Indian Special Forces (archived)

[Johny_Baba]

MARCOS !!!
Sharp eyes with sharp knife .

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What is purpose of the scale on this dagger ?

 

[rishivashista13]

What is purpose of the scale on this dagger ?

The knife is actually a multitool, it can be used for measurements in field .

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[Vayuputra]

LOL.
Have you ever been out to sea or been at the receiving end of Pirates?

I have so I can tell you that they aren't poor.. they are well armed.. and very cunning.
They have all the equipment required to intimidate and board a full size container ship.

See man, I lwork in a MNC where people from all backgrounds works including army, airforce and navy. I worked with an ex navy who lead first operation against pirates in the gulf Aden. He retired at the age of 34 and joined the company. But his body couldn't adjusted to sedantary life and was prone to illness very often so just after three months he left the company for never to work again.

 

[Vinod DX9]

NSG team in Jordan for 9th Annual Warrior Competition, 2017. they by mistakenly have written NSF instead of NSG.

 

[rishivashista13]

PARA Special Forces
Red Devils
In Full Gear

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[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Without going into details, I can counter by saying Garuds and Marcos have been busy outside India for well over 8 years in many many ops often teaming up other 'Tier-1' units, in joint raids. This idea that they aren't as good as the Paras is absolute non sense. They are after all imparted training by ex NSG, SG, SFF and Para instructors. Actually while Para SF keeps busy in J&K, Garuds and Marcos have become ghosts in daring raids outside India. The arc of their work has been as far as the Indian Ocean stretches. Garuds coming to J&K is not new, they have been active in a passive way, they'll be more active from now on because the enemy they face is quite different. Pathankot was a success, base defence is a tertiary role for the Garuds and they did a stellar job, while denying the pigs access, they buckled down to ensure no one got anywhere within a mile of certain strategic bunkers.

Dont take personally what i am going to say now....

Mumbai Police Force1 was trained by Israeli special units so are Force 1 close to NYPD SWATS or Israeli special units?..It doesnt matter who trained you what matters is whats your experience because you develop your own tactics.

Secondly,Garuds are protecting base in Kashmir and not indulging in operations.Now,according to the news posted by Abingdonboy they should be doing operations.

Lastly,Garuds under Blue berets is not what some here are calling special operations in Africa.A lot of infantry battalions do this kind of work every year.Its not exactly a special force kind of job.

I respect Garuds and Marcos but what i am saying is that you cannot say anti pirate ops equal surgucal strikes or even encounters inside kashmir.

We need to form a Socom and give all these guys experience and lessen the burden on Para SF.

 

[indiandefencefan]

Hype poison???


Explain what you mean please

I meant that you're stirring a hornets' nest by mentioning this here. Expect to pestered by me (and possibly others) for details in the future.

 

[rohit b3]

Dont take personally what i am going to say now....

Mumbai Police Force1 was trained by Israeli special units so are Force 1 close to NYPD SWATS or Israeli special units?..It doesnt matter who trained you what matters is whats your experience because you develop your own tactics.

Secondly,Garuds are protecting base in Kashmir and not indulging in operations.Now,according to the news posted by Abingdonboy they should be doing operations.

Lastly,Garuds under Blue berets is not what some here are calling special operations in Africa.A lot of infantry battalions do this kind of work every year.Its not exactly a special force kind of job.

I respect Garuds and Marcos but what i am saying is that you cannot say anti pirate ops equal surgucal strikes or even encounters inside kashmir.

We need to form a Socom and give all these guys experience and lessen the burden on Para SF.

Calm down. Force one was majorly trained modeled on the NSG.

 

[Vinod DX9]

Encounter ends at DPS, two pigs are taken put, 2 AK-47 and 10 magazines are recovered....

 

[abingdonboy]

PARA Special Forces
Red Devils
In Full Gear

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Since 2009/2010, what new gear have the PARA (SF) and MARCOs received? They look to be identical to where they were 7+ years ago....

 

[Immanuel]

Dont take personally what i am going to say now....

Mumbai Police Force1 was trained by Israeli special units so are Force 1 close to NYPD SWATS or Israeli special units?..It doesnt matter who trained you what matters is whats your experience because you develop your own tactics.

Secondly,Garuds are protecting base in Kashmir and not indulging in operations.Now,according to the news posted by Abingdonboy they should be doing operations.

Lastly,Garuds under Blue berets is not what some here are calling special operations in Africa.A lot of infantry battalions do this kind of work every year.Its not exactly a special force kind of job.

I respect Garuds and Marcos but what i am saying is that you cannot say anti pirate ops equal surgucal strikes or even encounters inside kashmir.

We need to form a Socom and give all these guys experience and lessen the burden on Para SF.

