Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[binayak95]

https://x.com/IndiainSingapor/status/1705407939593560207?s=20

 

[abingdonboy]

2-4 LHD is very important for us...mistral or juan carlos type LHD is best for india. if they can carry upcoming american predator B drone, which can operate in carriers. that will boost navy power. with anti ship nd anti submarine helicopters these LHD is good force multiplayer. than our upcoming distroyer or firgate dont need to carry two helicopter. nd they focus on carry more missiles with one helicopter.

LHD/LPD are pointless without the marine infantry to go with it+ serious heavy lift helicopter capabilities. How many years did it take just to order 24 Romeos?

what’s India going to do with LHDs?

 

[abingdonboy]

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Any confirmation of the VSR/AEW radar that’ll be on the 17As? For the love of god don’t let it be the LW08

 

[vin bharat mahan]

LHD/LPD are pointless without the marine infantry to go with it+ serious heavy lift helicopter capabilities. How many years did it take just to order 24 Romeos?

what’s India going to do with LHDs?

first thing we hv plan to build IMRH medium weight helicopter nd we also hv light weight ALH dhruv mark 4 naval version....we can make naval version of both. our LHD (if happen) will definitely take 10-12 years to make, that is good enough time to make a naval version of medium nd light weight helicopter.
about benefit of 4 LHD is...they hv 32 VLS (asked by navy) nd helicopters will give them anti ship nd anti submarine capabilities. so 3 can asist our 3 carrier, so our carrier dont need to carry helicopter on them. so they hv more space to put more fighters (26+). if we going to chock some area, we can make layers of choke point. i mean around 400 km away of chokepoint we put one LHD with one submarine, one destroyer, one corvette nd one frigate. same time we can lay second layer at 600 km away. nd main carrier will deploy at 800-1000 km. navy already ask 32 VLS for LHD requirements. that will make enemy fighters nd cruise missile counter. these three layer of choke off make our CBG more secure. we can make two this type of layered deployment in two area. that will make enemy to devide its naval resources.

 

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[bhramos]

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

 

[Arjun Mk1A]

Ya'll Nibbiars

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Is it sea guardian?

 

[NutCracker]

Is it sea guardian?

That's the only variant we have.
It has that maritime ASW sensor beneath.
Both drones visible in the pic. Lease ending by the end of 2022.

 

[Fatalis]

Any breakdown?

RFI released = 55 + 120
1. High Speed Landing Crafts = 06
2. National Hospital Ship = 01
3. Multi Purpose Vessels = 02
4. Fast Interceptor Craft-I = 120
5. LHD = 04
6. Next Generation Corvettes = 08
7. New Water Jet Fast Attack Craft = 21
8. Technical Support Craft = 01
9. Mine Counter Measure Vessels = 12

AoN accorded = 18
1. Multi Purpose Vessels = 02
2. Next Generation Corvettes = 08
3. Next Generation Survey Vessels = 05
4. Additional Kalvari class = 03

RFP released = 06
1. P-75I = 06

Under construction = 43
1. Samarthak class MPV = 02
2. Kalvari class SSK = 01
3. Visakhapatnam class DDG = 02
4. Nilgiri class FFG = 07
5. Talwar class FFG = 04
6. Mahe class ASWSWC = 08
7. Arnala class ASWSWC = 08
8. Sandhyak class SVL = 04
9. Nistar class DSV = 02
10. Diving Support Craft = 05

Contract Signed = 25
1. Cadet Training Ship = 03
2. Next Generation OPV = 11
3. Next Generation Missile Vessel = 06
4. Fleet Support Ship = 05

It is a bit strange that AoN for NGSV has been accorded but no RFI has been released in the public. Also, according to the CNS, government has approved AoN for 51 vessels but I could only get 18.

 

[WolfPack86]

PUNE DEFENCE START-UP TO PROVIDE ‘UNMANNED’ WEAPONISED BOATS, UNDERSEA DRONES TO ARMED FORCES TO COUNTER CHINESE FORAYS
A Pune-based Defence organisation called Sagar Defence Engineering Limited has offered marvellous and strategically advanced weaponised boats and underwater drone swarms to the Indian Navy and the Indian Army to tackle China in IOR and Pangong Tso Lake in Eastern Ladakh, respectively


In a bid to bolster security measures along the Indian coastline and the strategically significant Pangong Tso Lake in Eastern Ladakh, where tensions between Indian and Chinese forces have persisted since 2020, the Indian security forces are all set to deploy state-of-the-art unmanned weaponized marine boats and undersea drones’ swarms for comprehensive above and below water threat detection.

The Indian Navy has recently granted the approval for the acquisition of twelve autonomous weaponised boat swarms, a ground breaking development engineered by Pune-based Sagar Defence Engineering.

Capabilities of the Boats

The founder of Sagar Defence Engineering, Nikunj Parashar, shared insights during the ongoing Naval Innovation and Indigenisation Organisation exhibition at the Bharat Mandapam explained, “These boats will provide significant tactical advantages in underwater and surface warfare as they have multi-mission capabilities.

