Indian Special Forces (archived)

[JayATL]

Spec ops raid into Afghanistan

that's right. that's why people at you guys... the concept of special ops raid on a cave like afgahnistan is not possible by India. US did it into Pakistan , Israelis ( 1/10000 of your size) do it / done it many times. But you guys keep ya " chalte hai" Chia peeoh" attitude going.

 

[JayATL]

Yes, jesus-freaking yes. This one line shows your level of IQ.

In Entebbe the Israelis flew over the ocean whereby no overflight permission was required..

as I said take out your high school geography map or better still ask me.

MY IQ? you want to challenge it? It was you said " sniff sniff we had no permission from Pak and Iran".... that has nothing to do with the entebee route ( my statement). Its a stand alone question... a question that challenges your IQ when you think that getting to afghanistan, a freaking cave, backward ass country--- is / was impossible to get to by the Indian military because sniff sniff two freaking countries would not allow you to fly over it.

 

[KS]

So next time when the tangos hijack a plane you expect the govt to do the same?
If we had used any counter measures then it would have sent a string message to the whole world that we are not gonna to bow before any sort of threats.
Considring the risk of lives of soldiers during all the wars we deployed the men with the full knowledge that some of them are not gonna to came alive and we deployed them so that we had to upheld our national pride.

Different case..lemme give you an analogy...do you ask a common CRPF troop to do a para drop over enemy territory and induge in sabotage just because he has a gun and ammo ?

No..thats the job of the Para SF to do...not the common CRPF jawan...

Understand... the CISF was in no position to assume the role of the NSG..it would have been as disastorous as asking the CRPF to assume the role of Para SF

Govt was the one to be blamed for not sending the NSG there on time and delaying the departure from delhi on time if it was the reason.

How can the Govt be blamed for NSG getting caught in trafffic ? Do enlighten me.

 

[KS]

MY IQ? you want to challenge it? It was you said " sniff sniff we had no permission from Pak and Iran".... that has nothing to do with the entebee route ( my statement). Its a stand alone question... a question that challenges your IQ when you thinkgetting to afghanistan , a freaking cave , backward ass country--- is / was impossible to get to by the Indian military because sniff sniff two freaking countries would not allow you to fly over it.

Yes...do you want us to start a war with Pakistan for this sake ?...and I have already told you we did not have A2A refuellers for the whole journey...how hard is for you to understand that ?

Ok since you seem to be the self-declared SEAL here..lemme ask you how do you do that...violating the airspace of a nuclear armed country to reach Afghanistan (and its Kandahar in the south-eastern part)?


here is a map for you...tell me how come you wil reach Afghanistan if not for Pakistan/Iran...I assume China is even out of consideration..

 

[mayfair]

The Americans paid in excess of $4.5 million to get their man Raymod Davis out of Pakistan...

Israel freed in excess of 1000 Palestinians for one soldier...

No special ops done by Britain when their naval personnel were captured by Iran a few years ago...

Hardly recall the special ops by US to free a couple of US journalists among others held captive by North Korea..

 

[LurkerBaba]

and has no trust in its militray and fears that " principle of never giving into terrorists" is not worth over the optics of 200 coming home for vote banking.

For starters...Jaswant Singh was an officer in the Indian Army. Rest of your post is an ignorant rant

that's right. that's why people at you guys... the concept of special ops raid on a cave like afgahnistan is not possible by India. US did it into Pakistan , Israelis ( 1/10000 of your size) do it / done it many times. But you guys keep ya " chalte hai" Chia peeoh" attitude going.

USA has military bases in Pakistan. You expect Indian force to fly over Pak and enter Afghanistan ?

 

[KS]

do you even know about how big the target is with them sitting all around to be taken out by snipers.

Snipers from where ?..from Pathallok ?...you are bumbling again

 

[JayATL]

you are proving our ignorance again and again..


It was during the NDA regime the ecoonmy actually begin to take off on a brisk pace...also I''ll give you a hint..look up the corresponding inflation figures in NDA and UP regimes.



Ignorance and more ignorance....credit for the nuke deal goes in this order...Bushy, Natwar Singh, Amar Singh, and Manmohan Singh..

Amar Singh because if not for his cash-for-votes the Govt would have fell like a pack of cards.


And yeah one friggin sucess in 7 years..What a god sent achievement. !.

gimme a break. this why you BJP fanboys get laughed out of town by the smart thinkers. you are trying to compare inflation when the country was 1/3 of where it is now... to inflation rates when its is almost 3 x times larger in terms of rising GDP .

And I never get his idiotic logic. when anything good happens it in not because of the leader of the party who had the final decesion to make it happen with it comes to congress. But if anything happens good by BJP ... stop the press ! it's that great leadership they have!

it was MMS's call and as a party they got behind it while your dumb , short sighted BJP ralied against it... thats a fact you cannot spin away!

 

[KS]

The Americans paid in excess of $4.5 million to get their man Raymod Davis out of Pakistan...

Israel freed in excess of 1000 Palestinians for one soldier...

No special ops done by Britain when their naval personnel were captured by Iran a few years ago...

Hardly recall the special ops by US to free a couple of US journalists among others held captive by North Korea..