I never said anything about Blue beret ops by Garuds. The ops I speak of are nothing to do with UN, they are covert ops conducted on request of assistance from a large ally in Africa, the menace they faced threatened the entire nation, Garuds along with local SF units were instrumental in dishing out crushing blows to this very popular terror outfit. Garuds during these extended ops over a period of 18 months raked up an impressive kill list of over 200 hardcore bastards, this is also the same country where they also worked together with another Tier-1 counterpart. This was also the first time Garuds worked extensively as combat controllers as well.

Socom delays are mainly due to the lessons learned by Marcos and Garuds over the last few years. While working with a few Tier-1 counterparts from a couple of nations, our boys were able to discover a lot of inherent weaknesses in the SOPs of many such units. These same SOPs often resulted in highly skilled and trained operators being KIA often by ragtag militia. These same SOP often result in elite Paras making the ultimate sacrifice. Hence, the discussion had to be renewed and relooked, hard questions have some up and these things are being discussed extensively

I cannot divulge any info on Marcos, their work has been even more covert but you can trust me when I say, they have been very active and they are true badasses.

 

[Immanuel]

Garuds and marcos should put their training and equipment to use for defending our country's resources not neutralizing poverty stricken Somali pirates in gulf of eden.

I never said anything about somali pirates, these are peanuts compared what they have been actually busy with. A SF being used in country for defense is nice, but ops outside country is what keep them fit and ready to adapt. Sure domestic ops have their value but nothing like keeping busy behind enemy lines. Garuds spent 18 months in a wide terror dominated region of a country playing hunter killer with local SF units and one other Teir-1 unit that shall remain unnamed. Marcos Ops I can't even begin to divulge.

 

[Immanuel]

In my understanding and making simple how things work..when a team of terrorists goes to strike a high value target whoever guards it has to neutralize them.If not then come containing them till the time other forces can come and take over.

DSC being the guarding force and Garuds being the SPECIAL FORCE who should have neutralized them.But it didnt work that way coz the special force was unable to contain them in the firefight where some Garuds got martyred

If i remember correctly the Para SF was guarding the assets and NSG was neutralising the threat.Kindly educate me if i am wrong...and Arent Garuds raised for this job?Its their primary task.

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Why do we respect Gorkhas...coz of their selfless service.In one incident a gorkha faught against 40 thugs to save a girl from being raped in a train...Its these things which makes reputation.

Leaving people to die for chain of command is bullshit according to me.

Why do you wear the unifrom is the question then?

Garuds are spread across many bases, they don't have the numbers to be present to take on search and combing ops certainly in a vast base like Pathankot. As said while a small team of Garuds prevented the Pigs access, the remaining force hunkered down around some key strategic bunkers which were hot due to period weapons rotations.

 

[Immanuel]

Sir, Playing the the guessing game here, Did Gen.Sundarji play an active role in this African nation?

No sir, this was well beyond the good general's service time and it is not the country I refer to.

 

[abingdonboy]

View attachment 16997 NSG team in Jordan for 9th Annual Warrior Competition, 2017. they by mistakenly have written NSF instead of NSG.

NSG at the 9th Annual Warrior Competition:

 

[abingdonboy]

NSG at the 9th Annual Warrior Competition:

 

[abingdonboy]

NSG at the 9th Annual Warrior Competition:

 

[abingdonboy]

NSG at the 9th Annual Warrior Competition:

 

[abingdonboy]

I never said anything about Blue beret ops by Garuds. The ops I speak of are nothing to do with UN, they are covert ops conducted on request of assistance from a large ally in Africa, the menace they faced threatened the entire nation, Garuds along with local SF units were instrumental in dishing out crushing blows to this very popular terror outfit. Garuds during these extended ops over a period of 18 months raked up an impressive kill list of over 200 hardcore bastards, this is also the same country where they also worked together with another Tier-1 counterpart. This was also the first time Garuds worked extensively as combat controllers as well.

Socom delays are mainly due to the lessons learned by Marcos and Garuds over the last few years. While working with a few Tier-1 counterparts from a couple of nations, our boys were able to discover a lot of inherent weaknesses in the SOPs of many such units. These same SOPs often resulted in highly skilled and trained operators being KIA often by ragtag militia. These same SOP often result in elite Paras making the ultimate sacrifice. Hence, the discussion had to be renewed and relooked, hard questions have some up and these things are being discussed extensively

I cannot divulge any info on Marcos, their work has been even more covert but you can trust me when I say, they have been very active and they are true badasses.

Why would the GoI deploy Garuds for such oversees missions when it is easily the least experienced and smallest of all the Indian Special forces? PARA (SF) would be the more obvious choice surely?

 

[rkhanna]

Any update on how the nsg is standing in Jordan? Great pics