Indian Naval Aviation

[Kunal Biswas]

As far as i know they are design to carry KH-35..

They can be used for both Anti-Ship as wll as Anti-Sub..

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@Decklander Sir, May shed more light here..

 

[gadeshi]

A MiG-29K production line video:

 

[Decklander]

As far as i know they are design to carry KH-35..

They can be used for both Anti-Ship as wll as Anti-Sub..

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@Decklander Sir, May shed more light here..

I have heard of Anti-Sub rockets but have never heard of Anti-sub missiles? The Russians have a rocket which is fired in air and than it falls into the sea to release a Torpedo or nuke depth charge. But that system is too heavy to be mounted on an ac.

 

[Decklander]

@Kunal Biswas sir,a small question for you-can the Tu-142MKE of the I.N. carry any sort of of anti-shipping missile like Klub-S or Sea Eagle?i read somewhere that the I.N. was gonna modify these aircrafts to carry the air launched version of Brahmos(btw according to the source it could carry 6 Brahmos missles at a time),is there any update on this?

yes, they do carry such missiles. Infact even IL-38s were modified by HAL to carry Sea Eagles on pylons way back in early 90s.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Sir, By anti-submarine i meant Torpedoes and depth charges ..

I have heard of Anti-Sub rockets but have never heard of Anti-sub missiles? The Russians have a rocket which is fired in air and than it falls into the sea to release a Torpedo or nuke depth charge. But that system is too heavy to be mounted on an ac.

 

[WMD]

There are many anti-sub missiles in existence eg- 91RE1/2 (Klub missile variant), ASROC etc.
I'm not sure if India has the anti-sub variant of Klub or if it can be carried by Tu-142.
Never heard of an anti-sub variant of sea eagle or Kh-35.

 

[Decklander]

There are many anti-sub missiles in existence eg- 91RE1/2 (Klub missile variant), ASROC etc.
I'm not sure if India has the anti-sub variant of Klub or if it can be carried by Tu-142.
Never heard of an anti-sub variant of sea eagle or Kh-35.

Well they are called missiles but actually they are essentially rockets which are designed to shorten the detection time by sub about the Torpedo having been fired at it. The Torpedo is launched in the gen area of the sub instead of travelling thur the water and giving a warning to the sub. It also has another advantage. The torpedo is driven by coaxial props driven by seawater activated batteries. If you preserve these batteries, the torpedo can spend more time searching for sub. A244S and Indian developed Torpedos have such features wherein they get into a search pattern in the water if they fail to lockon to a sub initially. They continue this search till their batteries are discharged and than they get deactivated and sink to the bootom of the sea. During such search the torpedo even changes its depth to go thru the layers of sea with diff temp and sound propagation quality

 

[arnabmit]

MiG-29s to be stationed aboard Vikramaditya and Vikrant | idrw.org

SOURCE: ITAR-TASS

The Indian Navy's Russian-made ship-based multirole MiG-29K/KUB jet fighters will be stationed aboard the Vikramaditya and Vikrant aircraft carriers.

India's Defence Minister A.K. Antony told the country's parliament on Tuesday, that the aircraft, the first squadron of which has become operational, would be deployed aboard the aircraft carriers.

Sixteen MiG-29K/KUB fighter aircraft have already been supplied to India under the main contract with Russia. Under the optional second contract, four aircraft were delivered in 2012 and in 2013.

A MiG official said that MiG had no problems with the delivery of extra 29 ship-based MiG-29K/KUB fighter planes. The planes were test flying in Goa.

Earlier, Alexander Fomin, Director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, said that the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier would be handed over to the Indian Navy in November 2013.

"The ship is to be put in a dock in April, go on sea trials in June and July and be officially handed over some time in November," he said. On September 23, 2012, the Vikramaditya returned to the shipyard to fix the problems that were detected during previous sea trials.

During the three-month sea trials the ship demonstrated excellent seaworthiness, speed of 29.3 knots and manoeuvrability. MiG specialists praised the ski-jump. The ship sailed for more than 12,000 miles, with 517 flights performed from its deck by aircraft and helicopters.

Russia's Northern Fleet aviation was involved in the sea trials: aircraft and helicopters flew around and over the ship in order to check its radar, air defence, communication and control systems. During the first stage of the trials in the White Sea, the ship's physical fields were measured, and the crew practiced fuelling and fresh water replenishing operations. The ship was initially scheduled to be commissioned on December 4, 2012. However its transfer to India was postponed until the end of 2013 after the problems during the sea trials.

Under a package inter-governmental agreement signed in New Delhi in January 2004, the body of the Admiral Gorshkov was transferred to India for free subject to its upgrading at Sevmash and armament with Russian aircraft.

Russia will also train the Indian crew of about 1,500 and create an infrastructure for the ship in the Indian Ocean.

