Indian Special Forces (archived)

[Unknowncommando 2]

3 PARA SF commando
B&T Mp9 suppressed

 

[MuzzleVelocity]

I am noticing a sharp rise in the gear of the special forces now. Good times

 

[Suryavanshi]

Is it just me or our do our soldiers have loose fiiting when it comes to equipment and Combat dress. May be its just our skinny physique that is responsible for the aesthetic.

 

[rkhanna]

3 PARA SF commando
B&T Mp9 suppressed

Can anyone do the math on the specs and figure out what the angle of the field of view on these NVGs is? I would assume it is lower than binocular NVGs - if thats the case why is TONBO making the ones above?! Any advantage?

 

[uoftotaku]

Is it just me or our do our soldiers have loose fiiting when it comes to equipment and Combat dress. May be its just our skinny physique that is responsible for the aesthetic.

Difference in physique mixed with different approach to fitness. In the west the avg soldier does a lot of weight lifting and such causing them to bulk up and look "bigger". IA along with Israel focuses its fitness on stamina, endurance and mobility resulting in a leaner, "thinner" looking but very fit individual. Look at old pictures of US SOF and UK SF and you will notice they use to be similar in the past. Only recently has the trend of bulking up become accepted.

 

[rkhanna]

Is it just me or our do our soldiers have loose fiiting when it comes to equipment and Combat dress. May be its just our skinny physique that is responsible for the aesthetic.

Variety of Reasons.

1. our procurement geniuses bulk buy keeping US/EU sizes in mind not the reality of the indian physique. Indian Headsizes for example are smaller than European

2. The majority of Battle Harnesses we have are not Rigid Structured ones like the Americans. We end up wearing loose fabric vests with zips down the front. Loaded with Equipment the Vests Sag over time.

3.Also The Americans wear their kit higher on the chest. We end up wearing our kit lower on the torso. So ends up looking "looser"

Simple Example

indian Para SF standard kit as of today - Look at where the mags are situated with respect to the whole torso. Also notice Larger and non rigid pouches

Western operator

Rigid Pouches + worn higher on the torso.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Bulkiness comes with excessive calorie intake plus good weight training.

Indians dont have the kind of calorie consumption as compared to Americans..be it civilians or faujis.

Most of the Indians rely on dal for protein and in USA its red meat...apple and oranges.

Talking of physique....the work you do shapes your physique.

Indian soldiers have a strong core as compared to upper body whereas Wester soldiers have a stronger upper body as compared to Indians.

The lean physique and a strong core is usefull for long periods on foot which Indian Army does.

Americans are more reliant on airborne or mechanised variants for deployment..hence their bulky physiques.

Ya but one thing about bulkiness...without food and water you are screwed.

 

[MuzzleVelocity]

This is what the average Israeli soldier looks like. Lean. Like Indian soldiers.

It depends a lot on your requirement. That said, India should really buy equipment based on its soldiers and not ape the west. I remember a Yudh Abhyas edition where American soldiers commented that Indian soldiers didn't like American gear which was heavy and affected their mobility.

Also it's not something to be worried about. There is a reason why our soldiers are so formidable on the mountains. Good luck with bulkysoldiers in the Kargil terrain. They'd be sitting ducks.

 

[rone]

This is what the average Israeli soldier looks like. Lean. Like Indian soldiers.

It depends a lot on your requirement. That said, India should really buy equipment based on its soldiers and not ape the west. I remember a Yudh Abhyas edition where American soldiers commented that Indian soldiers didn't like American gear which was heavy and affected their mobility.

Also it's not something to be worried about. There is a reason why our soldiers are so formidable on the mountains. Good luck with bulkysoldiers in the Kargil terrain. They'd be sitting ducks.

Western soldiers mostly havey in their kit becoz they designed to operate for long duration in supported evnironenvi in one go, but when come to IA soldiers are light packed mostly becoz we focus on defensive statergy rather than offensive also in indian terrain u need light packed soldiers for fast movement's ,to find out mobility difference , u can go to utube see IA and US army yudh abhyas training video u can see US solider are constantly giving breathing breaks becoz of their havey gear set, also in negger ambush if u see the video the woonded soldier struggles alot to out run the militias

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

Sig Sauer SG 551 SB with sniper scope , Bipod , flashlight & 3 magazine clips.

