Indian Special Forces

[abingdonboy]

MARCOs SWAT

Barely any changes in the last ~10 years

India's sea lions: Navy's marine commandos get a makeover and reveal a leaner and meaner new look

The Indian Navy's elite marine commandos, Marcos, have undergone a makeover. Members of a Marco stick - eightmember quick reaction teams of the force - were seen in the new gear while on ship-protection duty aboard the guided stealth frigate INS Sahyadri during its commissioning last week in Mumbai.

www.dailymail.co.uk

But hey they bought 6-12 sets of COMTACs for (some) foreign exs

even their weapon handling looks amateurish here+ elbow pads and improperly placed thigh holsters. Most armed police units in major cities look a LOT more squared away

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[SUPERPOWER]

Your wish my command sir

I feel like marcos standing naked when compared to US marine

 

[Meal Team 6]

I feel like marcos standing naked when compared to US marine

Where did US marine came from ?
Bhai photoshoot hai, itna kyun soch rha hai.

 

[abingdonboy]

Welp, I guess IA got what they wanted, every soldier is now SF

 

[Scramjet]

Welp, I guess IA got what they wanted, every soldier is now SF

Incoming Rant》

The unit in this video was previously an regular para unit.
These [insert a very respectable gaali] people wanted everything that a para commando had including the perks, tavors and a major chunk of the pride. These guys are the ones that people on this forum stereotype as super commando woohah tavor type dudes. Their mindset is reflecting in their kits. The fact that the older original units don't have these many shiny new flat-top tavors, ACHs, load vests with pockets instead of molle webbing and basic stuff like that.
Many respectable units have learnt a lot along the way and have tried to procure stuff according to their needs while some other units wanted nothing but the name and fame that came with the coveted balidan.
Citing an SF vet- these airborne units used to have a 18-20 day selection period, the ones with inflated ego had something on the lines of newer SF units while the original SF units ran selection based on their experience and used to be 6 months in duration in different phases.
They try to equate themselves with para SF under the guise of their CI/CT and conventional war acts.

 

[Tactical Doge]

Welp, I guess IA got what they wanted, every soldier is now SF

imho the infantry looks better, they be having those helmet condoms and shiiet

 

[abingdonboy]

imho the infantry looks better, they be having those helmet condoms and shiiet

Also having the AR pattern rifles alongside the Tavor just makes the latter look hilariously out of place for a combat unit (tavor is a good system but on the whole it is a failed experiment)

Incoming Rant》

The unit in this video was previously an regular para unit.
These [insert a very respectable gaali] people wanted everything that a para commando had including the perks, tavors and a major chunk of the pride. These guys are the ones that people on this forum stereotype as super commando woohah tavor type dudes. Their mindset is reflecting in their kits. The fact that the older original units don't have these many shiny new flat-top tavors, ACHs, load vests with pockets instead of molle webbing and basic stuff like that.
Many respectable units have learnt a lot along the way and have tried to procure stuff according to their needs while some other units wanted nothing but the name and fame that came with the coveted balidan.
Citing an SF vet- these airborne units used to have a 18-20 day selection period, the ones with inflated ego had something on the lines of newer SF units while the original SF units ran selection based on their experience and used to be 6 months in duration in different phases.
They try to equate themselves with para SF under the guise of their CI/CT and conventional war acts.

over the years you’d regularly see retired airborne guys and some infantrymen declaring SF and airborne were one and the same. Then when the airborne—>SF conversion was revealed they were overjoyed

clearly SF culture never existed inside the IA nor was there ever any understanding of what an SF is. Everything crappy we see ok the ground stems from this. And this is why no amount of ‘wait and see’ ‘things will get better’ will work. This is a systematic issue that needs to be resolved at the very top

for as long as the para regiment exists as it does today the IA has no SF, something new needs to be carved out but this would require the current crop who mastered this plan to admit they were wrong, doubtful such egos would ever tolerate it

 

[Scramjet]

