Indian Special Forces

[rkhanna]

EXFIL + TONBO ARJUN-H
MKU + BEL Single Tube Full Field View Binocular NVG
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Some more

Looking at the terrain. Imagine the casualties they would take running this op in the real world in the day time/first light.

We need to bring up our night fighting capabilities asap

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Could anyone please identify this aiming laser?

 

[Killbot]

View attachment 81319 Could anyone please identify this aiming laser?

AN/PEQ-15 IPTIAL

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Is this river Pangong tso or Galwan? Or some other??

 

[ALBY]

It wasn't a political question at all and I did put a disclaimer as well in my post as well. U r very free to have ur own opinions abt anybody. I never quoted u, kindly ignore me. Do not quote my post again; im not interested in ur very " intellectual" opinions either.

Sorry sir/madame i don't have any particular interest to engage in a critical debate with you neither want to bring light into your thought process. But as long as i am a moderator of this thread, the last thing i want is the derailment of the thread with fundamentalistic ideas . "How about using SF to contain opponents in Bengal, Kerala, Delhi and if it was not certain group my state would have gone into chaos " aint seemed to be any innocent idea. You cant compare that with debate on pros and cons of using Bisleri water by SF.
I am sure there are literally a millions threads out there you could discuss that sort of ideas, but here its not welcome.
Hope this will be our last discussion on this and sorry to all folks out there for deviating from the subject.

 

[SUPERPOWER]

Elite team..
My only question is why all 6 are operating the same gun !!!!!

1) 2 elites can have TAR
2) 2 can have M16 or AK
3) 1 can have SVD or Galil.
4) 1 can have SAW or LMG.

This are just my thoughts

 

[ManhattanProject]

Sorry sir/madame i don't have any particular interest to engage in a critical debate with you neither want to bring light into your thought process. But as long as i am a moderator of this thread, the last thing i want is the derailment of the thread with fundamentalistic ideas . "How about using SF to contain opponents in Bengal, Kerala, Delhi and if it was not certain group my state would have gone into chaos " aint seemed to be any innocent idea. You cant compare that with debate on pros and cons of using Bisleri water by SF.
I am sure there are literally a millions threads out there you could discuss that sort of ideas, but here its not welcome.
Hope this will be our last discussion on this and sorry to all folks out there for deviating from the subject.

Shukriya Mod bhaiyya.

 

[ManhattanProject]

View attachment 81319 Could anyone please identify this aiming laser?

The only time i have seen these with our forces, they are quite expensive so i dont think this officer bought it with his own money.
Presence of these might also indicate RR is working on their night fighting capabilities.

 

[porky_kicker]

 

[rkhanna]

Sorry sir/madame i don't have any particular interest to engage in a critical debate with you neither want to bring light into your thought process. But as long as i am a moderator of this thread, the last thing i want is the derailment of the thread with fundamentalistic ideas . "How about using SF to contain opponents in Bengal, Kerala, Delhi and if it was not certain group my state would have gone into chaos " aint seemed to be any innocent idea. You cant compare that with debate on pros and cons of using Bisleri water by SF.
I am sure there are literally a millions threads out there you could discuss that sort of ideas, but here its not welcome.
Hope this will be our last discussion on this and sorry to all folks out there for deviating from the subject.

Keeping in Mind that this is the same Indian Army that told Indira Gandhi to fuck off during emergency, calling SF to purge all opposition to current govt is definetly a new low.

Like Alby says there are enough threads to bang on women, muslims, psuedo seculars, urban naxals, students, enviormentalist, commies (fill in the blank) please let's keep this thread SF related.

 

[Aspirant847]

Keeping in Mind that this is the same Indian Army that told Indira Gandhi to fuck off during emergency, calling SF to purge all opposition to current govt is definetly a new low.

Like Alby says there are enough threads to bang on women, muslims, psuedo seculars, urban naxals, students, enviormentalist, commies (fill in the blank) please let's keep this thread SF related.

I don't get the indira gandhi analogy?

 

[rkhanna]

I don't get the indira gandhi analogy?

Understand the ethos of the army. Suggesting to use them against our own population that is opposing this govt is a most gross insult. As this new generation has found pride in the Army they need to also need to understand what our armed forces actually stand for.

