurgency operations in the North East. An operation conducted by a small team of two young officers and two NCOs in a covert mode in March 1998, in general area Churachandpur of Manipur in CounterInsurgency environment proves this. The initial plan was made when an input was received that a local resident in a remote village close to Myanmar border produces country made AK-47 weapons for the militants. Based on this information, this small team planned a snatch operation to pick up this individual to carry out interrogation to gain more useful inputs. This small team moved in covert mode in a civil hired van to the intended objective, however, due to heavy rains and poor road conditions, the operation was called off midway. The team leader decided to take a different route for coming back to base, which although short, was not used by military convoys and accordingly, there was never a route opening done for this route. The team had just traversed a few miles on this stretch, when they sighted a column of 10-12 militants walking in a formation with weapons and combat loads, confidently, as Army carries out patrolling. Movement of such a large group of militants was probably due to army presence being minimal in that area. As the van crossed this column, militants tried to stop this van, probably for checking or for extortion. As the team leader did not stop the vehicle, few shots were fired on the van, which only damaged the rear windshield.
The team leader halted the vehicle after going about a kilometre ahead and made a plan to apprehend this group in spite of being totally outnumbered in manpower as well as weapons, as such a lucrative target is a rare opportunity to come by. The team climbed a hillock after hiding the van in thick undergrowth. The opportunity ambush was so sited to cover open flanks also, as it was envisaged that on contact militant might try to manoeuvre around the ambush site. Armed with just two AK 47 with five magazines each and two pistols each round had to make hit the militants. As the column of militants reached in close vicinity, they were effectively engaged by the team. The firefight lasted for about 20 minutes after which anticipating a strong resistance, the militants retreated. The team waited for darkness to undertake the search of the area. The success of this operation included the neutralising of five militants with weapons and a large quantity of explosives and incriminating documents. This was a classic small team operation by a Special Forces team highlighting initiative at junior leader level and a bold planning and execution.

TLDR: 2 para sf operatives single handedly killed 5 hardcore NE terrorists

Pretty old op but IMO- this Is more a commando than SOF operation
 

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The same unit would also undertake several successful counter- insurgency operations in the North East. An operation conducted by a small team of two young officers and two NCOs in a covert mode in March 1998, in general area Churachandpur of Manipur in CounterInsurgency environment proves this. The initial plan was made when an input was received that a local resident in a remote village close to Myanmar border produces country made AK-47 weapons for the militants. Based on this information, this small team planned a snatch operation to pick up this individual to carry out interrogation to gain more useful inputs. This small team moved in covert mode in a civil hired van to the intended objective, however, due to heavy rains and poor road conditions, the operation was called off midway. The team leader decided to take a different route for coming back to base, which although short, was not used by military convoys and accordingly, there was never a route opening done for this route. The team had just traversed a few miles on this stretch, when they sighted a column of 10-12 militants walking in a formation with weapons and combat loads, confidently, as Army carries out patrolling. Movement of such a large group of militants was probably due to army presence being minimal in that area. As the van crossed this column, militants tried to stop this van, probably for checking or for extortion. As the team leader did not stop the vehicle, few shots were fired on the van, which only damaged the rear windshield.
The team leader halted the vehicle after going about a kilometre ahead and made a plan to apprehend this group in spite of being totally outnumbered in manpower as well as weapons, as such a lucrative target is a rare opportunity to come by. The team climbed a hillock after hiding the van in thick undergrowth. The opportunity ambush was so sited to cover open flanks also, as it was envisaged that on contact militant might try to manoeuvre around the ambush site. Armed with just two AK 47 with five magazines each and two pistols each round had to make hit the militants. As the column of militants reached in close vicinity, they were effectively engaged by the team. The firefight lasted for about 20 minutes after which anticipating a strong resistance, the militants retreated. The team waited for darkness to undertake the search of the area. The success of this operation included the neutralising of five militants with weapons and a large quantity of explosives and incriminating documents. This was a classic small team operation by a Special Forces team highlighting initiative at junior leader level and a bold planning and execution.

TLDR: 2 para sf operatives single handedly killed 5 hardcore NE terrorists

Pretty old op but IMO- this Is more a commando than SOF operation
NVM its covert
Counts as SOF
Based OP regardless
 

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1) very small sized unit
2) flexibility and decentralised C&C
3) Covert nature
Lookin at ops paras did back in 90s. It’s clear that they were on par with western SOFs, barring kit. The ops they conducted were *almost* on par with us sof (as paras were operating in hostile land in own country, while us in foreign hostile land). I doubt their ethos is the same anymore tho
 

