Indian Special Forces

[Blademaster]

I am beginning to think you dont understand how gender works. Do you have any idea how much weaker woman are compared to men? I am talking about the science here, not being sexist. Do you have difficulty understanding the difference of strength between two different men? Do you not understand the difference of strength between 2 men and a man vs woman is enormous?
i am out of my wits here..

Oh yes I very much know and understand how gender works and how much of a physical strength advantage males have over females. That is not in question. I do not think that females could ever equal males in physical strength and other physical attributes but you are still not getting my point.

A society that has figured out how to make superior physical strength as a non relevant attribute in the selection of recruits for its military and still be very combat effective against other armies will be superior to a society that has not figured that part out and still rely on superior physical strength as a necessary & relevant attribute in the selection of recruits for its military in order to remain combat effective. And today western societies are trying to figure that out and when they do, they will reign supreme over societies that have not.

When I say reign supreme I am talking about in the face of technological advances and innovation that basically allows that society to impose its will upon another society like the Romans and the Mongols did.

 

[abingdonboy]

Oh yes I very much know and understand how gender works and how much of a physical strength advantage males have over females. That is not in question. I do not think that females could ever equal males in physical strength and other physical attributes but you are still not getting my point.

A society that has figured out how to make superior physical strength as a non relevant attribute in the selection of recruits for its military and still be very combat effective against other armies will be superior to a society that has not figured that part out and still rely on superior physical strength as a necessary & relevant attribute in the selection of recruits for its military in order to remain combat effective. And today western societies are trying to figure that out and when they do, they will reign supreme over societies that have not.

When I say reign supreme I am talking about in the face of technological advances and innovation that basically allows that society to impose its will upon another society like the Romans and the Mongols did.

Again word salad.

this move isn’t coming because india has mastered exoskeleton or created a super soldier doping program. It’s being done in 2021-2022 with the current crop of ineligible women purely at the behest of political masters. There’s NO justification for it as of today.

Appeasement is appeasement. Other countries did years of studies before they thought about this and the limited it. Some meta or babu wakes up and thinks india needs women commandos and it happens. Have to accept Indian military will never be Western in mentality or capabilities. This is some third world circus cr@p designed purely for photoshoots and not effectiveness.

 

[Anirbann Datta]

Again word salad.

this move isn’t coming because india has mastered exoskeleton or created a super soldier doping program. It’s being done in 2021-2022 with the current crop of ineligible women purely at the behest of political masters. There’s NO justification for it as of today.

Appeasement is appeasement. Other countries did years of studies before they thought about this and the limited it. Some meta or babu wakes up and thinks india needs women commandos and it happens. Have to accept Indian military will never be Western in mentality or capabilities. This is some third world circus cr@p designed purely for photoshoots and not effectiveness.

frankly speaking,
It has numerous times already posted by various members in this or forum threads about the physiological stress factor impact in active combat or in deputed soldiers ( male/females).
A 55-65 kg woman( Indian stranded ) of 5'-7" average height can lift a fellow injured teammate, but can she keep it up with added 30kg backpack along with that injured mate ( male- 80 kg give or take, female- 55-65 kg,, his or her combat load another 30ish kg extra) and climb 5 ft wall or trek upor down hill some kms to safe zone?
If she can... all well and good...
But, I think, GOI should give it a try, deploy some female SF in some active combat scenarios, evaluate their performance when the casualties pour in.
Soldiers, specially SF needs extreme physical fitness with nerve of steel, which generally most of the males and 99.9% of females on this planet lacks.

 

[Love Charger]

frankly speaking,
It has numerous times already posted by various members in this or forum threads about the physiological stress factor impact in active combat or in deputed soldiers ( male/females).
A 55-65 kg woman( Indian stranded ) of 5'-7" average height can lift a fellow injured teammate, but can she keep it up with added 30kg backpack along with that injured mate ( male- 80 kg give or take, female- 55-65 kg,, his or her combat load another 30ish kg extra) and climb 5 ft wall or trek upor down hill some kms to safe zone?
If she can... all well and good...
But, I think, GOI should give it a try, deploy some female SF in some active combat scenarios, evaluate their performance when the casualties pour in.
Soldiers, specially SF needs extreme physical fitness with nerve of steel, which generally most of the males and 99.9% of females on this planet lacks.