The overall cost of the contract was estimated at $1.5 billion, of which about $974 million were intended for the conversion of the ship into a full-scale aircraft carrier. All work was supposed to be completed in 2008. However the completion date has been postponed. Russia claimed that the volume of work had been underestimated and demanded an additional payment of $2.2 billion.

The Admiral Gorshkov was built in Nikolayev under the name of Baku and put to service in the Northern Fleet in 1987. It is 283 metres long, 51 metres wide, with water displacement of over 45,000 tonnes.

 

[Neil]

Indian Navy Requests New Patrol Aircraft


India's Ministry of Defense (MoD) has issued a request for proposal for nine medium-range maritime reconnaissance (MRMR) aircraft for the Indian Navy, plus 38 anti-ship missiles. The Navy has taken delivery of the first of eight Boeing P-8I Poseidon jets, and Boeing Harpoon anti-ship missiles. Although the new RFP seems to encourage smaller, lower-cost airframes and weapons, its terms may limit the bids.

The RFP states the aircraft must fly a transit of 400 nm at 300 knots and patrol 400 nm for four hours at a height of 10,000 feet, configured with two missiles with a range of about 50 nm. The MoD has called for a pre-bid meeting with the vendors in early October to clarify queries. "It is confusing. Does the Indian navy want turboprops or jets?" asked one potential vendor.

The RFP was sent to eight potential vendors: Airbus Military (for the C-295 MPA); Alenia (for the ATR 72 MPA); Antonov (for an MPA based on the An-70); Boeing; Elta (for an MPA based on the Bombardier Q400); Lockheed Martin (for the SC-130 version of the Hercules); Saab (for the 340 or 2000 MSAs); and Embraer (for anEMB-145-based MPA).

It is believed that as an alternative to more P-8Is, Boeing could propose its maritime surveillance aircraft (MSA) with the recently identified Bombardier Challenger 605 as the platform. This has the same sensor suite as already carried by the P-8A Poseidon, but could offer lower operating costs. "As [they do] elsewhere in the world, price matters and capability matters"¦we are in discussions with a number of Asia-Pacific countries, and there are several customers interested in [the MSA's] capabilities," Chris Chadwick, president of Boeing Military Aircraft, said at the Paris Air Show in June.

Some in the industry have questioned the logic of the Indian Navy's choosing the same platform for the MRMR as it did for the long-range requirement for which the P-8I was chosen. "Jets are not efficient doing patrol at low levels and dropping life rafts. Ideally, the navy needs three sizes of aircraft," said an official related to manufacturing.

Indian Navy Requests New Patrol Aircraft | idrw.org

 

[SajeevJino]

My Vote for SC 130

 

[lookieloo]

My Vote for SC 130

SC-130 and An-70 seem ridiculously oversized for the role. You may as well buy more P-8s if you want something that big. Hell, An-70 bigger than the A400M.

 

[SajeevJino]

SC-130 and An-70 seem ridiculously oversized for the role. You may as well buy more P-8s if you want something that big. Hell, An-70 bigger than the A400M.

Impressed in C 130 Hercules ..That's why I want to see Sea Hercules in India Navy

 

[Rizvi Khan]

@nitesh, We cant use these systems as we dont have the right platform (CATOBAR capable ACC) So for now Ka-31 would do the job just fine. Once we have CATOBAR capablity we could consider that or we could collaborate with ruskies or french to develop our own.

 

[bhramos]

Maritime MiGs - Floggers of No.2 Squadron at INS Rajali

Aircraft of the IAF's only Maritime Strike MiG-27 squadron - No.2 "Flying Arrows" line up on the tarmac at INS Rajali in Arakonnam Airfield. The Squadron pilots form the digit '2' on the tarmac.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

^^

The Squadron pilots form the digit '2' on the tarmac.

Those are the ground crews. The pilots are in the Officers' Club.

 

[SilentKiller]

My Vote for SC 130

Mine too.

Reasons:
Will save cost as IAF is using it too
Indian Navy pilots can be given same training as Airforce, saves cost also

 

[arnabmit]

Russia to deliver six Mig-29k warplanes to India | idrw.org

Russia is set to deliver six more jet fighters of 4++ generation this year to Indian Air Force as per a deal with New Delhi, the MIG aircraft corporation said Wednesday.

"India currently exploits 21 aircrafts. In line with a contract, we must deliver 29 planes by 2015. Last year, we've delivered four planes. This year, we've delivered one plane and six aircrafts remain to be delivered," MIG's director general Sergei Korotkov told reporters at the MAKS air show, Xinhua reported.

The six-day MAKS show kicked off in Zhukovsky city outside Moscow Tuesday. MIG signed a $1.5 billion deal with India in 2010 to deliver 29 MIG-29K-KUB warplanes.

This is the second such contract between the Russian aircraft construction corporation and New Delhi. The first deal to supply India with 16 MIGs-29 was signed in 2004 and completed in 2011.

