Indian Special Forces (archived)

[MrPresident]

No wonder the US AF wrote a wriiten apology if that was a small ego incident the IAF didnt care about.

Anyway,like you said.Offtopic.

Agree off topic, lets not derail the thread.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Think they are but usually before large scale movements. The current incident was when Soldiers were returning from leave. But not enough info here to make a qualified guess on what really did happen or didnt happen. lets wait for the AAR to finish.

Also - looks like the NE rebels are using the LTTE MO of IED's. The LTTE used to pack explosives in drums and hide them inside trees etc (to evade metal detectors/ Bomb sniffing dogs etc) and there was enough explosives to level a building (T-72s used to be thrown many feet into the air and casualties came from concussions). Armour on the vehicles was pointless.

The one picture i saw the MPV was blown to bits.

These Mofos dig tunnels under ground for hundreds of metres and reach under the road like a rat.

Then they use high explosives which blows up even a well built road.

IEDs and Bombs are the weapons of weak..I wish they came head on to see what happened.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Chindits

The Chindits: The Chindits were a British India 'Special Force' that served in Burma and India in 1943 and 1944 during the Burma Campaign of World War II. They were formed to put into effect Orde Charles Wingate's newly developed Guerrilla Warfare tactic of long-range penetration. The Chindits were trained to operate deep behind Japanese lines. Their operations were marked by prolonged marches through extremely difficult terrain by underfed troops weakened by diseases such as malaria and dysentery. There is controversy over the extremely high casualty rate and the debatable military value of the achievements of the Chindits. Wingate trained this force as long-range penetration units that were to be supplied by stores parachuted or dropped from transport aircraft, and were to use close air support as a substitute for heavy artillery. They would penetrate the jungle on foot, essentially relying on surprise through mobility to target enemy lines of communication (a tactic that the Japanese had previously used in 1942 to great effect against British forces in Singapore and Burma).


The Chindits, known officially as the Long Range Penetration Groups, were special operations units of the British and Indian armies, which saw action in 1943–1944, during the Burma Campaign of World War II. The creation of British Army Brigadier Orde Charles Wingate, the Chindits were formed for raiding operations against the Imperial Japanese Army, especially long-range penetration: attacking Japanese troops, facilities and lines of communication, deep behind Japanese lines.

Their operations were marked by prolonged marches through extremely difficult terrain, by underfed troops often weakened by diseases such as malaria and dysentery. There is controversy over the extremely high casualty rate and the debatable military value of the achievements of the Chindits.


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A little bit i was reading and came to know about them.Thought i would share on this thread.

You can read more here..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chindits


https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ester-news/war-hero-thought-one-last-10734479


https://chindits.wordpress.com/2011/04/16/the-chindits-in-photographs/

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If anyone knows about the composition and how many Indian officers and soldiers were part of this unit please share.

 

[Johny_Baba]

Chindits

The Chindits: The Chindits were a British India 'Special Force' that served in Burma and India in 1943 and 1944 during the Burma Campaign of World War II. They were formed to put into effect Orde Charles Wingate's newly developed Guerrilla Warfare tactic of long-range penetration. The Chindits were trained to operate deep behind Japanese lines. Their operations were marked by prolonged marches through extremely difficult terrain by underfed troops weakened by diseases such as malaria and dysentery. There is controversy over the extremely high casualty rate and the debatable military value of the achievements of the Chindits. Wingate trained this force as long-range penetration units that were to be supplied by stores parachuted or dropped from transport aircraft, and were to use close air support as a substitute for heavy artillery. They would penetrate the jungle on foot, essentially relying on surprise through mobility to target enemy lines of communication (a tactic that the Japanese had previously used in 1942 to great effect against British forces in Singapore and Burma).


The Chindits, known officially as the Long Range Penetration Groups, were special operations units of the British and Indian armies, which saw action in 1943–1944, during the Burma Campaign of World War II. The creation of British Army Brigadier Orde Charles Wingate, the Chindits were formed for raiding operations against the Imperial Japanese Army, especially long-range penetration: attacking Japanese troops, facilities and lines of communication, deep behind Japanese lines.

Their operations were marked by prolonged marches through extremely difficult terrain, by underfed troops often weakened by diseases such as malaria and dysentery. There is controversy over the extremely high casualty rate and the debatable military value of the achievements of the Chindits.