 

[WARREN SS]

Bulkiness comes with excessive calorie intake plus good weight training.

Indians dont have the kind of calorie consumption as compared to Americans..be it civilians or faujis.

Most of the Indians rely on dal for protein and in USA its red meat...apple and oranges.

Talking of physique....the work you do shapes your physique.

Indian soldiers have a strong core as compared to upper body whereas Wester soldiers have a stronger upper body as compared to Indians.

The lean physique and a strong core is usefull for long periods on foot which Indian Army does.

Americans are more reliant on airborne or mechanised variants for deployment..hence their bulky physiques.

Ya but one thing about bulkiness...without food and water you are screwed.

One point I want to add is Operating on high altitudes

Most of Indian forces are drawn from people who have high altitude genitics

GURKHA,Dogra,Kumoan,J&K rifles
Grawal rifles,Ladakh Scouts,Arunachal etc

Even southern regiment of IA have more operational experience on operating on high altitude than US forces (Credit goes to RR and policy of IA

Where we are actually lacking is making our army more tech friendly

I bet if our forces get budget per soldiers as high as US forces

The amount of Martial warrior races we have we can simply annex entire world
If you put nukes aside

 

[Suryavanshi]

I'm talking about stuff like this

Spoiler

The pants here are little to baggy and I've seen even more baggy pants on soldiers this is the one I could find for quick reference.
Correct me if I'm wrong but our priority is Agility and stamina, from my experience Baggy pants aren't at all comfortable for running.
I have seen some alternative to these kind of pants in counter terrorism thread can someone post those.


I dont mean this in a way of disrespect but have u seen some of our guys in Bullet Proof Vest. Its like a child put inside big clothes.
I think the Bullet proof vest are made with western standard in mind, I dont need to mention whats the problem with that.
Our Average Height is way lower than that of the West so when we manufacture with their standards our will be over sized.
And dont even let me get started on the Jacket the jackets are way to baggy.
Lean Physique requires Lean dressing I dont see any of that here.

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

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[Unknowncommando 2]

PARA SF ....................

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

After almost 36 hours of high tempo operations & intense action across the 7516.6 kms of India's coast and Excl Economic Zone, Coastal Defence #ExSeaVigil concludes. @SpokespersonMoD @DefenceMinIndia @IndiaCoastGuard

 

[Enquirer]

Bulkiness comes with excessive calorie intake plus good weight training.

Indians dont have the kind of calorie consumption as compared to Americans..be it civilians or faujis.

Most of the Indians rely on dal for protein and in USA its red meat...apple and oranges.

Talking of physique....the work you do shapes your physique.

Indian soldiers have a strong core as compared to upper body whereas Wester soldiers have a stronger upper body as compared to Indians.

The lean physique and a strong core is usefull for long periods on foot which Indian Army does.

Americans are more reliant on airborne or mechanised variants for deployment..hence their bulky physiques.

Ya but one thing about bulkiness...without food and water you are screwed.

Without going into the details of what's best for combat (lean muscular or bulky muscular), I have to disagree with you that bulky muscular folks get screwed without food or water!

When you run out of food, your body will attack fat reserves first and then go onto to breakdown your muscles and consume it as protein. So a bulky body will actually last longer when you run out of food to eat!

(also, western soldiers don't just have strong upper bodies, they have pretty strong/bulky legs too..)

 

[apoorv465]

Are there any pictures of Indian operatives in UNSOG(United Nations Special Operations Group)?

 

[vampyrbladez]

Are there any pictures of Indian operatives in UNSOG(United Nations Special Operations Group)?

I hope not. Don't want Indians to act as mercenaries for Goldman Sachs and Wall Street in battles we have no cause to be in the first place.

 

[IndiaRising]

Let's wait and see who gets the awards this republic day. Pretty sure, if there was such a mission carried out, we will see names from PARA SF, getting recognised. Especially Team leaders....

so one Lt.Colonel from 10 para SF, one major from 9 Para SF and one captain from 1 Para SF received shaurya chakra.

 

[Darth Malgus]

so one Lt.Colonel from 10 para SF, one major from 9 Para SF and one captain from 1 Para SF received shaurya chakra.

I know 1st and 9th Para SF guys are deployed in Kashmir, but 10nth Para SF ? Are they not deployed in Rajasthan area due to their specialisation in desert warfare ? Good to see even Lt. Col being directly involved and participating in operations.