Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

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Being offered by Pipavav as a license build.

 

[arnabmit]

Phalanx+SeaRAM: very costly + no ToT + typical idiotic US user clauses. Accuracy not independently measured.

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[arnabmit]

Oto Malara 76/62 SR: Does not have integrated SAM. Unless Finmeccanica wants to offer MBDA CAMM along with it, and manage to integrate both, it is out of the race. Slave to main sensors/radars for target detection and acquisition. Integrated pencil beam radar in gun cupola guiding the beam riding DART projectiles with 40km range are massively impressive.

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[arnabmit]

Pantsir-M: This is the latest beast to be unleashed by the Ruskis. Going up on all new Russian warships and old ones getting refitted, replacing the Kashtan, including the Admiral Kuznetsov. Plus benefit of being a single unit stand alone system, which can be slaved to other radars/sensors if needed.

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

Navy's Karwar project gets green nod for Phase-II | idrw.org

 

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INS Sahyadri Makes Port Call at Darwin, Australia

 

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India’s defence sector to boost use of Natural Rubber | idrw.org

 

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Defence News - India's seniormost submariner takes over as chief of the Andaman & Nicobar Command

 

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Seabird Phase II Completion will make INS Kadamba largest naval base in Asia | idrw.org

 

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Dhruv Chopper Likely to Be Deployed On-board INS Vikramaditya

Dhruv Chopper Likely to Be Deployed On-board INS Vikramaditya - The New Indian Express

 

[Twinblade]

Correct me if I am wrong. We have the following torpedo projects:-

Torpedo Advanced; Light, (TAL)/Advanced Eperimental Torpedo (AET) Shyena : In service since 2012.

Heavy weight torpedo, Kazind No reference found other than L&T's website:-
Twin Tube Torpedo Launcher

ITTL is a ship deck mounted anti submarine weapon system with a provision to launch 21" Heavy Weight Torpedoes (such as Russian CET 65E anti submarine & CET 53-65 KE anti ship and Indian torpedoes such as Takshak, Kazind, etc) from local and remote control stations It also caters for firing under emergency conditions.

Heavy Weight torpedo (HWT), Takshak and Varunastra: Is Takshak the predecessor to Varunastra ? Or are Varunastra and Takshak different versions of the same torpedo ?

Takshak has two versions, a submarine-launched variant with wire guidance and a ship-launched one with autonomous guidance. Varunastra is an advanced version of the ship-launched HWT.

Underwater might
Also, this:-

The NSTL has earlier developed autonomous underwater vehicles - TAL (light water torpedo), and Takshak (heavy weight torpedo). Varunastra carries the Takshak.

Varunastra ready for trials - The New Indian Express
So, is Takshak in service ?

Advanced Light Weight Torpedo (ALWT) : Status, under development

Heavy Weight Torpedo with Thermal Propulsion, Shakthi: Status, under development.

@Warhawk, @Archer, @arnabmit

 

[Warhawk]

The Light Weight Torpedo (TAL) has been indigenously developed by the National Science and Technology Laboratory (NSTL), Visakhapatnam. It is an electrically propelled, self-homing torpedo which can be launched both from ships and helicopters. It can hunt submarines with a speed of 33 Knots with endurance of six minutes in shallow and deep waters. The TAL weighs around 220kg. BDL is manufacturing 25 such torpedoes at its Visakhapatnam Unit. The wire-guided and ship-launched Varunastra torpedo is equipped with a high-speed electric propulsion with powerful manoeuvring abilities and a low-drift navigational system. It has acoustic homing with wide-look angle, autonomous guidance, durable recovery aids and lethal warheads. Carrying a high-energy explosive warhead weighing 200kg, the 7.6-metre long Varunastra can hit a hostile target within a range of 30km. It is estimated to have a weight of 1,500kg. The Takshak has two versions, a submarine-launched variant with wire-guidance and an aircraft-launched one with autonomous guidance.

Brochures of all DRDO-developed torpedoes are available at:
Indian Indigenous Underwater Weapon Systems by DRDO

That's the best answer I can get


Too many conflicting reports actually. Several sources including the DRDO site mention Takshak to be a thermal torpedo.

Also from a hindu article :

"Varunastra" an electric torpedo being developed by the Naval Science and Technological Laboratory (NSTL), will be ready by 2009. The torpedo will target ships and will be the first heavyweight to be inducted into the Navy. The 7.6 m, 1,500 kg torpedo will be more lethal and has a range of up to 30 km.
A new autonomous underwater vehicle (AUV) will be fully developed in two years. Once developed, the 1.5 ton AUV will be able to carry a payload of 500 kg. The vehicle will have an "intelligent" system and will be self-propellant and can also hover at a particular spot but the enemy cannot detect it. Like an unmanned aircraft, it will intercept the target. A Thermal Torpedo is also indigenously developed at the NSTL.

The Hindu : Andhra Pradesh / Visakhapatnam News : 'Varunastra' to be ready by 2009

My guess would that Varunastra is an ship based version of the Takshak torpedo and Kazind might be the official name of the TAL.

 

[Twinblade]

My guess would that Varunastra is an ship based version of the Takshak torpedo and Kazind might be the official name of the TAL.