Deploy them at arty fire bases and front line bunkers at loc , the ones targeted by BAT and others haramis .
Then we will see.

 

[JConline]

frankly speaking,
It has numerous times already posted by various members in this or forum threads about the physiological stress factor impact in active combat or in deputed soldiers ( male/females).
A 55-65 kg woman( Indian stranded ) of 5'-7" average height can lift a fellow injured teammate, but can she keep it up with added 30kg backpack along with that injured mate ( male- 80 kg give or take, female- 55-65 kg,, his or her combat load another 30ish kg extra) and climb 5 ft wall or trek upor down hill some kms to safe zone?
If she can... all well and good...
But, I think, GOI should give it a try, deploy some female SF in some active combat scenarios, evaluate their performance when the casualties pour in.
Soldiers, specially SF needs extreme physical fitness with nerve of steel, which generally most of the males and 99.9% of females on this planet lacks.

The experimental aspect of it is not the problem. The problem is that to carry out this experiment, they have to deployed among hardcore men, for whom she will become a liability. God forbid, good men lose their lives trying to protect their female SF colleagues. The only way I can see female soldiers in SF is to make whole separate female units with lower standards and give them security or bodyguard duties. Cause you're only as strong as the weakest member in your team and you're only as fast as the slowest member in your team, and Indian SF donot need to be bogged down by the basic differences in strength defined by biology.
Oh and please don't come crying about enhancing female soldiers with drugs. That is as impractical as it can get. The only way that is possible would be to neuter (pardon my language) these female SF operatives and then put them on Ronnie Coleman's steroid cycle. And that ain't happening. The female operatives themselves won't agree for it.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Lets start off by asking Woman cadets in OTA to lift actual RL and rounds for cross country first and not the cheap light weight dummy.

 

[ManhattanProject]

frankly speaking,
It has numerous times already posted by various members in this or forum threads about the physiological stress factor impact in active combat or in deputed soldiers ( male/females).
A 55-65 kg woman( Indian stranded ) of 5'-7" average height can lift a fellow injured teammate, but can she keep it up with added 30kg backpack along with that injured mate ( male- 80 kg give or take, female- 55-65 kg,, his or her combat load another 30ish kg extra) and climb 5 ft wall or trek upor down hill some kms to safe zone?
If she can... all well and good...
But, I think, GOI should give it a try, deploy some female SF in some active combat scenarios, evaluate their performance when the casualties pour in.
Soldiers, specially SF needs extreme physical fitness with nerve of steel, which generally most of the males and 99.9% of females on this planet lacks.

"GOI should give it a try, deploy some female SF in some active combat scenarios, evaluate their performance when the casualties pour in." This will be very dangerous, this is not a game where you are just playing around doing experiments. In a simulated situation its fine but in real life war you cant take risks like that, it will only lead to casualties.

 

[ManhattanProject]

Oh yes I very much know and understand how gender works and how much of a physical strength advantage males have over females. That is not in question. I do not think that females could ever equal males in physical strength and other physical attributes but you are still not getting my point.

A society that has figured out how to make superior physical strength as a non relevant attribute in the selection of recruits for its military and still be very combat effective against other armies will be superior to a society that has not figured that part out and still rely on superior physical strength as a necessary & relevant attribute in the selection of recruits for its military in order to remain combat effective. And today western societies are trying to figure that out and when they do, they will reign supreme over societies that have not.

When I say reign supreme I am talking about in the face of technological advances and innovation that basically allows that society to impose its will upon another society like the Romans and the Mongols did.

Yes maybe in 500 years, lets keep women out of war untill then.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Its not Indian military its the fucking culture these days..

In my company a woman gets pregnant and gets 3 years paid leave..

And i broke my foot representating the Company in a sports tournament and you know what i got... Ghanta.

They took all my leaves.. i worked for an year without leaves... took all my sick leaves .. so now when i report sick my salary gets cut.

So getting pregnant and milking the company for 3 years is cool... Representating the company and getting injured for a month or so is not cool.

This is the new equality we are getting.


Same way woman officers milk the government.. most people with family and friends know and i wont comment.

