Indian Special Forces

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Goatfucker whose resting in hell right now

So ya whats wrong in beheading those incivilised imbeciles who carried out it in the first place.

And most of you wont know but more than Para the Naga regtt was feared coz of the "claim" by goat fuckers that Naga regtt makes biryani and kebab out of jihadis and eats them.

 

[STORE]

Is this talk about the hindu killings revenge beheading of Paki civilians or Revenge of beheading carried out on loc by the goat fucker who was awarded by Musharraf..

Well I was talking about beheadings in military as not of any specific incident.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Well I was talking about beheadings in military as not of any specific incident.

Bro think of it from a psychological point of view.

How will you motivate your troops if you are in a shit pool and you cannot get dirty

 

[abingdonboy]

The comparison of what Paras did during Apache and what US units did is rather stupid. It's not like Afghans were attacking US civilians on US soil. On the other hand, Paras beheaded the Pakistanis to send the message across that your brutality will be paid back in kind.

Most of such gnarly executions and theatrical brutality that our SOFs do has had a purpose, the purpose being the dissuasion of attack on innocents (and revenge for mutilated troopers).
On the other hand, what US did was invade Afghan/Iraqi homeland, killed their people and start having competitions on the number of kills they could manage, start using their unit specific symbolic weapons like hatchets to mutilate bodies and overall being a steaming pile of shit human beings.

There's a difference between purposeful carnage for causes close to the heart when left with no other option and psychosis induced brutality for the sake of being brutal.

How well did USA's troops mutilating dead bodies serve their hearts and minds mission in Afghanistan?
It was a counterproductive move, was it not?

On the other hand, our troops weren't trying to win any hearts in Pakistan. What they did was dissuade the Pakistanis. Purposeful violence and messaging.

Psyops =/= Sadism.

There’s no black and white here, no good guys and bad guys. You ask these men to kill for you, don’t be surprised to hear of such stories- it happens in every single conflict you can name and it would be naive to pretend that brutality of one side is only
Employed as a calibrated tactic.

+ almost all the claims of mutilations involving NATO SFs were not against civilians but enemy fighters. Have we not regularly seen security forces in JK ‘desecrating’ (some would call if that, I think it’s fair enough) the bodies of Jihadis and parading them around? Who knows what happens on the frontiers when the SF boys are on their own.

Young aggressive men will always be dangerous, just hope you have more on your side than the other side does.

 

[Kumaoni]

There’s no black and white here, no good guys and bad guys. You ask these men to kill for you, don’t be surprised to hear of such stories- it happens in every single conflict you can name and it would be naive to pretend that brutality of one side is only
Employed as a calibrated tactic.

+ almost all the claims of mutilations involving NATO SFs were not against civilians but enemy fighters. Have we not regularly seen security forces in JK ‘desecrating’ (some would call if that, I think it’s fair enough) the bodies of Jihadis and parading them around? Who knows what happens on the frontiers when the SF boys are on their own.

Young aggressive men will always be dangerous, just hope you have more on your side than the other side does.

Those aren’t Jihadis but proper paki army regulars

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Watch from 2:55

It is how it is.

 

[abingdonboy]

Those aren’t Jihadis but proper paki army regulars

What’s the difference?

 

[jai jaganath]

What’s the difference?

Moreover they love their jihadi mindset and behavior but cry when someone other same to them true meleechas

 

[abingdonboy]

Scalping dead bodies isn't a good military policy, especially when the military is trying to "win hearts and minds".
That was the US policy, wasn't it?
When soldiers start doing stuff which hurts your own military's strategy, it's called a rogue act.
A rogue act usually is considered unprofessional by any military.
My heart goes out to any soldier scarred by war to the point of doing such twisted acts but that doesn't make it right.

Instead of throwing insults, consider talking like an adult.

Actually this is a bit of a liberal way of looking at it. What does winning hearts and minds mean? In a place as backwards and tribalistic as Afghanistan it means being the meanest guy around that the civilians will seek security from.