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A little bit i was reading and came to know about them.Thought i would share on this thread.

You can read more here..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chindits


https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ester-news/war-hero-thought-one-last-10734479


https://chindits.wordpress.com/2011/04/16/the-chindits-in-photographs/

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If anyone knows about the composition and how many Indian officers and soldiers were part of this unit please share.

Coldhearted,
I found these books on Chindits,you can refer these for more detailed information on indian contribution in the Chindits.

http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=DC8F400FAA34202BDD358A5AFF684DA1

http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=60F64185605DF5D096348BBF6CEA9795

http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=3DF20A3E703BAA9CFF6BC3DEE58114F3

http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=FEBBBA0DB2F5775A0FB82CF7E19B5AC6

http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=6527FFCB080480535F5942958B0B140A

 

[Indian Sniper.001]

On the elite SG. Please read from the blog itself and support/share.

https://shatrujeet009.wordpress.com/2018/03/16/the-hammer-of-raw-special-group/

 

[Brahmaputra Mail 2]

Question: How does Para SF and SG prevent overlapping of operations ?

 

[abingdonboy]

Question: How does Para SF and SG prevent overlapping of operations ?

There's very little overlap, SG is directly controlled by R&AW, PARA (SF) are controlled by the IA and their respective commands.

SG works only on strategic missions for strategic goals.

 

[reddevil9]

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[JHARHEADD]

Do

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Does the vest support add-ons like water bladder?

 

[rkhanna]

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Literrally thousands of Plate carrier/Vests designs out there and the best TATA could come up with was something from the 80s? no MOLLE system?

 

[rkhanna]

There's very little overlap, SG is directly controlled by R&AW, PARA (SF) are controlled by the IA and their respective commands.

SG works only on strategic missions for strategic goals.

IMO for me one of the greatest drawbacks of the SG structure is that it is a temporary posting for Selectness. Their permanent CADRE is very little. makes little sense spending money, training up somebody then after a few years RTUing them. (my opinion only) - This is alot like SAS's CRWW system - I prefer the SFOD-D / DEVGRU process where they have permanent cadre.

 

[cyclops]

Literrally thousands of Plate carrier/Vests designs out there and the best TATA could come up with was something from the 80s? no MOLLE system?

TATA actually does make MOLLE type BPJs, the issue could be the weight, size, cost. Only heavens know why IA didn't go for it.

 

[tharun]

Looking at our plate carrier making me laugh.....No offence

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[Brahmaputra Mail 2]

There's very little overlap, SG is directly controlled by R&AW, PARA (SF) are controlled by the IA and their respective commands.

SG works only on strategic missions for strategic goals.

Sometimes I wonder what's the requirement of SG inside Indian territory when there are SF units and regular units who can be fed with same intel to act upon.

 

[tharun]

How much does this tata plates costs?AR500 armor plates from level 3+ starts from 120$ and level 4 plates from 99-120$.


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[ALBY]

Sometimes I wonder what's the requirement of SG inside Indian territory when there are SF units and regular units who can be fed with same intel to act upon.

You need a dedicated cadre of expendables to do the dirty work .The works of intel agencies are most time kept dark from army ,.Also requesting military support for every operation compromises the covert nature also there is scope of inter agency rivalry and also it slows down the pace of operation.
The downside of Special Group just like @rkhanna pointed out is that they are deputed from Para for 2 or 4 years which didn't justifies the amount of money spend.A permanent cadre of operatives from all the branches of military and also CAPFs are better than relying enturele on men send from Para or Marco on deputation as no CO will spare their best men to another agency.

 

[Bornubus]

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[abingdonboy]

Sometimes I wonder what's the requirement of SG inside Indian territory when there are SF units and regular units who can be fed with same intel to act upon.

How many ops does SG do in India? We will never know.

All we know is they are the "operators" of R&AW and we know that R&AW is India's external intel agency but that doesn't mean occasionally they don't have reasons to operate in Indian territory.

If you look at certain events it's possible to see SG's hand.

 

[MrPresident]

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I have noobish query, does combat free fall literally means that the operator has performed a jump for an Operation?

 

[Bornubus]

I have noobish query, does combat free fall literally means that the operator has performed a jump for an Operation?

After successful completion of 50 jumps from different altitude. Some rare unseen photos of CFF award ceremony will be posted as well.