Indian Special Forces (archived)

[Galaxy]

Freaking so funny. When every time I challenge any BJP supporter(s) to get specific on issue by issue to show the contrast as called out in my 2 posts above. They all run away like rats in the cellar.

All allegation were replied in complete details. Few in this thread itself. Still, Few Anti-BJP keep posting same thing since they don't have anything else to say or may be they want to hide huge failure of Congress.

Don't challenge wannabe Yankee because whenever you do, your credibility decreases.

 

[Galaxy]

 

[Galaxy]

 

[JayATL]

Already been debunked..but the incredibly gifted 10000 IQ genius comes up with the same argument every now and then.

Seems like Obama was speaking the truth after all !

All allegation were replied in complete details. Few in this thread itself. Still, Few Anti-BJP keep posting same thing since they don't have anything else to say or may be they want to hide huge failure of Congress.

Don't challenge wannabe Yankee because whenever you do, your credibility decreases.

What has been answered ? Other than more platitudes by you two stooges... And Chia Walla gossip . What part of what I stated is debunked... Like that khandhar giving into terrorists episode? Freaking Israelis went into a more dangerous situation at entebee vs give into terrorists.

 

[amitkriit]

Freaking so funny. When every time I challenge any BJP supporter(s) to get specific on issue by issue to show the contrast as called out in my 2 posts above. They all run away like rats in the cellar.

Few people are so brave that they can show their bravery on their own people, knowing that they will not hit back so hard. A few examples:
a) Bangladesh tortured and mutilated several BSF jawans, and later refused to take action against it's officials. BJP government in center caught cold feet and refused to do anything.
b) A small country like Pakistan could muster the guts to launch an invasion inside our territory in 1999, but the BJP government in center kept singing the "peace song" and ran to uncle SAM to broker peace.

I wonder whether it was "lack of courage" or a severe lack of "experience of running a country" which crippled the decision making process.

 

[mayfair]

A small country like Pakistan could muster the guts to launch an invasion inside our territory in 1999, but the BJP government in center kept singing the "peace song" and ran to uncle SAM to broker peace.

Twisting the truth a little are we? Perhaps in your world, Nawaz Sharif of BJP was the PM of India then...

I wonder whether it was "lack of courage" or a severe lack of "experience of running a country" which crippled the decision making process.

Probably. But then I wonder what has crippled the decision making of the present "courageous" and "experienced in running a country" government...

 

[Ray]

I am intrigued to learn that the intelligence had warned.

How is it that none knew that the 111 Bde had moved out?

Moving out of a Bde or an army formation is every easy to detect even by non intelligence agencies.

The ASC contractors would find that the quantity of supplies demand of them to procure dropping, the barracks would not show the same activity and that can be observed since the unit lines do not have fortress type of walls, the stationers would find drop in demand and so on and so forth.

And a Bde is not a small entity in any case.

 

[KS]

What has been answered ?.....What part of what I stated is debunked....

That it was the 'incompetence' of the then NDA Govt which caused Kandahar.

.... Freaking Israelis went into a more dangerous situation at entebee vs give into terrorists.

ABCD..you are only proving Obama is correct.

 

[Ray]

Israeli Mossad takes on terrorist leaders and assassinate them.

A Mossad Killing in Dubai

Then, Mahmoud al Mabhouh, the senior Hamas military commander complicit in the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers and instrumental in maintaining a flow of weapons to Hamas in the Gaza Strip, decided to use it as a stop-over. So did a team of assassins who collaboratively pulled off perhaps the most clinical murder Dubai has ever had the umbrage of witnessing on its turf.

Al Mabhouh's actual method of death is unclear. He was either electrocuted, poisoned, strangulated or suffocated. Any permutation or combination of the above. The UAE authorities have little doubt of the identity of the assassins though. Daily newspaper The National quoted Dubai Police flatly noting the political assassination was carried out to a "Mossad method".

Hisham Wyne: A Mossad Killing in Dubai

One can debate how come Dawood and Hafeez Sayyed is not given the same treatment in the same manner as to why India did not emulate Entebbe in Kandahar.

The answer is simple:

India is not Israel!

 

[LurkerBaba]

any police men in amritsar could have atleast fired a shot to the tyres using the victorian era .303s.
there are many army units in amritsar and rest of punjab any one could have shot the planes tyres so that atleast it could not be flown through run way.And 5 tangos with 9mm berettas are not gonna to massacre 200 people in a split second

:shocked:

And if the shots from the victorian era .303s were off the mark and the hit fuel tank instead ?

Retarded arguments being peddled in this thread.

 

[ALBY]

All allegation were replied in complete details. Few in this thread itself. Still, Few Anti-BJP keep posting same thing since they don't have anything else to say or may be they want to hide huge failure of Congress.

Don't challenge wannabe Yankee because whenever you do, your credibility decreases.

galaxy your replies are not at all a clear answers to the questions put up .You and karthik were just bluffing and trolling in the previous pages when we asked about stopping the plane before it moved from amritsar and was merely saying that tangos with pistols would have massacred the full passengers with in a split second of time and you guys even went on to say that tangos would have torched the plane if any attempts to rescue the passengers had done on amritsar.
As the thread is about failures of NDA you are just deviating from the point by bringing the failures of UPA govt to counter the failures of NDA,and t is 100% clear that no one is supporting the UPA either.