The boats have two cameras (advanced cameras) in front and back for surveillance and also possess a day and night tracking system. and are armed with 12.7mm SRCG gun for neutralizing any threat and can be easily controlled from a remote station and is also equipped with an Unmanned Underwater Vehicle. from which one can control multiple boats

These cutting-edge boats are capable of operating 48 hours in a single fuel tank and offer 360-degree external and internal situational awareness. In addition to the GPS, the boast was equipped with ISRO’s navigational system (NAVIC), which ensures navigation even if signals are lost. Out of the 12 boats, 10 of them will be retained by the Indian Navy, and two boats will be provided to the Indian Army for operations in Pangong Tso.

The Navy’s recent approval is a significant step forward, and the next phase will involve the issuance of a request for proposal followed by the delivery of the technologically advanced boats. The boats are named Mata Matangi, and they can operate at night, possess a payload capacity exceeding 2000kg, and can attain speeds of 50 knots and more. It also has the capability of withstanding topples and rising waves up to six meters in length

Operations In LAC

Pangong Tso, a 134 km long saltwater lake situated at the height of 4,350 meters in Eastern Ladakh, has been under intense surveillance by both Indian and Chinese forces along the Line of Actual Control (LAC). Two-thirds of the lake is found in China, and one-third portion of the glacial lake is in India.

In response to the Chinese threats, the Indian Army had previously ordered 12 boats and 17 troop-carrying fiberglass boats from the Indian DPSU Goa Shipyard Limited (GSL). The addition of these unmanned boats is a strategic move to enhance Indian forces’ surveillance capabilities and counter PLA Heavier Type 92 Patrol Boats in the Region.

Indian Navy Drone Swarms

In addition to the unmanned boats, the navy has also placed an order of 30 underwater swarming drones referred to as Autonomous Underwater Vehicles (AUV) from Sagar Defence Engineering. These AUVs will be used for mine detection and countermeasures. Parashar explained their functionality by saying, “All these AUVs communicate with each other beneath the sea. When a Mother AUV identifies an underwater mine, it will send another AUV for surveillance and dispatch an extended AUV to defuse the mine or neutralize the mine.

Apart from mine detection and neutralisation, these AUVs can be used for hydrographic survey and asset monitoring. Furthermore, the Navy has ordered seven more drones designed for cargo lifting and medical evaluation purposes and to enhance its overall mission capabilities and reinforce India’s maritime security efforts along the coastline and the strategically vital Pangong Lake.

Pune Defence Start-Up To Provide ‘Unmanned’ Weaponised Boats, Undersea Drones To Armed Forces To Counter Chinese Forays

A Pune-based Defence organisation called Sagar Defence Engineering Limited has offered marvellous and strategically advanced weaponised boat...

www.indiandefensenews.in

 

[Fatalis]

Ministry of Defence signs contract with Cochin Shipyard Limited for mid life upgrade, re-powering of INS Beas - ET Government

INS Beas Cochin Shipyard Mid Life Upgrade: After completion of Mid Life Upgrade and Re- Powering in 2026, INS Beas will join the active fleet of the Indian Navy with a modernized weapon suite and upgraded combat capability.

government.economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[Fatalis]

Ministry of Defence signs contract with Cochin Shipyard Limited for mid life upgrade, re-powering of INS Beas - ET Government

INS Beas Cochin Shipyard Mid Life Upgrade: After completion of Mid Life Upgrade and Re- Powering in 2026, INS Beas will join the active fleet of the Indian Navy with a modernized weapon suite and upgraded combat capability.

government.economictimes.indiatimes.com

Looks like P-16A frigates will serve beyond 2035 may be upto 2040s.

 

[binayak95]

Looks like P-16A frigates will serve beyond 2035 may be upto 2040s.

The Leander ultra stretch max pro plus variant will outlive and outfight most of her contemporaries

 

[jai jaganath]

The Leander ultra stretch max pro plus variant will outlive and outfight most of her contemporaries

Sirji when will GoI sign for predators
According to u

 

[shade]

2-4 LHD is very important for us...mistral or juan carlos type LHD is best for india. if they can carry upcoming american predator B drone, which can operate in carriers. that will boost navy power. with anti ship nd anti submarine helicopters these LHD is good force multiplayer. than our upcoming distroyer or firgate dont need to carry two helicopter. nd they focus on carry more missiles with one helicopter.

Iska kya update hai anyone know?
The Turks also recently built either one or two discount "Aircraft Carriers" out of the Juan Carlos LHD designs afaik, I don't know about the air wing but we need some of these for amphibious capabilies right?

 

[Fatalis]

Iska kya update hai anyone know?
The Turks also recently built either one or two discount "Aircraft Carriers" out of the Juan Carlos LHD designs afaik, I don't know about the air wing but we need some of these for amphibious capabilies right?

HSL is collaborating with Naval Group and L&T is collaborating with Navantia. These two are major bidders for the LHD project. RFI is out but AoN is still pending then RFP will come.

 

[Fatalis]

The Leander ultra stretch max pro plus variant will outlive and outfight most of her contemporaries

Chances are she will get GlideFire SSM, Scantar SSR, LTR-25 ASR and VL-SRSAM.

 

[blackleaf]

Chances are she will get GlideFire SSM, Scantar SSR, LTR-25 ASR and VL-SRSAM.

With diesel propulsion and modern radars, SSMs, and SAMs this would be a decent third rate frigate. Good enough for local operations.
We need the numbers so every extra hull count.

 

[binayak95]

Chances are she will get GlideFire SSM, Scantar SSR, LTR-25 ASR and VL-SRSAM.

GlideFire? Its some time off production at the moment. Till then the SSN 25s will suffice I suppose