I’ve heard more than a few western SOF guys saying they had to to put the Taliban in their place and show them they were fighting guys as tough and dangerous as them- sure that’s macho talk and obviously they didn’t go to the same levels of brutality as the Taliban did but at the same time they couldn’t just play mr nice guy with them. This is the real world where men operate, not university lecture halls or legislature conference rooms

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

There’s no black and white here, no good guys and bad guys. You ask these men to kill for you, don’t be surprised to hear of such stories- it happens in every single conflict you can name and it would be naive to pretend that brutality of one side is only
Employed as a calibrated tactic.

+ almost all the claims of mutilations involving NATO SFs were not against civilians but enemy fighters. Have we not regularly seen security forces in JK ‘desecrating’ (some would call if that, I think it’s fair enough) the bodies of Jihadis and parading them around? Who knows what happens on the frontiers when the SF boys are on their own.

Young aggressive men will always be dangerous, just hope you have more on your side than the other side does.

.........besides the trauma of war and the seperation from family... the living away from civilization for months.. creates that kind of mindset that all you want is to win.

That is why in these things i am always behind our soldiers because it easy to talk from here.

 

[STORE]

Bro think of it from a psychological point of view.

How will you motivate your troops if you are in a shit pool and you cannot get dirty

Yes there is truth in tht. All am saying is, it should not be normalized.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Yes there is truth in tht. All am saying is, it should not be normalized.

We cannot do anything if its a islamic or taliban way of doing things and thats where they are trained.

Those days of knights and rajputs and their chivalry is gone.

Enemy is from a different community.

 

[abingdonboy]

Would u say the same if a paki or chini does it to our soldier or to our family. Always think in both ways. No need to take pride in beheadings, u should be proud of winning the battle. beheading someone who is dead or surrendered is not gonna change or send the kind of message u think, it just shows u don't take POW's and it's better to fight till their death rather than being brutally killed. It's just gonna lead to revenge and give us reputation of a barbaric army like turks and azeris. Wht do u achieve by beheading? Satisfaction? if so, how long will it last? U call others armchair exfarts, r u an exfart in beheadings? Have u been beheaded before ?

Completely different

unformed soldiers fighting one another are compelled to abide by the Geneva convention and there is honour in that. What the pakis get up to has no honour- sneaking in in civilian clothes, hiding in amongst the local populace and refusing to even claim their dead. POWs have legal rights, terrorists and non-uniformed irregulars do not

 

[abingdonboy]

.........besides the trauma of war and the seperation from family... the living away from civilization for months.. creates that kind of mindset that all you want is to win.

That is why in these things i am always behind our soldiers because it easy to talk from here.

Listen to some of the top tier western SF guys- they’ve spent the equivalent of a decade of their lives as the tip of the spear. I don’t think any generation of soldiers in human history has had a similar period of intense warfare. Even Indian security forces generally have less time in actual combat- few spend their entire careers in these combat deployments

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Listen to some of the top tier western SF guys- they’ve spent the equivalent of a decade of their lives as the tip of the spear. I don’t think any generation of soldiers in human history has had a similar period of intense warfare. Even Indian security forces generally have less time in actual combat- few spend their entire careers in these combat deployments

9 Para/SG/ and JAKLI/JAKRIF units are 90% in combat.

 

[STORE]

Completely different

unformed soldiers fighting one another are compelled to abide by the Geneva convention and there is honour in that. What the pakis get up to has no honour- sneaking in in civilian clothes, hiding in amongst the local populace and refusing to even claim their dead. POWs have legal rights, terrorists and non-uniformed irregulars do not

my context was about a actual war situation between countries. thts why am talking about POW's, Pak and China. I don't care about the rights of Pak terrorists or wht we do to them.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[abingdonboy]

So they have the money for new rifles but they are just doubling down on the clumsy bull pups? Yeah X95 is a more refunded product than the original Tars but it’s still a downgrade on a conventional modern day SBR

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

So they have the money for new rifles but they are just doubling down on the clumsy bull pups? Yeah X95 is a more refunded product than the original Tars but it’s still a downgrade on a conventional modern day SBR

Seems like they all love bull pups little too much