Indian Sniper Equipment & Tactics

[Bornubus]

SVD with 1PN58 scope in service with Dogras

 

[Bornubus]

Too heavy !!

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[Kunal Biswas]

At 25kgs it will be heavy, But unlike NTW-20 it does not have to be break down to carried over distances ..

Too heavy !!

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[Bornubus]

At 25kgs it will be heavy, But unlike NTW-20 it does not have to be break down to carried over distances ..

Army NTW 20 is even more heavier with 30 kg weight. That means OFB has successfully shaved off 5 kg from the orignal AMR ?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

It was 35kg, The Indian varaient of NTW 20 is 10kg lighter ..

Army NTW 20 is even more heavier with 30 kg weight. That means OFB has successfully shaved off 5 kg from the orignal AMR ?

 

[Bornubus]

It was 35kg, The Indian varaient of NTW 20 is 10kg lighter ..

This is Army's variant weight 30 - 35 ~ kg depending on the barrel

 

[aditya g]

Support Weapons Squadron - NSG

Clearly a dedicated sniper unit.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

BSF`s Vidwanshak at LOC ..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Army marksman and Sniper with SVDs ..

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NSG ..

 

[Bornubus]

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[jatin ladda]

good one .dragnov is a old horse now . they should go for L115A3 AWM or CheyTac Intervention .408 .. these are new and one of top 5 best sniper rifles in the world of modern world according to lots of website ..

 

[Wisemarko]

Wow.. what a waste of arguments without anyone questioning the logic of the article itself!

Is IA looking to replace SVD? Maybe but answer to that is not very clear. If IA was trying buy TRG 22 or Remington 700 based .308 Winchester sniper rifles then the title would have been appropriate. But that's not the case. Army seems happy with what SVD can do in 500-600 meter range.
However, we know for sure that Indian army is looking for 'ultra long range sniper system'. It is unfair to state that it is trying to replace SVD with this system, since IA never had such option. 'Ultra long range' (ULR) is unofficial designation for 1500 plus meter range, while 'very long range' being between 1000-1500 meters. Long range is 600-1000 meters.
For anti- personnel use, there are only a few cartridges that can fill role of the ULR in armed forces: .338 Lapua Magnum, .416 Barrett and .408 Cheyenne Tactical.
Lapua being adopted by more forces than anyone else is preferable since it has many advantages: 1. Cost, since each round costs $4
2. Multiple sources of manufacturers (Barrett and Chey rounds are made by only the proprietors unlike Lapua and
3. Many rifles designed to chamber it hence more buying options. Again Barrett and Chey rifles are made by 1-2 makers.

.50BMG can not be called true anti-personnel round but has been used effectively in that role by Western snipers in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is a heavy round with big recoil for intended use.
Indian soldiers, being smaller than their Western counterparts will have tough time lugging a very heavy rifle and dealing with huge recoil without any benefit. Also, .50 cal rifles cost almost double than Lapua rifles.

There are many multi-caliber rifles that allow quick change of barrel between .300 Win mag (good for upto 1200 meters) and Lapua. That helps barrel wear and cheaper target practice - Lapua costs 2x more than Win Magnum. IA should prefer multi-caliber option.

It's not just the rifle that makes the kill, but also scope, rings and training that make huge difference. Large scopes with 35mm to 40mm tubes are a quantum leap ahead of what SVD scopes are. They also cost as much as or more than rifle itself. A good scope for ULR costs at least $2500.

The next step is training. Without dedicated training school for ULR snipers, usefulness of these expensive gadgets will remain limited.

 

[Bornubus]

SVD without scope


SFF

 

[Raj Malhotra]

Vidhawansak has weight between 25-29 kg depending on configuration/caliber.

http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wmc/add_10.htm

Even FN GPMG extensively used by Indian Army has weight with tripod of 22kg. Minimum ammo of 20-50kg will also need to be carried. So weapon plus ammo is around 45-75kg and normally lugged by 2 or 3 men teams.

with Vidhawansak, weapon plus ammo will come to 40-50kg as less ammo is required for a sniper rifle. So 2 men team is adequate which in any case is a norm in Sniper teams.

There are benefits of heavy weapon/log barrel like less felt recoil, less flash signature etc. It is a good weapon and could have been ordered and used but for last 10 years, its orders have been blocked (it seems) by import lobby to encourage imports like what is happening in all other small arms.

 

[rkhanna]

Reference Article

Things to keep in mind while reading this.

1. Shot taken from elevated position - able to work at the maximum range of both rifle and bullet
2. The 4 man sniper team had been there for several days and already had multi kills in. With each kill they ranged out further and further - to say they were ranged in would be an understatement. (source: Sofrep)
3. No matter how much we say (and it is true) that luck played a role - that is one hell of a ballsy hail mary shot and it paid off.



Canadian JTF-2 Operator makes a confirmed 3.5Km Kill

Canadian elite special forces sniper makes record-breaking kill shot in Iraq

A sniper with Canada’s elite special forces in Iraq has shattered the world record for the longest confirmed kill shot in military history at a staggering distance of 3,450 metres.

Sources say a member of Joint Task Force 2 killed an Islamic State insurgent with a McMillan TAC-50 sniper rifle while firing from a high-rise during an operation that took place within the last month in Iraq. It took under 10 seconds to hit the target.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...d-breaking-kill-shot-in-iraq/article35415651/

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Once upon a time, We had this wonderful rifle ..

 

[Chinmoy]

Once upon a time, We had this wonderful rifle ..

I do still remember the first shot I had taken with one and the returned kick...

 

[hardip]

Heavy Sniper Is Need
For Indian (Sniper teams..)forces

It can also eliminate A IFV or APC in A shot..(with. Armor Beaten capable Round) ..

My question..
Is India Have anti armor round (NTW) ?
(if have.. By import?/ from where?..)

Is Indian Sniper use it in firing practice...?

 

[aditya g]

MARCOS sniper - or rather Marksman

 

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reguler sniper competition is the need of the hour looking at the requirements on loc..