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why do Indian SF not switch to Lapua Magnum 338 for sniper rifles as used by many SFs around the world?
 

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I googled price of this gun. Its retail was around 1400-1600USD.
The Price currently is coming to 17000USD - Like I Said the contract is not just for the Gun. It will come with Spare Barrels, Spare Magazines, 100,000 Rounds of AMMO and OPTICS - and Optics would be the most expensive part of the Gun.
 

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during terror attack on taj marcos just couldnt to the job ,

they were among first responders , they arrive there much before nsg but they back down , yeah ???
 

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during terror attack on taj marcos just couldnt to the job ,

they were among first responders , they arrive there much before nsg but they back down , yeah ???
Firstly, urban CT ops is not the MARCOs' main role, that is why the NSG exists.

There were only about 20 MARCOs operators (+ some support elements) on the ground during 26/11. There was no way they were going to be able to handle the situation alone so they did the best they could (containing the terrorists until the NSG arrived).

That was some 8 years ago and the lessons that were learnt will have been applied for sure.
 

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Firstly, urban CT ops is not the MARCOs' main role, that is why the NSG exists.

There were only about 20 MARCOs operators (+ some support elements) on the ground during 26/11. There was no way they were going to be able to handle the situation alone so they did the best they could (containing the terrorists until the NSG arrived).

That was some 8 years ago and the lessons that were learnt will have been applied for sure.
yeah so thats says marcos are not equivalent to the navy seals as people claims , but actually marcos are less trained than navy seals .
 

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yeah so thats says marcos are not equivalent to the navy seals as people claims , but actually marcos are less trained than navy seals .
You give the same mission to the Navy SEALs (20 of them against an unknown enemy with unknown objectives across multiple locations) and see what happens.

There is little more the MARCOs could have done at that time.
 

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You give the same mission to the Navy SEALs (20 of them against an unknown enemy with unknown objectives across multiple locations) and see what happens.

There is little more the MARCOs could have done at that time.
Navy Seal has C4ISTAR Environment (USSOCOM) Don;t Know how much time It will Take India to develop Such capabilities

They have Also Better Support and logistic
GOD Give us AC-130 Like platform For Covert ops
 

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Special forces, whether MARCOs or the SEALS are a scalpel and not a broadsword. Every Special Ops mission is thoroughly guided by intelligence. Also almost 99% special operations are offensive in nature. 26/11 was a very good example of "make do with what you got on the ground" till the reinforcement s arrive.
Given such a situation, most SEAL teams would have had a similar result or worse.
SEALs or IDF special forces only have really amazing success stories because of three factors
1. Political will
2. Clear objective to achieve
3. Most important: sound reliable intelligence
 

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Navy Seal has C4ISTAR Environment (USSOCOM) Don;t Know how much time It will Take India to develop Such capabilities

They have Also Better Support and logistic
GOD Give us AC-130 Like platform For Covert ops
What could would a AC-130 have done in 26/11 or in any operation Indian SF have undertaken in the past 10 years?
 

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Special forces, whether MARCOs or the SEALS are a scalpel and not a broadsword. Every Special Ops mission is thoroughly guided by intelligence. Also almost 99% special operations are offensive in nature. 26/11 was a very good example of "make do with what you got on the ground" till the reinforcement s arrive.
Given such a situation, most SEAL teams would have had a similar result or worse.
SEALs or IDF special forces only have really amazing success stories because of three factors
1. Political will
2. Clear objective to achieve
3. Most important: sound reliable intelligence
Indeed.

Too many buy into the Wester/American propoganda that their SFs are somehow "super soldiers". It all comes down to training as well as the other factors you have rightly pointed out.

Anyone who has monitered Indian SF interaction with their Western counterparts will know that every time this happens the Western guys are surprised by the Indian operators and how similar they are to themselves.
 

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Indeed.

Too many buy into the Wester/American propoganda that their SFs are somehow "super soldiers". It all comes down to training as well as the other factors you have rightly pointed out.

Anyone who has monitered Indian SF interaction with their Western counterparts will know that every time this happens the Western guys are surprised by the Indian operators and how similar they are to themselves.
Totally
What's also useful is when a Western Spec Ops unit responds to an attack. Case in point will be when the US embassy in Libya got hit and you compare that with his the MARCOs performed when 26/11 happened where effectively the MARCOs were in a defensive posture (no element of surprise) just like the super soldiers of Ben Ghazi
 
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