Indian Special Forces

[abingdonboy]

On the realist side , all of these are just propaganda , they have the same exact powers as to what the president is to the pm , they're just ceremonial( not to insult the president of course, just trying to prove a point here) , maybe they might have some medical role / behind enemy lines role but nothing more than that

Prove it.

anyway, every female in this unit is taking the place of an actual combatant, regular infantry don’t even have females serving but somehow they made their way into the most ‘elite’ unit of the IA? Beyond a joke. Any foreign unit that trains with the Paras from now on and sees these girls strutting around with their SF tabs will rightly have a good laugh and look down on Indian SF even more

 

[jai jaganath]

Prove it.

anyway, every female in this unit is taking the place of an actual combatant, regular infantry don’t even have females serving but somehow they made their way into the most ‘elite’ unit of the IA? Beyond a joke. Any foreign unit that trains with the Paras from now on and sees these girls strutting around with their SF tabs will rightly have a good laugh and look down on Indian SF even more

As far as their ops is concerned they might be in medic or somewhere damn behind
They will never be used in ops
Just training doesn't indicate that for pr many sof include females but as usual they aren't being used neither in ops nor joint exercises

 

[abingdonboy]

As far as their ops is concerned they might be in medic or somewhere damn behind
They will never be used in ops
Just training doesn't indicate that for pr many sof include females but as usual they aren't being used neither in ops nor joint exercises

So combat units are now tourist experiences? Like I said- every spot a female takes is one less soldier in the field. Her equipment training etc all is paid for by this unit.

SF aren’t the place to have these social woke games played out, whatever remained of the Para’s reputation after the expansion is gone now, there’s no credibility in a force that’ll degrade its standards just to make PR, PLA didn’t even have to fire a shot.

 

[jai jaganath]

So combat units are now tourist experiences? Like I said- every spot a female takes is one less soldier in the field. Her equipment training etc all is paid for by this unit.

SF aren’t the place to have these social woke games played out, whatever remained of the Para’s reputation after the expansion is gone now, there’s no credibility in a force that’ll degrade its standards just to make PR, PLA didn’t even have to fire a shot.

Bro when u get few females just for some pr and decrease their standards only it does nothing serious
Soldiers will be filled as per requirement bcoz its well known that these females can't be sent to combat
Many sof induct females just for pr having no actual usage
PLA doesn't need it right now might be u may see females inducted for pr as even now u can see many Chinese woman producing those tik tok videos but again u will say might not be sf but know less about them
Moreover every sof which inducts female has only 1 purpose that is pr they will never see combat

 

[abingdonboy]

Bro when u get few females just for some pr and decrease their standards only it does nothing serious
Soldiers will be filled as per requirement bcoz its well known that these females can't be sent to combat
Many sof induct females just for pr having no actual usage
PLA doesn't need it right now might be u may see females inducted for pr as even now u can see many Chinese woman producing those tik tok videos but again u will say might not be sf but know less about them
Moreover every sof which inducts female has only 1 purpose that is pr they will never see combat

Every unit has an ORBAT, they have an approved headcount, so unless this is officially altered there’s no scope for ‘PR models’ in a COMBAT unit. Every female in that unit is 1 less capable qualified soldier. Already these units have a hard enough time maintaining operational readiness and they are further degrading that ability just to appease SJWs?

this is how men get killed and operations get botched, there’s no justification for this nonsense. As always, importing Western BS into a third world military is a recipe for disaster. That woman can barely shoulder her rifle, if she’s sent on a mission she’s a liability, if she’s not sent that’s a spot that won’t be filled in a team.

this is before we even get into the effect this cr@p will have on the social and team dynamics inside these units, everywhere it’s been studied it’s been proven to be destructive to moral and military capability.

 

[abingdonboy]

+ someone remind me the last time a female jihadi was in a gunfight in JK/LoC? The last time the PLA deployed women to barge onto Indian territory

why make your enemy’s job easier?

What an insult to all the hard men that serve in destitute conditions fighting the good fight all these years

 

[jai jaganath]

Every unit has an ORBAT, they have an approved headcount, so unless this is officially altered there’s no scope for ‘PR models’ in a COMBAT unit. Every female in that unit is 1 less capable qualified soldier. Already these units have a hard enough time maintaining operational readiness and they are further degrading that ability just to appease SJWs?

this is how men get killed and operations get botched, there’s no justification for this nonsense. As always, importing Western BS into a third world military is a recipe for disaster. That woman can barely shoulder her rifle, if she’s sent on a mission she’s a liability, if she’s not sent that’s a spot that won’t be filled in a team.

this is before we even get into the effect this cr@p will have on the social and team dynamics inside these units, everywhere it’s been studied it’s been proven to be destructive to moral and military capability.

