Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[India Super Power]

Am not sir for sure. No we can't. Unfortunately we don't have an universal launcher. Barak and Brahmos have different VLS. DRDO is working towards a common system. So they can't increase Brahmos without adding VLS for Brahmos.

I am saying more nos of brahmos vls

 

[FalconSlayers]

 

[India Super Power]

Last scorpene will have drdo aip right for testing?

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

I am saying more nos of brahmos vls

Yes it can be increased by anothrr 8.

 

[Lonewolf]

Yes it can be increased by anothrr 8.

Isn't it better to go for some land attack missile plus vlsrsam ??

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Last scorpene will have drdo aip right for testing?

Nope. That plan has been dropped. I think DRDO will.be given an older submarine from IN which might.be end of life to test the AIP.

 

[johnj]

No ship is getting it till their mid life upgrade. Barak is getting costly as hell. India is copying some aspects of Barak in their new MRSAM. I don't think for the next 10 years anyway.
Again it also depends upon requirements. If IN decides we are going to fight only in the IOR, 32 SAMs and 8 AshM is more than enough for frigates.

Some funny thing is our older, but not.too old ships Shivalik class, which we built with some design consultancy from Russia, has 32 Sam, 24 SSM, 8 AshM etc. Our new ships have lesser loads.

Our newest destroyer has just extra 8 more AshM slots than our frigates. We can build 32 more. It's all fine if we fight within BoB, Andamans and Arabian Sea. But in open waters, it's not enough.

I think brahmos missile more expensive than barak8, but not sure. Barak comes with entire system, including 4 fcr, missile, vls, computer etc. Considering pn, 8 missile is a lot.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Isn't it better to go for some land attack missile plus vlsrsam ??

We don't know the internal architecture of our ships. IN has not publicly commented on what we perceive as underarmed ships, their future plans etc. Its better to have lot more and I do believe we have space for more. Reason being our old Shivalik class frigates is more armed than our newest destroyer. But again sensors and electronics are 20 years old and no Barak on them.

And yes our old ships carry Dhanush BM, Klub missiles. I haven't seen our newest ships have provision for BM or Land attack missiles. Theoretically Brahmos can be used as Land attack from ships too but range limited to 300km. Should be awaiting for Nirbhay.

 

[johnj]

We don't know the internal architecture of our ships. IN has not publicly commented on what we perceive as underarmed ships, their future plans etc. Its better to have lot more and I do believe we have space for more. Reason being our old Shivalik class frigates is more armed than our newest destroyer. But again sensors and electronics are 20 years old and no Barak on them.

And yes our old ships carry Dhanush BM, Klub missiles. I haven't seen our newest ships have provision for BM or Land attack missiles. Theoretically Brahmos can be used as Land attack from ships too but range limited to 300km. Should be awaiting for Nirbhay.

''IN has not publicly commented on what we perceive as underarmed ships '' - yes they did.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

I think brahmos missile more expensive than barak8, but not sure. Barak comes with entire system, including 4 fcr, missile, vls, computer etc. Considering pn, 8 missile is a lot.

I think it's the Barak is expensive. Brahmos is.an JV by name. 90% by parts and 80% of costs have already been indigenised. With Barak it's not so. India still.havent started to replace Israeli parts yet.

But anyway, even if it's costly Brahmos is required. Number might be 8 or 16.;

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

''IN has not publicly commented on what we perceive as underarmed ships '' - yes they did.

Really? Where? When? Can you please point me to the news

 

[India Super Power]

Nope. That plan has been dropped. I think DRDO will.be given an older submarine from IN which might.be end of life to test the AIP.

But in some recent article it was clearly written that aip will be installed in last scorpene
I will search it now

 

[johnj]

Really? Where? When? Can you please point me to the news

I don't have any link. I think navy officer give some interview to news paper. question asked about women officers and low weapons on ships.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

But in some recent article it was clearly written that aip will be installed in last scorpene
I will search it now

It was told DRDO AIP will be used in last 2 scorpenees initially. Seems Navy told DRDO to.prove working in a working platform and not on new ships as Submarine arm of IN is damn low.

 

[THESIS THORON]

this is not from peedf, this is from russian defence forum.

 

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

this is not from peedf, this is from russian defence forum.



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People there have a bit too high superiority complex.

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

this is not from peedf, this is from russian defence forum.



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Someone needs to educate this ReTARD about the 7 Nilgiri class frigates which India is building.
Far superior to any surface combatant of the coast guard that is the Pak Navy.

 

[THESIS THORON]

Someone needs to educate this ReTARD about the 7 Nilgiri class frigates which India is building.
Far superior to any surface combatant of the coast guard that is the Pak Navy.

bro, this is not from peedf it is from Russian defense forum

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

Nuclear Submarines of Indian Navy Cmde Anil Jai Singh I Aadi

 

[FactsPlease]

this is not from peedf, this is from russian defence forum.



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Throw this at their face:

Western Sanctions Are Driving Delays In Fielding Russia’s New A-100 Radar Plane: Report

Already running late, the much-needed A-100 Premier now won’t be in service until at least 2024.

www.thedrive.com

IMO: A-100 is strategically much, much more important than any navy assets Russia has today. They can not even speed it up. How do they expect people appreciate their ships ...
- admit that I didn't spend much time to verify information on that link, though
-- and to be fair, it did mention that Russian is working to solve this matter, esp the part of Su-30SM2