Also having the AR pattern rifles alongside the Tavor just makes the latter look hilariously out of place for a combat unit (tavor is a good system but on the whole it is a failed experiment)

over the years you’d regularly see retired airborne guys and some infantrymen declaring SF and airborne were one and the same. Then when the airborne—>SF conversion was revealed they were overjoyed

clearly SF culture never existed inside the IA nor was there ever any understanding of what an SF is. Everything crappy we see ok the ground stems from this. And this is why no amount of ‘wait and see’ ‘things will get better’ will work. This is a systematic issue that needs to be resolved at the very top

for as long as the para regiment exists as it does today the IA has no SF, something new needs to be carved out but this would require the current crop who mastered this plan to admit they were wrong, doubtful such egos would ever tolerate it

These very airborne officers are the ones responsible for sabotaging the fabric of IA's SOF capabilities. Especially the retd. Lobby of these airborne generals. They wanted a complete control over AFSOD too....lo and behold the current officer in cmd of afsod is a maj gen from 7 para.
These guys should start their own political party.

 

[Waanar]

So, had a conversation with a guy from a maritime SOF unit (non-Indian) and he basically told me that sometimes they would wear those ol, granny-esque cheap shoes without socks when doing beach landings and ditch them because they didn't want their boots or socks getting wet.

This may be an explanation for why MARCOS were doing that beach landing demo with those atrocious shoes a few weeks back.

 

[Spadex]

Good boy !

 

[ManhattanProject]

I think the whole problem is who we compare ourselves to..the greeks compare themselves to the turkish the Australians do it with the US etc. We compare ourselves to the fucking pakistanis .
Hence we do gullati on the firing range. This is a mental problem

 

[ManhattanProject]

I think the whole problem is who we compare ourselves to..the greeks compare themselves to the turkish the Australians do it with the US etc. We compare ourselves to the fucking pakistanis .
Hence we do gullati on the firing range. This is a mental problem

I dont understand, what does the combat gulati achieve?

 

[DumbPilot]

I dont understand, what does the combat gulati achieve?

special skillz demonstration

 

[ManhattanProject]

special skillz demonstration

Yes but will you ever combat gulati into a room with terrorists inside? Is it legit tactic or is it done for show..if its the latter i have little hope for our armed forces.

 

[DumbPilot]

Yes but will you ever combat gulati into a room with terrorists inside? Is it legit tactic or is it done for show..if its the latter i have little hope for our armed forces.

I mean, I think it has its places where it could be used. As for the rest, I don't really know

 

[ManhattanProject]

I think the whole problem is who we compare ourselves to..the greeks compare themselves to the turkish the Australians do it with the US etc. We compare ourselves to the fucking pakistanis .
Hence we do gullati on the firing range. This is a mental problem

Its so sad that their propaganda and ours are the same. Its a disgrace, we think we are superior but we are the same which is disgusting.

 

[ManhattanProject]

I mean, I think it has its places where it could be used. As for the rest, I don't really know

Where can you combat gulati? tell me.

 

[DumbPilot]

Where can you combat gulati? tell me.

I don't know specifically to be honest. Maybe learning how to do a gulati can help someplace someday, but I can't immediately find anything which can be helped by learning a gulati

 

[JConline]

Its so sad that their propaganda and ours are the same. Its a disgrace, we think we are superior but we are the same which is disgusting.

Not really. The Indian Armed Forces propaganda has really changed a lot over the past few years. Admittedly, there will be some cheesy clips in some cross training videos but otherwise, it's a lot more professional than the goat-fuckers across the LOC. The Indian Forces seem a lot more squared of than what they used to be. Atleast the infantry and some SF units are.
As for the stark difference in kit between some MARCOS demonstrations and others, I think it's a matter of priority. The better team, gets the better equipment first. What's good is that there is some will to be better equipped than our primary foes and regular exercises with Western militaries has helped a lot. I don't think the Indian decision makers so much concerned about Pakistan as they are about China. And that requires a lot more in terms of strategy and equipment (personal and otherwise) and that's showing.