During MAKS, the Russian corporation also signed two deals worth $55 million to build a centre in India to service MIG's avionics and hardware, the corporation's spokesperson Elena Fedorova said.

MIG's partner in those deals is Basant Aerospace Private Ltd, she added.

MIG commenced production of new unified family of multi-role fighters of the 4++ generation in 2005.

The double-seat MIG-29K-KUB is a multi-role fighter intended for air-defence missions of naval forces, air superiority gaining, sea and ground target destruction with high precision guided weapons day and night and in any weather condition.

 

[ladder]

Indian Navy commissions aviation simulators

Kochi, Aug 29 (IANS) Two state-of-the-art simulators - a Flight and Tactical Simulator (FATS) for Seaking helicopters and a Water Survival Training Facility (WSTF) for aircrew - were commissioned here Thursday.
Vice Admiral Satish Soni, Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Southern Naval Command inaugurated the twin facilities, housed at the INS Garuda Naval Air Station.
Admiral Soni said that such facilities would help in reducing accidents and asked aircrews to focus on proper maintenance so that they can be utilized for many years.
FATS is designed for pilots and observers of Seaking helicopters for initial and periodic training, as well as evaluation of new procedures and tactics.
The simulator is a PC-based system with a glass cockpit, collimated visuals and an electro pneumatic system with six degrees of freedom and motion.
The simulator is a roll on/roll off system wherein other aircraft cockpits can also be substituted.
The simulator can factor-in all scenarios encountered by a navy pilot, including deck landings on different warships, various emergencies and night flying.
WSTF will provide realistic training to aircrew for escaping from a ditched aircraft under varied simulated conditions and crash scenarios.
The facility, the first in India, has s state-of-the-art Survival Training Simulation Theatre (STST) with several components.
The helicopter underwater escape trainer and the cockpit underwater escape trainer of the STST trains the crew in escaping from a submerged aircraft.
The Parachute Disengagement and Drag Trainer provides a realistic experience of entering the water while descending by a parachute into the sea.
The Rescue Hoist Trainer of the STST, as the name suggests, provides the aircrew with rescue procedures and techniques while being rescued.

Indian Navy commissions aviation simulators

 

[Neil]

^^^ loved the pic....!!!

 

[dealwithit]

[COLOR="#80000R"]Indian P-8I Goes To Work[/COLOR]

August 31, 2013: India received the first of 24 P-8I maritime reconnaissance aircraft in May, and that aircraft is now being flown around to various naval air bases that it expects to operate from. This includes the naval air base in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, where P-8Is would be able to watch the three main Chinese trade routes through the Indian Ocean.

In the last three years India has increased its P-8I order from 8 to 24 aircraft. Only 12 are actually on order, but the admirals expect the performance of the P-8I to convince the government to pay for another twelve. Two years ago the navy was allowed to buy another 4 P-8Is, largely in response to growing Chinese naval activity in the Indian Ocean. 5 years ago India ordered its initial 8 U.S. P-8s, for about $220 million each. The growing expense of maintaining their existing Russian Tu-142M reconnaissance aircraft, and the need for a more capable recon aircraft, led to that initial order. The first P-8I will arrive ahead of schedule.

What has made the Indian admirals so enthusiastic about an aircraft that first flew 4 years ago and is remarkably similar in terms of the equipment and techniques to the half century old P-3s it replaces? Arguably the most successful maritime patrol aircraft ever, the P-3 experience, and some of the same gear were merged with the equally admired Boeing 737 air transport to create the P-8, and that aircraft has exceeded expectations.

The Indian decision to switch to U.S. maritime recon aircraft was rather recent. 6 years ago India received another Russian built Tu-142 maritime reconnaissance aircraft. Beginning in 1988, when it received 3 of these aircraft, India has bought more until it had a fleet of 8 in service. The Tu-142, which was introduced in the 1970s, is the maritime patrol version of the Tu-95 heavy bomber. The Tu-95 aircraft entered service over half a century ago and is expected to remain in service, along with the Tu-142 variant, for another 3 decades. Over 500 Tu-95s were built and it is the largest and fastest turboprop aircraft in service. Russia still maintains a force of 60 Tu-95s but has dozens in storage, which can be restored to service as either a bomber or a Tu-142.

India required aircraft like these for patrolling the vast India ocean waters that surround the subcontinent. India wanted to upgrade the electronics on its Tu-142s but has been put off by the high price, and low performance, of what the Russians offered. There was also some question of whether the Russians could meet their schedule and cost assurances. Then the P-8 was noted and the U.S. was willing to provide a customized (to Indian needs) version at a price the Indians could justify. Other navies in the region that used the P-3 were enthusiastic about the P-8 as a worthy successor to the reliable and effective P-3. The U.S. and Indian navies will both receive the new American P-8 maritime reconnaissance aircraft at about the same time. The Indians P-8Is are slightly different than the P-8A the Americans will use.