LOL the hyper power is negotiating with Afghanistan , wannabe actually, gives his lecture about no negotiation with terrorists.

 

[JayATL]

For starters...Jaswant Singh was an officer in the Indian Army. Rest of your post is an ignorant rant




USA has military bases in Pakistan. You expect Indian force to fly over Pak and enter Afghanistan ?

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[ALBY]

Different case..lemme give you an analogy...do you ask a common CRPF troop to do a para drop over enemy territory and induge in sabotage just because he has a gun and ammo ?

No..thats the job of the Para SF to do...not the common CRPF jawan...

Understand... the CISF was in no position to assume the role of the NSG..it would have been as disastorous as asking the CRPF to assume the role of Para SF



How can the Govt be blamed for NSG getting caught in trafffic ? Do enlighten me.

Sending NSG to deal with a hostage crisis through busy streets of amritsar .wow what an idea.Was there no choppers there in New delhi to send those choppers ?
If they had reached the airport in time rescue was possible remember they had done it before in 1993 in the same Amritsar in operation aswamedha and illed down the kashmiri terrorist with out even gaving him a chance to react

 

[LurkerBaba]

The Americans paid in excess of $4.5 million to get their man Raymod Davis out of Pakistan...

Israel freed in excess of 1000 Palestinians for one soldier...

No special ops done by Britain when their naval personnel were captured by Iran a few years ago...

Hardly recall the special ops by US to free a couple of US journalists among others held captive by North Korea..

USA gives aid to the Pakistani Army. That's probably the best example of a nation negotiating with terrorists

 

[KS]

gimme a break. this why you BJP fanboys get laughed out of town by the smart thinkers. you are trying to compare inflation when the country was 1/3 of where it is now... to inflation rates when its is almost 3 x times larger in terms of rising GDP .

......

rants and more rants...and and what a great justification for the inflation rates..

BTW isnt this MMS the second best thing known to man kind after sliced bread..so how come he is not being able to control the increasing inflation, fuel prices, food prices, farmer suicides, etc...

 

[JayATL]

LOL the hyper power is negotiating with god-forsaken in Afghanistan to save its hide and the wannabe actually, gives his lecture about no negotiation with terrorists.

more platitudes and stupidity... what's your issue with a country exerting what I dare say more freaking leverage than India does to save its citizens? Iranians even let indian citizens drown to death... because they know and I saw it first hand here, that indians dont protest much ....

 

[KS]

Sending NSG to deal with a hostage crisis through busy streets of amritsar .wow what an idea.Was there no choppers there in New delhi to send those choppers ?ps enlighten me also.

so in four friggin months after assuming power the NDA govt was to have procured choppers for NSG (who even lacked a decent equipment back then) and sent them here ?

dude, please don't argue for the sake of arguing..

We all know it is NOT the job of the Govt to micromanage the NSG, plan the logistics, execution etc...The govt can only give an ordera and its upto the NSG high command to take care of that..

Accept the NSG was in no position to do that that time..and not even now....

 

[KS]

more platitudes and stupidity... what's your issue with a country exerting what I dare say more freaking leverage than India does to save its citizens? Iranians even let indian citizens drown to death... because they know and I saw it first hand here, that indians dont protest much ....

aah getting into Pakistani misconception , are we ?

Stop that, it stinks.

I gave you a map, just tell me how you can posible reach Kandahar skirting Iran & Pakistan.

BTW did you not say the US, the intergalactic superpower never negotiates with terrorists ?..Now negotiating with Taliban ?

 

[LurkerBaba]

Sending NSG to deal with a hostage crisis through busy streets of amritsar .wow what an idea.

Sending NSG by BEST buses during 26/11 ?

btw I'm not blaming Congress, it has more to do with our pathetic infra and bad logistics

 

[JayATL]

rants and more rants...and and what a great justification for the inflation rates..

BTW isnt this MMS the second best thing known to man kind after sliced bread..so how come he is not being able to control the increasing inflation, fuel prices, food prices, farmer suicides, etc...

My rants have facts attached to it.. yours are all freaking platitudes. So now you agree , since you finally asked what the realtionship is between inflation and a fast growing economy, showing you have no bloody clue about. i.e.You just yapped about inflation ignorantly... do you want me to do your homwwork for you and speak about how inflation rises in fast growing economies? and why interest rates is one of the tools used to curb it?

call me your daddy! and I will spend time educating you on basic economics.

 

[ALBY]

Sending NSG by BEST buses during 26/11 ?

btw I'm not blaming Congress, it has more to do with our pathetic infra and bad logistics

Baba am had made it already clear that iam not at all supporting congress in ma previous posts.I was just telling the flaws during the kandahar episode

 

[KS]

My rants have facts attached to it.. yours are all freaking platitudes. So now you agree , since you finally asked what the realtionship is between inflation and a fast growing economy, showing you have no bloody clue about. i.e.You just yapped about inflation ignorantly... do you want me to do your homwwork for you and speak about how inflation rises in fast growing economies? and why interest rates is one of the tools used to curb it?

call me your daddy! and I will spend time educating you on basic economics.

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