Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[SwordOfDarkness]

Idiotic musing

How feasible would it be to get 54 FA-18 for our Naval fleet, but to get FA-18 C/D instead of E/F? They are mostly retired, so airframe stress will be an issue, but I suppose they could be refurbished and upgraded at a minimal cost compared to the other two options.

And capability wise, the change is noticeable, but not dramatic. They also utilise a variant of the F-404 engine, so logistics shouldnt be that hard.

 

[binayak95]

Upgraded INS Trishul with:
1. SRGM
2. Scantar SSR
3. Lynx FCR
4. Brahmos VLS
5. AK-630M CIWS
6. SRCG - 04

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Bye bye kashtan. Good riddance!

 

[binayak95]

Idiotic musing

How feasible would it be to get 54 FA-18 for our Naval fleet, but to get FA-18 C/D instead of E/F? They are mostly retired, so airframe stress will be an issue, but I suppose they could be refurbished and upgraded at a minimal cost compared to the other two options.

And capability wise, the change is noticeable, but not dramatic. They also utilise a variant of the F-404 engine, so logistics shouldnt be that hard.

Not enough thrust I would think - and avionics are older. Not obsolete, but not modern either. If we are going that route, buy 2 squadrons of ex USMC Harrier IIs.

 

[Fatalis]

Upgraded INS Mysore

 

[blackleaf]

Upgraded INS Mysore

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Will they ever get around to upgrading from the arm launchers?

 

[Fatalis]

Will they ever get around to upgrading from the arm launchers?

Yeah. The VL-SRSAM will replace the single arm launchers.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Upgraded INS Mysore

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what all was changed?

 

[Fatalis]

It's so weird that P-15 didn't get VL-Shtil during their MLU. I can understand that IN doesn't want to introduce a new SAM into the fleet but then upcoming Tushil class is supposed to have it. Also, the model of Triput class from GSL shows the arm launched Shtil instead of VL Shtil.

 

[Fatalis]

what all was changed?

Along with Scantar SSR.

 

[Fatalis]

And for the nth time:

 

[jai jaganath]

And for the nth time:

Sauce

 

[shade]

Sauce

KLPD attempts based on outdated news from Jan 2023

Here is the L K material

Navy may approach govt for 3 more Kalvari submarines

The fifth diesel attack submarine 1775 tonne INS Vagir was commissioned by Navy Chief Admiral Hari Kumar on Monday at MDL in Mumbai and the sixth of the Kalvari class INS Vagsheer is expected to be commissioned later this year or early 2024.

www.hindustantimes.com

Here is the Danda, from just two weeks ago

India's Submarine Building Capacity To Remain Idle As Last Kalvari-Class Boat Goes To Trials Without New Project In Sight

INS Vaghsheer, the sixth and final boat of the Kalvari-class or Scorpene-class, has commenced sea trials

swarajyamag.com

Meanwhile idk how many submarines the PLAN has, probably 4 times more than ours

 

[NeXoft007]

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[v952010]

 

[v952010]

Germany, India near $5.2bn deal to build six submarines. Why is this a big deal?

The preliminary agreement will be signed in the presence of Germany's defence minister Boris Pistorius who arrived in New Delhi Tuesday for a two-day visit

www.hindustantimes.com

 

[Fatalis]

CSL is soon going to start the manufacturing of NGMV. Also, we are supposed to get the RFP for NGC very soon. NGMV are around 2000-2500 ton vessels but on the other hand NGC are to have ~3500 ton as their displacement.

Both of this projects paint some similarities along with some difference:

1. According the old RFI, NGMV are supposed to have STAR radar as their primary sensor whereas NGC are supposed to have MFSTAR.

2. NGC are required to have a proper ASW suits coupled with VDS which is lacking in NGMV.

3. Both are to have proper short range SAM system along with Point Defence systems.

4. Both are going to carry 8 Brahmos missiles in VLS as their primary armament.

For me NGMV are like a replacement for Khukri class and Veer class but NGC is looking more like a proper replacement for Talwar and Brahmputra class frigates instead of the Kora class.

 

[Fatalis]

CSL will launch 3 ASWSWC simultaneously in November 2023. The first one will join IN in November 2024.

 

[Fatalis]

Some updates from GRSE:

1. Sandhayak class SVL: First ship is 80% complete and will be handed over around October - November 2023. Second and third ships are 70% and 55% complete. The fourth ship will be launched mid or end of June. The project will be completed by 2024.

2. Arnala class Corvette: Two ships are launched with 50% completion. Third will be launched mid of June. Delivery will start in 2024 and go up to 2027.

3. Himgiri class Frigates: The first ship is 50% complete, the second ship is around 45% complete and the third ship is around 30% complete. The delivery will commence from mid 2025 and go up to end 2026.

 

[Fatalis]

Some upcoming naval projects:

1. 08 Next Generation Corvettes: AoN accorded. RFP by mid 2024 and contract signing by mid 2025. It will be divided between L1 and L2 with L1 building 5 and L2 building 3 ships respectively.

2. 14 Fast Patrol Vessels for ICG: RFP out.

3. 06 NGOPV for ICG: RFP out.

4. 01 Cadet Training Ship for ICG: RFP out.

5. 01 Research Ship for Polar Oceanographic Research Center: RFP out.

6. 02 Multi Purpose Vessels for IN: RFP expected in 2024.

7. 05 Next Generation Survey Vessels: RFP expected in 2025.

8. 120 FIC for IN: RFP expected in 2024.

9. 01 National Hospital Ship of IN: RFP in 2025.

10. 18 Fast Patrol Vessels for ICG: RFP in 2025.

11. 22 Fast Interceptor Boats for ICG: RFP in 2027.

12. 04 LHD: RFP expected in 2025.

13. 21 Next Generation FAC for IN: RFP expected in 2024.

 

[v952010]

notice the ship behind them