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Secondly, people need to stop thinking of 'those Tibetans' exactly as Tibetans, they are as Indian as they come. Tibet might as well be an integral part of India.
we need more people like u

in the top positions of the government

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Just wondering what's the truth behind pt 5353 which pakis claim that they still hold. Can u plz tell the truth ?
Occupied by Baloch Regt and supported by 2 more battalions and now fortified it last i heard. At least one Indian attempt to regain pt 5353 was failed with at least 10 ~ fatal casualties on our side.


Now i understand that Indian posts makes an interlocking posting from different sides to compensate for it's advantageous position but that's different issue and true for many of our posts all along LoC where Pak Army is dominating the terrain
 
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Occupied by Baloch Regt and supported by 2 more battalions and now fortified it last i heard. At least one Indian attempt to regain pt 5353 was failed with at least 10 ~ fatal casualties on our side.


Now i understand that Indian posts makes an interlocking posting from different sides to compensate for it's advantageous position but that's different issue and true for many of our posts all along LoC where Pak Army is dominating the terrain
I read somewhere on this forum that IA occupied another point on LOC in retaliation for Point 5353 and now both sides have agreed that 5353 belongs to Pak and the other point belongs to Inda. That true?
 

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I read somewhere on this forum that IA occupied another point on LOC in retaliation for Point 5353 and now both sides have agreed that 5353 belongs to Pak and the other point belongs to Inda. That true?
That is pt 4875 and there are many pts which were unoccupied before kargil war but now there are permanent posts by both sides. It was like Siachen where there was a race to occupy as many as important pts by India and Pak and where a small piece of land (Post) became bone of contention


Other being Pt 5310, pt 5770 etc
 

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No..they are China centric with some deployments in Kashmir mostly in Leh and Ladakh and sometimes Siachen.

The Para brigade stationed at Agra is responsible for International ops.

To the best of my knowledge SFF or SG doesnt even do ops against NE militants.
Dont confuse SFF and SG.

The structure of SFF and SG is fluid. No Tibetians in SG - Completely manned by Indian personal. Predominantly Para SF but i know of 1 Naga who has been part without going through SF and 1 know of 1 Sailor who has dont a short deputation with SG.

SG personel sometimes will deploy in pairs and embed themselves with other units (conventional or SF).

Without going into any detail their mandate from SFF is completely different.

In terms of tasking they are India's true blue Tier I. (but I know a couple of 9 Para guys who completely disagree and think they are Tier I ;p)
 

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I think gurus can confirm, but if recent reports are to be believed, reading between the lines I would hazard a guess that both TSD and Ikhwaani are back, albeit in a naya avataar.
Any signs to indicate so.

Govt. Might have thought the same.

Please do share some sort of evidence and incidents you've noted...it will a good exercise for me to track on something
 

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Any signs to indicate so.

Govt. Might have thought the same.

Please do share some sort of evidence and incidents you've noted...it will a good exercise for me to track on something
Like I said just a hunch...Some of the recent reports on LOC incidents, when we flattened a few bunkers and killed numerous Napakis, there were enough indications that the border had been crossed because some of those acts could not have been done without ground level intelligence. Usually it's the job of Military intelligence and TSD was derived from it. Recently, when Paras reportedly halaled BAT teams across the LoC, they had actionable intelligence.

About the Ikhwani, see this report

http://english.manoramaonline.com/n...s-civilian-killed-jawans-kashmir-shopian.html

"Aiding the security forces, which included a team of concealed anti terrorists (CAT), were drones...."

To me it appears that Ikhwani are back in a new avatar.
 

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@rkhanna Tibetans are not a part of SG is a myth. There are more than a handful of pics on this very thread that says otherwise. I think @Bornubus posted them.

@mayfair Ikhwanis were always there, under the garb of Territorial Army but because of the retarded policies of UPA they were never utilized in the capacity they should have been.
 
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So,reading between the lines it means that if China attacks us we will ask SFF to liberate Tibet?To me it looks highly unlikely.

We cannot fckup with China in Tibet the same way Pakistan cannot do anything about Kashmir even if it puts all its SSG as mujahids in Kashmir.

I think(and i may be wrong) that we should have SF units with good operational experience to target infrastructure and weapon system in Tibet as part of the plan to delay any PLA advance.The infantry should be supported by tanks and good Machine guns,RL and Snipers to delay them as much as possible and lastly decent attack helicopters and AF jets to support the troops on the ground.

To think that a war with China would liberate Tibet with the help of SFF or SG is too wishful for my thinking.Pakistan got its ass wooped in 65 because of such thinking.
It's not the thinking we are working towards, In the event of an eventual war with China, they will be the aggressors and thus the kind of targets we set ourselves to achieve are fair game. Sure, initially we'll need to bear the brunt of their thrusts this is where 5-6 Pivots will hold up while 2-3 Strike Corps go to work while another 2 keep close eye on Paki maneuvers. We have always allowed the enemy the option of further escalation and thus if the war spreads beyond the mountains to other areas, war will come very quickly to South China sea and most of their Principal ships won't stand a chance to the IN.

Best for India and China with to visit every mile on the LAC, agree on final border, fence it, mine, have plenty of smart sensors, merge ITBP & SSB into BSF and have all borders protected by BSF. Covert a few more Pivots into Strike Corps while at it. Eventually by 2030 have a force of 15 corps with 8 being Pivots and 7 being Strike
 

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This is at chakrata base,since we can't post the name ,posting the photo of his parents.
I have notice one thing in Tibetans be it SFF, VIKAS or SG their home, barracks and their mess looks quite similar. Dali lama photo, Tibet flag etc
 

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I have notice one thing in Tibetans be it SFF, VIKAS or SG their home, barracks and their mess looks quite similar. Dali lama photo, Tibet flag etc
Because Free Tibet is their dream and Dali lama is like a god to them.One tibetian in SFF was saying " I have not seen Tibet in my life,but I want to die over there ".

The role of SFF is already determined in case of a war with China.Sad thing is that people don't recognize their service toward our nation.

 

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Because Free Tibet is their dream and Dali lama is like a god to them.One tibetian in SFF was saying " I have not seen Tibet in my life,but I want to die over there ".

The role of SFF is already determined in case of a war with China.Sad thing is that people don't recognize their service toward our nation.


That's true for all infantry regt to some extent. Lord Ram is the patron deity of Rajputs in Rajputana rifles and Rajput regt.

Badri Vishal for Garhwal Rifles and even their Muslim officers such as Lt Gen Syed Atta Husnain says "Badri Vishal ki Jai"

13 and 4 Kumaon - Dada Krishan (lord Krishna)

Same is true for other Regt


They fight for - "Naam Namak or Nishan"
 
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