 

[Aspirant847]

Understand the ethos of the army. Suggesting to use them against our own population that is opposing this govt is a most gross insult. As this new generation has found pride in the Army they need to also need to understand what our armed forces actually stand for.

No, I agree I was asking about the indira gandhi analogy?

 

[Aditya Ballal]

The only time i have seen these with our forces, they are quite expensive so i dont think this officer bought it with his own money.
Presence of these might also indicate RR is working on their night fighting capabilities.

Are there any other less expensive alternatives to the AN PEQ 15, as it costs more than a gun itself?

 

[ALBY]

Are there any other less expensive alternatives to the AN PEQ 15, as it costs more than a gun itself?

Reason why it is costlier than a gun
I took an electrical engineering technology course, I'll try to explain.

1. A weapon light or laser must be powerful to have useful visibility, but powerful components are large and drain batteries quickly.
2. The device must be able to withstand repeated recoil as well as any reasonable shocks that it may undergo, such as being dropped.

Both 1 and 2 require a large device, with heavy batteries, and a thick heavy case. But...

1. Must be lightweight and compact. OK, easy, start using surface mount boards instead of through hole, and size goes down by about 60%, plus it can be more energy efficient. Sweet! But surface mounting is hard. (You solder capacitors the size of the head of a pin with your bare hands.) And even then you have limited space, the hardest thing to do in electronics, is make everything fit in as small an area as possible.
2. Has to have good controls. You think that giant push button on the $10 flashlight, right in the back, is the best option for a weapon light that will have the back against a trigger guard? Do we all have the finger length of an ape to reach past the trigger guard while maintaining control of the gun? No, and someone was paid good money to figure out what would work.
3. Alignment. Why are O/U guns so expensive? Because aligning the barrels properly takes time and money. Your light is off a little? Fine, I didn't need to see the target clearly to identify them as a threat or no. Your laser is off? It's a sight, it better be adjusted properly. Oh, and adjusting the alignment on a light or laser by the user means more engineering in the design.
4. CPUs/Programming. Ever seen a light or laser with a strobe function? They have a CPU, and have to be programmed. Adding a CPU means a complete redesign of the system (Usually a good thing, they are very efficient for their size/power use.), plus, someone has to right a program for it to work properly.
5. Interference. This is the big one. Put as many electronic components and a CPU in the smallest box you can cram them into, and turn it on. It won't work. Each component will have electric interference that will destroy the function of what you made. Not to mention outside interference.

So someone got paid a lot to figure out how to make something that works as small and light as possible, while being powerful and tough. Then it was made to very high standards using not so cheap components on not so cheap machinery. And no one builds anything to loose money.

Your $10 light is like comparing a canoe to a cruise ship when next to a weapon light. That's why they cost so much.

Credits:Reddit

 

[tusharfoxtrot]

Is this river Pangong tso or Galwan? Or some other??

Pangong tso

 

[rkhanna]

No, I agree I was asking about the indira gandhi analogy?

During emergency Indira Gandhi asked the army to support 'law and order' the army refused. COAS Gen Raina ordered his soldiers to stay away from politics and that Army was not involved in the emergency.

When the Foreign Press called Indira a dictator we were the only "dictatorship" in modern history where the Army played zero role.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

During emergency Indira Gandhi asked the army to support 'law and order' the army refused. COAS Gen Raina ordered his soldiers to stay away from politics and that Army was not involved in the emergency.

When the Foreign Press called Indira a dictator we were the only "dictatorship" in modern history where the Army played zero role.

Gen Raina is the same person who commanded a brigade in Chushul of which 13 Kumaon (maj Shaitaan Singh) was a part in 1962?

 

[rkhanna]

Gen Raina is the same person who commanded a brigade in Chushul of which 13 Kumaon (maj Shaitaan Singh) was a part in 1962?

Yes sir, where he earned his MVC. And PVC (for me) for telling IG to piss off

 

[ManhattanProject]

Elite team..
My only question is why all 6 are operating the same gun !!!!!

1) 2 elites can have TAR
2) 2 can have M16 or AK
3) 1 can have SVD or Galil.
4) 1 can have SAW or LMG.

This are just my thoughts

yeah lets all operate with different calibres.