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The same unit would also undertake several successful counter- insurgency operations in the North East. An operation conducted by a small team of two young officers and two NCOs in a covert mode in March 1998, in general area Churachandpur of Manipur in CounterInsurgency environment proves this. The initial plan was made when an input was received that a local resident in a remote village close to Myanmar border produces country made AK-47 weapons for the militants. Based on this information, this small team planned a snatch operation to pick up this individual to carry out interrogation to gain more useful inputs. This small team moved in covert mode in a civil hired van to the intended objective, however, due to heavy rains and poor road conditions, the operation was called off midway. The team leader decided to take a different route for coming back to base, which although short, was not used by military convoys and accordingly, there was never a route opening done for this route. The team had just traversed a few miles on this stretch, when they sighted a column of 10-12 militants walking in a formation with weapons and combat loads, confidently, as Army carries out patrolling. Movement of such a large group of militants was probably due to army presence being minimal in that area. As the van crossed this column, militants tried to stop this van, probably for checking or for extortion. As the team leader did not stop the vehicle, few shots were fired on the van, which only damaged the rear windshield.
The team leader halted the vehicle after going about a kilometre ahead and made a plan to apprehend this group in spite of being totally outnumbered in manpower as well as weapons, as such a lucrative target is a rare opportunity to come by. The team climbed a hillock after hiding the van in thick undergrowth. The opportunity ambush was so sited to cover open flanks also, as it was envisaged that on contact militant might try to manoeuvre around the ambush site. Armed with just two AK 47 with five magazines each and two pistols each round had to make hit the militants. As the column of militants reached in close vicinity, they were effectively engaged by the team. The firefight lasted for about 20 minutes after which anticipating a strong resistance, the militants retreated. The team waited for darkness to undertake the search of the area. The success of this operation included the neutralising of five militants with weapons and a large quantity of explosives and incriminating documents. This was a classic small team operation by a Special Forces team highlighting initiative at junior leader level and a bold planning and execution.

TLDR: 2 para sf operatives single handedly killed 5 hardcore NE terrorists

Pretty old op but IMO- this Is more a commando than SOF operation
4 operatives* killed 5 hardcore ne terrorists
 

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Bac from the ded to post this reminder.

You'll see pvs31s with a few para SF units soon. Keep an eye for Black TASL maritime HC helmets.
OpsCore FAST XP is going standard.
New Vests are being purchased for most of the mission set.
NSG type kits and WEAPONS are also being brought back, maybe a few battalions are going experimental mode.
Parachute regiment is undergoing a LOT of changes.

Ok bye
Hui hui hui already got something.
That Marcos + para guys operating together pic. It was not really Marcos (prob)
 

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MARCOS heading SF modernization while para guys following their steps.

It should have been other way around but anyway something is better than nothing
You could look at it like the JSOC- USSOCCOM situation, the smaller, agile more focused units trail blazed equipment/training that was then adopted by the larger organisation.
 

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If the IA didn’t have such a boner for imported toys the INSAS could’ve been a fairly decent product if they just adapted it and kept it modernised, some new furniture (stocks and hand guards) with full length rails and such would’ve been fine.

instead they are adopting a 1940s design (AK-203) rifle and a select few units with what is effectively a DMR (SIG-716). Corrupt or inept it’s hard to tell with these guys anymore, probably both

same story with the Arjun

IA has been the biggest impediment to the Indian defence industry, now other countries are buying the stuff these jokers keep in trails in perpetuity and exposing them as the sellouts they are. Anyone that’s a nationalist should be spitting in the faces of all these generals that have systematically sabotaged their nation to this extent and made them the wh0res of the global arms giants
 

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Where did all the red dots and lights disappear to? are they running stock guns because they know they are rendered safe for demos? I like the new helmet covers though..
Yeah helmet covers are way better than their shiny vanilla ACHs and they look like they’ve got some counterweights? The sights thing is weird, for a while you would never see NSG (SAG) boys without them now they seem to be going backwards on this front and those drills and movements were very awkward and sloppy, so much flagging and sloppy actions.

as mentioned earlier it’s almost impossible to judge NSG though. This could’ve been a second tier SCG/SRG team (seems unlikely if they are a HIT doing HR), support guys or the real deal (SAG) just not the CTTF guys

NSG probably frustrates me the most because they’ve got so much right and the fundamentals are there but the execution is very sloppy and I reiterate that the deputation model keeps them immature, the best HR teams in the world are made up of highly experienced operators (10-15 years of service) who do nothing but that specialisation for years. Even the best HR guy in NSG will spend at most 20-24 months operational with the unit
 

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Yeah helmet covers are way better than their shiny vanilla ACHs and they look like they’ve got some counterweights? The sights thing is weird, for a while you would never see NSG (SAG) boys without them now they seem to be going backwards on this front and those drills and movements were very awkward and sloppy, so much flagging and sloppy actions.

as mentioned earlier it’s almost impossible to judge NSG though. This could’ve been a second tier SCG/SRG team (seems unlikely if they are a HIT doing HR), support guys or the real deal (SAG) just not the CTTF guys

NSG probably frustrates me the most because they’ve got so much right and the fundamentals are there but the execution is very sloppy and I reiterate that the deputation model keeps them immature, the best HR teams in the world are made up of highly experienced operators (10-15 years of service) who do nothing but that specialisation for years. Even the best HR guy in NSG will spend at most 20-24 months operational with the unit
Pathankot was largely NSG right? From what I’ve been able to read
1- terrorists killed by dsc personnel in mess
1- by GARUDS
4- NSG
 

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If the IA didn’t have such a boner for imported toys the INSAS could’ve been a fairly decent product if they just adapted it and kept it modernised, some new furniture (stocks and hand guards) with full length rails and such would’ve been fine.

instead they are adopting a 1940s design (AK-203) rifle and a select few units with what is effectively a DMR (SIG-716). Corrupt or inept it’s hard to tell with these guys anymore, probably both

same story with the Arjun

IA has been the biggest impediment to the Indian defence industry, now other countries are buying the stuff these jokers keep in trails in perpetuity and exposing them as the sellouts they are. Anyone that’s a nationalist should be spitting in the faces of all these generals that have systematically sabotaged their nation to this extent and made them the wh0res of the global arms giants
I think the scarring of SLR by AKs in Lanka has effectively made them resent locally made weapons
 

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Excuse my noobness, but what attachment is it on the right end of the screen ??

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