I agree completely with u but it's fact that females there are only for pr and the men will be inducted as per requirement
It's the clear intention of Army
I have spoken to one who is in army but one of his friend is in sf
He said even officers there have reservation regarding females in sf and they all understand the purpose of it
Induction will be on basis of requirement and excluding female
Their standards have been lowered recently as he said that even earlier it was open for them but no one could pass it
Same things have been said by @Angel of War too

 

[Twinblade]

On the realist side , all of these are just propaganda , they have the same exact powers as to what the president is to the pm , they're just ceremonial( not to insult the president of course, just trying to prove a point here) , maybe they might have some medical role / behind enemy lines role but nothing more than that

Medics and even doctors serve in combat role in SF. Do look up Dr. Major Surendra Poonia. I think beer baatli did a podcast with him.

 

[jai jaganath]

+ someone remind me the last time a female jihadi was in a gunfight in JK/LoC? The last time the PLA deployed women to barge onto Indian territory

why make your enemy’s job easier?

What an insult to all the hard men that serve in destitute conditions fighting the good fight all these years

Similarly no female will ever see combat from our side
Even PLA has so called fighting capable females which they post on propaganda videos as if they are in battle but we all know they aren't present anywhere close to combat zone

 

[abingdonboy]

I agree completely with u but it's fact that females there are only for pr and the men will be inducted as per requirement
It's the clear intention of Army
I have spoken to one who is in army but one of his friend is in sf
He said even officers there have reservation regarding females in sf and they all understand the purpose of it
Induction will be on basis of requirement and excluding female
Their standards have been lowered recently as he said that even earlier it was open for them but no one could pass it
Same things have been said by @Angel of War too

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

this is the very first step in the accelerated destruction of this force, once you start lowering standards there’s no going back

if a combat force isn’t able to place combat effectiveness as the first/second/third priority and instead starts engaging in PR nonsense then it isn’t long for this world.

Indians’ humiliation fetish is about to be overloaded in the near future

 

[Inderjeet Singh]

Burhan 308 Rifle made by Sudanese Defence industries I know not belong this thread atleast read this

 

[ManhattanProject]

A few weeks ago I was assured this nonsense would never happen

as usual in the Indian military- optics>utility

peacetime generals going to peacetime general

Something India beats NATO to- females in SOF, even the wokiest of Western nations wouldn’t compromise their standards for this cr@p, IA made it happen within months. Not sure what Paras did to IA HQ to make them hated so much but the last 4/5 years has been an all out assault on them from the top, the beret and Balidan are basically worthless now

Probably some general who has a daughter in NDA and she has a dream of being in the para sf and he made it happen.

 

[ManhattanProject]

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she does not need sights, she has woman's intuition.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[abingdonboy]

Probably some general who has a daughter in NDA and she has a dream of being in the para sf and he made it happen.

The way india is mindlessly aping the West, give it 5-10 years and these ladies will start litigating against the GoI/IA for discrimination and probably some me too bs

these woke generals have opened up Pandora’s box now but the will long since be retired to the golf courses and swanky colonies by the time the brown stuff hits the fan

 

[Spadex]

Probably some general who has a daughter in NDA and she has a dream of being in the para sf and he made it happen.

Let me tell a funny story.

Army highly diluted the traning regime for the first batch of ladies in NDA (current course)

Still 65 percent of them boarded out of academy within few week because of injuries by that diluted traning regime.


Only 5-6 girls remains in this group

Ofcourse it's just a story Becouse army will never comment on it

 

[jai jaganath]

Let me tell a funny story.

Army highly diluted the traning regime for the first batch of ladies in NDA (current course)

Still 65 percent of them boarded out of academy within few week because of injuries by that diluted traning regime.


Only 5-6 girls remains in this groupView attachment 201741

Ofcourse it's just a story Becouse army will never comment on it

Is it true

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[abingdonboy]

Let me tell a funny story.

Army highly diluted the traning regime for the first batch of ladies in NDA (current course)

Still 65 percent of them boarded out of academy within few week because of injuries by that diluted traning regime.


Only 5-6 girls remains in this groupView attachment 201741

Ofcourse it's just a story Becouse army will never comment on it

Yet somehow these women are able to make it through Para selection

Not suspicious at all

 

[abingdonboy]

+ again, no infantry battalion in india has female combatants, to jump straight to SF selection exposes this whole farce

for all the noise you hear from certain veterans about unit/service pride they never utter a syllable as the IA’s most ‘elite’ regiment is being systematically dismantled. But there was SO much outcry over the Agniveer program that is designed to streamline the services so that they can actually become combat effective this century