 

[KS]

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a) Bangladesh tortured and mutilated several BSF jawans, and later refused to take action against it's officials. BJP government in center caught cold feet and refused to do anything...

that is what is in public domain..one of my close relative is was a commandant (retd) in the 121st Battalion, BSF and he said that of the 25 or so BDR troops involved 8 of them were extradited to India and nothing is known of them ever since..while 2 of the officers were court-martialled..and all this away from the glare of media

also it was only from then that the Govt gave the BSF authority to shoot first & ask question later policy towards BD migrants/trader/smugglers..

b) A small country like Pakistan could muster the guts to launch an invasion inside our territory in 1999, but the BJP government in center kept singing the "peace song" and ran to uncle SAM to broker peace.

never knew Mian Nawaz sharif was a NDA prime minister..

 

[JayATL]

Problem here is also that you guys being a single issue thinkers. If mother Teresa advocated to let kasab live-you guys would disregard the overwhelming work done by her and call her un-Indian .

 

[mayfair]

Problem here is also that you guys being a single issue thinkers. If mother Teresa advocated to let kasab live-you guys would disregard the overwhelming work done by her and call her un-Indian .

Souds very much like most of your posts in this forum, especially on Indo-American relations.

 

[KS]

galaxy your replies are not at all a clear answers to the questions put up .You and karthik were just bluffing and trolling in the previous pages when we asked about stopping the plane before it moved from amritsar and was merely saying that tangos with pistols would have massacred the full passengers with in a split second of time and you guys even went on to say that tangos would have torched the plane if any attempts to rescue the passengers had done on amritsar.
As the thread is about failures of NDA you are just deviating from the point by bringing the failures of UPA govt to counter the failures of NDA,and t is 100% clear that no one is supporting the UPA either.

look I have already said it is not MWIII where anyone with a gun becomes a rambo...hostage rescue and that too in hijack situation demands lots and lots of specialised skills/equipments/experience that the ordinary CISF troop there would not have been able to do jack.

now keep repeating.."shoot the tire..".."tango.."..."automatic gun"..etc..

The truth is without the NSG coming there was absolutely no way the plance could have been stalled without killing the hostages on board..

Anyway you being a die-hard anti-BJP person would not accept these plain facts staring in your face..

And how freaking hard is for you to understand that it was the All Party Meet that authorised the PM to go ahead with the swap and not a unilateral decision by BJP..

 

[KS]

Problem here is also that you guys being a single issue thinkers. If mother Teresa advocated to let kasab live-you guys would disregard the overwhelming work done by her and call her un-Indian .

that's 'factual' rebuttal by a 10,000 IQ I'm-a-genius-in-the-di*k ABCD..? Obama is indeed right.

 

[amitkriit]

:shocked:

And if the shots from the victorian era .303s were off the mark and the hit fuel tank instead ?

Retarded arguments being peddled in this thread.

That would prove the incompetence of our security forces in dealing with the special situations. We cannot take pressure, our courage and self-respect melts under pressure and we become a see-no-evil monkey.

This was how we dealt with Kandahar and Kargil.

Let us look at the 26/11 episode, Pakistani terrorists went on rampage, it took several hours for our authorities to clearly understand the situation, took several more to dispatch the NSG since the local police was not capable enough to deal with the heavily armed terrorists. But even these NSG and MARCOS units were not sufficiently equipped and it took them several days.

And what did we achieve? We are now considered to be a "High Risk" destination by several countries which includes UK, Canada and USA.

 

[JayATL]

Israeli Mossad takes on terrorist leaders and assassinate them.



One can debate how come Dawood and Hafeez Sayyed is not given the same treatment in the same manner as to why India did not emulate Entebbe in Kandahar.

The answer is simple:

India is not Israel!

Ah but why not - are they super humans or is that Indian govt at that time were cowards? I mean really, what is the reason...

I'll tell you why. It's because your Babus have no confidence in their special ops men. Fvuk you even had your air chief insult his own mem, his own men, when he said the reason for mig crashes were because his pilots were inexperience . Even if it was true you never insult your dead pilots memory in public, period

 

[ALBY]

:shocked:

And if the shots from the victorian era .303s were off the mark and the hit fuel tank instead ?

Retarded arguments being peddled in this thread.

baba with all due respects did u ever saw a tyre of a plane ?
A plane's tyre is much more bigger than a card board target used in shooting ranges and if any one missed that much big target then he would be using the gun for first time in his life.and hitting the plane's tyre especially of boeings tyre is not at all a problem.

 

[LurkerBaba]

That would prove the incompetence of our security forces in dealing with the special situations. We cannot take pressure, our courage and self-respect melts under pressure and we become a see-no-evil monkey.

This was how we dealt with Kandahar and Kargil.

Let us look at the 26/11 episode, Pakistani terrorists went on rampage, it took several hours for our authorities to clearly understand the situation, took several more to dispatch the NSG since the local police was not capable enough to deal with the heavily armed terrorists. But even these NSG and MARCOS units were not sufficiently equipped and it took them several days.

And what did we achieve? We are now considered to be a "High Risk" destination by several countries which includes UK, Canada and USA.

Now that is just a generic rant on the state of security forces in India