Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Adm Kenobi]

Believe this is for the upgrade of IN' existing fleet of fighters (i.e.-MiG-29K).
It is still worth to upgrade these planes and operate them from naval air stations/Vikky-Vikyan
Bet MiG-29K upgrade would be completed before MKI? (jets worth 2 sq)

 

[flanker99]

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Believe this is for the upgrade of IN' existing fleet of fighters (i.e.-MiG-29K).
It is still worth to upgrade these planes and operate them from naval air stations/Vikky-Vikyan
Bet MiG-29K upgrade would be completed before MKI? (jets worth 2 sq)

I dont understand why they are asking aesa radar through sprint ...isnt uttam the perfect ready made option for it

 

[Vamsi]

Teddy won't be ready for 10-12 years and we need carrier fighters within a couple years. 57 is a nice good number to get the fighters we need for this decade. Teddy will be the follow up program.

If we buy brand new 57 fighters,then the requirement for TEDBF will be reduced from 100 aircrafts to 40 you know. Then it won't be economical to develop a brand new fighter.

 

[mist_consecutive]

numbers over 50 means for both the carriers, we can say goodbye to Teddy then

Given that there is no clear plan for IAC2, it means it is a good 10 years away at least. I don't see TEDBF getting ready anytime before AMCA, as it is a low-observable Naval fighter, and will share a lot of components with AMCA, so the 2030-32 timeline if we are extremely hopeful.

If we buy brand new 57 fighters,then the requirement for TEDBF will be reduced from 100 aircrafts to 40 you know. Then it won't be economical to develop a brand new fighter.

IAC1 can carry 26 jets, and IAC2 will probably carry a bit more (30-36?), I don't see 57 fighters as an unreasonable requirement.
Plus, the current maritime strike role is delegated to Air Force using Jaguar and Su-30MKI, which in the future (post-2030? after Jaguars and Su-30MKI start to retire) should be taken care of by the Navy instead.

So it makes sense for Navy to maintain 5-6 Sqns for carrier-ops, and another 3-4 Sqns for dedicated Naval warfare roles (Naval strike, EW, sea-dominance, etc.).

Rest assured, the Navy by far is the most visionary and indigenous-system-focused force, so they won't just ditch TEDBF.

 

[Blademaster]

If we buy brand new 57 fighters,then the requirement for TEDBF will be reduced from 100 aircrafts to 40 you know. Then it won't be economical to develop a brand new fighter.

No it wont because IN will get more carriers and TEDBF can be a good replacement for the Rafales.

 

[vampyrbladez]

P 76 (AIP) instead of P 75I ?

Sources said that the Naval Design Bureau is working on a conventional diesel-electric submarine with AIP technology that will be the future of India’s submarine plans.

“There are a number of factors that go into designing a submarine. Project 76 will be an in-house project. We are now focusing on the systems and the technology that the submarine must have and are designing the submarine around that,” a source said.

Another source said that the design phase should be completed in another year and half.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thepri...vy-decommissions-ins-sindhudhvaj/1043167/?amp

http://idrw.org/project-76-indigenous-conventional-diesel-electric-submarine-design-likely-by-2025/

 

[Cheran]

Huh?

Did "somebody" send a letter to port authorities?

If anyone has seen anything in the news, please post.

Update

 

[flanker99]

"Overt Defense understands that in June, the MoD had asked the industry to provide their manufacturing readiness for dozens of new land based and naval equipment. This includes Project-17 Bravo (P-17B), which will be a follow-on order for P-17A class frigates. It also includes both the NGD and NGF separately, confirming that both projects are on the anvil. It is possible that the NGF project may be initiated only after progression of P-17B, which itself is likely to be contracted only by 2025-26 when all P-17A frigates would be ready for service."

The Next Generation: An Overview Of Indian Navy's Surface Fleet Plans

This article will provide an overview of the known plans for Indian Navy's future manned surface fleet comprising NGD, NGF, NGC, NGMV, IAC-2 and others.

t.co

 

[Love Charger]

Huh?

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Did "somebody" send a letter to port authorities?

If anyone has seen anything in the news, please post.

Update

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Not much news ,

 

[Cheran]

Massa showing off stuff

 

[Adm Kenobi]

"Overt Defense understands that in June, the MoD had asked the industry to provide their manufacturing readiness for dozens of new land based and naval equipment. This includes Project-17 Bravo (P-17B), which will be a follow-on order for P-17A class frigates. It also includes both the NGD and NGF separately, confirming that both projects are on the anvil. It is possible that the NGF project may be initiated only after progression of P-17B, which itself is likely to be contracted only by 2025-26 when all P-17A frigates would be ready for service."

The Next Generation: An Overview Of Indian Navy's Surface Fleet Plans

This article will provide an overview of the known plans for Indian Navy's future manned surface fleet comprising NGD, NGF, NGC, NGMV, IAC-2 and others.

t.co

P-17B & NGF being different projects probably indicates that MoD is willing to provide IN with a fleet of more than 24 frigates, would be a nice step if they follow it and don't dump P-17B. Wonder if WNC will get them, their frigate fleet (Talwar and Brahmaputra) is poor in terms of AAW, P-17B can help improve that.

To be seen on how this plays out.

 

[gslv markIII]

P-17B & NGF being different projects probably indicates that MoD is willing to provide IN with a fleet of more than 24 frigates, would be a nice step if they follow it and don't dump P-17B. Wonder if WNC will get them, their frigate fleet (Talwar and Brahmaputra) is poor in terms of AAW, P-17B can help improve that.

To be seen on how this plays out.

I thought 4 out of 7 P17A will be allocated to WNC?

 

[Adm Kenobi]

I thought 4 out of 7 P17A will be allocated to WNC?

Eastern Fleet will have Carrier Battle Group: Vice Admiral

Once trials are over, INS Vikrant will be based in Vizag

www.thehindu.com

I haven't heard anything about P17A being part of WNC, and ENC officials are present at most of the launches. ENC needs those 7 FFGs, rn they only have 3 P17s. WNC has 6 Talwar (+4 under construction) and 3 Brahmaputra.
ENC will have 10 FFG & WNC will have 13 (total for both).

The seven Nilgiri-class stealth guided missile frigates under Project 17 Alpha, being built at Mazagon, Mumbai, and at Garden Reach, Kolkata, would be part of the Eastern Naval Command, Vice Admiral Dasgupta said.

 

[flanker99]

Piece of junk

 

[Asmaka Mahajanapada]

Piece of junk

I was just asking for it's whereabouts in the other thread and I see this. This is sad but not surprising as long we have sold out lobbyists in the military. I am sure the Russians were delighted to win a lucrative deal out of selling scrap metal.

 

[Blademaster]

I was just asking for it's whereabouts in the other thread and I see this. This is sad but not surprising as long we have sold out lobbyists in the military. I am sure the Russians were delighted to win a lucrative deal out of selling scrap metal.

We could have had 3 indigenous carriers by now with all that money and time invested in this piece of junk.

 

[Akula]

Piece of junk

This carrier is our Admiral Kuznetsov.

 

[The Shrike]

Is there a separate thread for INS Vikramaditya? I was curious about it's deployment history, beyond Indian coast itself - for example has it been deployed to the middle East, east african coast, beyond malaka st. etc?

 

[Love Charger]

Please keep a tugboat with it everywhere it goes

 

[Dark Sorrow]

Piece of junk

The junk must be scrapped.
The cost of upkeep is more than ROI.