Torpedo Advanced Light/Advanced Experimental Torpedo is definitely Shyena and Thermal Torpedo is definitely Shakthi as confirmed by latest DRDO literature. Kazind also cannot be the air launched Drill and Practice torpedo equivalent of A244-S made by NSTL because it is meant to be launched from a 650mm tube. If Takshak is submarine launched and Varunastra is Takshak's ship launched version, then it must imply that Takshak is a 533mm torpedo that is launched by fitting an adapter in 650mm tube like the type 53 torpedo.

 

[arnabmit]

Not sure, but it seems:

> Shyena is the Technology demonstrator, which evolved into the production variant TAL.

> Varunastra is not just a torpedo. It is the whole torpedo system, which includes the Takshak wire guided torpedo (in production), Shakti thermal torpedo (under development), Launcher, FCS etc.

> Kazind seems to be an undisclosed project as of now. Might be a joint venture between India and some other company (Read: Kaz-Ind like Brah-Mos)

Correct me if I am wrong. We have the following torpedo projects:-

Torpedo Advanced; Light, (TAL)/Advanced Eperimental Torpedo (AET) Shyena : In service since 2012.

Heavy weight torpedo, Kazind No reference found other than L&T's website:-
Twin Tube Torpedo Launcher



Heavy Weight torpedo (HWT), Takshak and Varunastra: Is Takshak the predecessor to Varunastra ? Or are Varunastra and Takshak different versions of the same torpedo ?

Underwater might
Also, this:-

Varunastra ready for trials - The New Indian Express
So, is Takshak in service ?

Advanced Light Weight Torpedo (ALWT) : Status, under development

Heavy Weight Torpedo with Thermal Propulsion, Shakthi: Status, under development.

@Warhawk, @Archer, @arnabmit

 

[arnabmit]

Not sure, but it seems:

> Shyena is the Technology demonstrator, which evolved into the production variant TAL.

> Varunastra is not just a torpedo. It is the whole torpedo system, which includes the Takshak wire guided torpedo (in production), Shakti thermal torpedo (under development), Launcher, FCS etc.

> Kazind seems to be an undisclosed project as of now. Might be a joint venture between India and some other company (Read: Kaz-Ind, portmanteau like Brah-Mos)

Correct me if I am wrong. We have the following torpedo projects:-

Torpedo Advanced; Light, (TAL)/Advanced Eperimental Torpedo (AET) Shyena : In service since 2012.

Heavy weight torpedo, Kazind No reference found other than L&T's website:-
Twin Tube Torpedo Launcher



Heavy Weight torpedo (HWT), Takshak and Varunastra: Is Takshak the predecessor to Varunastra ? Or are Varunastra and Takshak different versions of the same torpedo ?

Underwater might
Also, this:-

Varunastra ready for trials - The New Indian Express
So, is Takshak in service ?

Advanced Light Weight Torpedo (ALWT) : Status, under development

Heavy Weight Torpedo with Thermal Propulsion, Shakthi: Status, under development.

@Warhawk, @Archer, @arnabmit

 

[Warhawk]

@Twinblade

*Wouldn't 21" be equal to 533 mm ?
*The Varunastra seems to a active acoustic homing wire guided heavy torpedo whereas the Thakshak is a wake homing wire guided heavy torpedo.
Note: India was trying to reverse engineer the Type-53 wake homing torpedo with Ukrainian/Russian held.
*The Kazind is probably the name given to the Varunastra practice torpedo.
::: HBL Power Systems Limited :::

Note: Both the batteries for HWT are designed by NSTL.

 

[Twinblade]

@Twinblade

*Wouldn't 21" be equal to 533 mm ?
*The Varunastra seems to a active acoustic homing wire guided heavy torpedo whereas the Thakshak is a wake homing wire guided heavy torpedo.
Note: India was trying to reverse engineer the Type-53 wake homing torpedo with Ukrainian/Russian held.
*The Kazind is probably the name given to the Varunastra practice torpedo.
::: HBL Power Systems Limited :::

Note: Both the batteries for HWT are designed by NSTL.

Haha, brainfart on my part. Thanks for correction . A 533 mm practice torpedo would make sense.

 

[Warhawk]

@arnabmit
Highly likely that Kazind is a JV. The only JV regarding torpedos known so far is for the development of a light weight torpedo. WASS (50 per cent), along with DCNS and Thales (50 per cent) of France had formed a consortium called Eurotorp which was in talks with NSTL to jointly develop National Future Light Weight Torpedo which would be comparable in capabilities to the current top-ranker Mu90. There were some hiccups though and NSTL did send a team to solve the issues. But then no news has appeared so far.
The IN had a requirement of 300 such torpedos.

 

[Bheeshma]

India and Kazhakistan were collaborating on thermal torpedos. I am sure KAZIND is the resulting torpedo. Hopefully enters production soon.

India-Kazakhastan developing Thermal Torpedoes, page 1
India To Use Torpedo Plant In Kyrgyzstan, But Where Are The Russians? | EurasiaNet.org
India to develop state of the art torpedo testing centre in Kyrgyzstan :: Kabar - Kyrgyz National News Agency

 

[Twinblade]

India and Kazhakistan were collaborating on thermal torpedos. I am sure KAZIND is the resulting torpedo. Hopefully enters production soon.

India-Kazakhastan developing Thermal Torpedoes, page 1
India To Use Torpedo Plant In Kyrgyzstan, But Where Are The Russians? | EurasiaNet.org
India to develop state of the art torpedo testing centre in Kyrgyzstan :: Kabar - Kyrgyz National News Agency

Good find @Bheeshma. So Kazind is related to Shakthi/Shakti thermal torpedo program.