Unfortunately a precise Arm of the Military is going down the drain.

 

[abingdonboy]

Its not Indian military its the fucking culture these days..

In my company a woman gets pregnant and gets 3 years paid leave..

And i broke my foot representating the Company in a sports tournament and you know what i got... Ghanta.

They took all my leaves.. i worked for an year without leaves... took all my sick leaves .. so now when i report sick my salary gets cut.

So getting pregnant and milking the company for 3 years is cool... Representating the company and getting injured for a month or so is not cool.

This is the new equality we are getting.


Same way woman officers milk the government.. most people with family and friends know and i wont comment.

Unfortunately a precise Arm of the Military is going down the drain.

100%.

Cultural marxism, they want equality of outcome not equality of opportunity

some SJW/weak politician/executive looks at a spreadsheet and declares they want x% of women just to make them feel good, the end result is….

aviation is a decent enough example, for some reason getting women into aviation has become a big thing because it’s ‘too’ male dominated, so what have they had to do? Lower entry requirements, offer funding exclusively for women to avail of etc etc

One thing I have noticed that I’m not sure is widely reported is that a significant number of women ‘firsts’ end in disaster, the first female USN carrier combat pilot, France’s first female CPL holder, PAF’s first female fighter pilot etc etc

It’s not about women hating, it’s about standards and enforcing them regardless of immutable characteristics. But that’s not the world we live in, merit is a secondary concern

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Anyone can translate the main points he says

 

[Inderjeet Singh]

Old but Gold

 

[kaboom]

pkm with a LAM ?

 

[Aditya Ballal]

pkm with a LAM ?

Isn’t that an Aussie FN MAG?

 

[Meal Team 6]

pkm with a LAM ?

That retraction to high ready was too smooth for it to be random , someone is teaching them retraction and stances also notice the house they are doing the drill in looks very similar to the one we saw during old vajra-prahar between 3 Para sf and green berets.
Maybe 3 was involved in some way ?

 

[ManhattanProject]

That retraction to high ready was too smooth for it to be random , someone is teaching them retraction and stances also notice the house they are doing the drill in looks very similar to the one we saw during old vajra-prahar between 3 Para sf and green berets.
Maybe 3 was involved in some way ?

No Australians probably taught them on the spot after being flagged a bunch of times.

 

[Scramjet]

That retraction to high ready was too smooth for it to be random , someone is teaching them retraction and stances also notice the house they are doing the drill in looks very similar to the one we saw during old vajra-prahar between 3 Para sf and green berets.
Maybe 3 was involved in some way ?

It's in mahajan firing fields, even 10 para SF holds excercises over there regularly. Also, speaking of CQB dynamics, ghataks are being more regularly trained by Para SF since they are expanding their roles. SF involvement in the ex. is highly likely, but it'd be a minor one considering the size of formations on both the sides.

 

[Scramjet]

No Australians probably taught them on the spot after being flagged a bunch of times.

Arrey bhaiya! plate carrier, helmet, weapons, bartan aur kapde bhi toh australians laaye the hamare liye.

 

[Kumaoni]

frankly speaking,
It has numerous times already posted by various members in this or forum threads about the physiological stress factor impact in active combat or in deputed soldiers ( male/females).
A 55-65 kg woman( Indian stranded ) of 5'-7" average height can lift a fellow injured teammate, but can she keep it up with added 30kg backpack along with that injured mate ( male- 80 kg give or take, female- 55-65 kg,, his or her combat load another 30ish kg extra) and climb 5 ft wall or trek upor down hill some kms to safe zone?
If she can... all well and good...
But, I think, GOI should give it a try, deploy some female SF in some active combat scenarios, evaluate their performance when the casualties pour in.
Soldiers, specially SF needs extreme physical fitness with nerve of steel, which generally most of the males and 99.9% of females on this planet lacks.

Not tryna be that guy, but females simply cannot compete with males in the battlefield.

 

[Kumaoni]

An average 15 year old angry teenager from a high school break up would defeat a grown woman 9/10 times in a fight. I myself have sparred several females boxing, and have pulled punches back, and this was when I was 16.

It’s crazy, we live in such times of peace where feminists are genuinely delusional and they think they can fight a man. Good lord lol.