Indian Ballistic Missile Defense System

[Guest]

For instance - "slow speed Prithvi". Apparently, DRDO is so stupid that it did not modify the Prithvi to be a representative target. Perhaps they call it Prithvi Target missile just for kicks.

Irrespective of what he is/has been-- he is right about Prithvi's speed- It cannot be called slow by any means but it is not sufficient-- you must keep in mind that Prithvi is an old SAM project during those time liquid propulsion was popular- today we can have better and faster thing with solid propellants- also it does have another big issue the refueling problem-- hence it cannot be actively deployed for a long stretch of time- and would take time in preparing for launch-

 

[p2prada]

Israel Aerospace Industries Unveils Advanced Battle Management System | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com



India, Israel to Build Anti-Missile System | Defense News | defensenews.com
@p2prada @Twinblade @sayareakd Sir

Two different Reports ..Seems like both of them messed up about Green Pine or Truly some other Projects for endo Atmosphere Killer

The Israeli's are helping us develop a network to integrate our air defence system.

 

[LalTopi]

Irrespective of what he is/has been-- he is right about Prithvi's speed- It cannot be called slow by any means but it is not sufficient-- you must keep in mind that Prithvi is an old SAM project during those time liquid propulsion was popular- today we can have better and faster thing with solid propellants- also it does have another big issue the refueling problem-- hence it cannot be actively deployed for a long stretch of time- and would take time in preparing for launch-

The refuelling problem is they key. PAD is ok to defend Delhi and Mumbai with a few dedicated stand alone missiles. but if you want to produce and deploy in numbers we need the solid propellant PDV.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Irrespective of what he is/has been-- he is right about Prithvi's speed- It cannot be called slow by any means but it is not sufficient-- you must keep in mind that Prithvi is an old SAM project during those time liquid propulsion was popular- today we can have better and faster thing with solid propellants- also it does have another big issue the refueling problem-- hence it cannot be actively deployed for a long stretch of time- and would take time in preparing for launch-

Refueling may not be such a big problem if maintenance is scheduled and done in a timely manner.

 

[northernarunachalpradesh]

Refueling may not be such a big problem if maintenance is scheduled and done in a timely manner.

We dont know wether pakistan will be pakistan or talibanistan in few years.so every thing should be ready in 1/10 of seconds.we dont have luxury of days for refuelling.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

We dont know wether pakistan will be pakistan or talibanistan in few years.so every thing should be ready in 1/10 of seconds.we dont have luxury of days for refuelling.

Liquid missiles canned stored for many years or hybrid fuels can be used. It isn't like you
Have to constantly refuel them they will be good for quiet a few years. USA and russia
Had icbm liquid fuelled stored for decades during the cold war.

 

[northernarunachalpradesh]

Liquid missiles canned stored for many years or hybrid fuels can be used. It isn't like you
Have to constantly refuel them they will be good for quiet a few years. USA and russia
Had icbm liquid fuelled stored for decades during the cold war.

we also have to take maintanence in to account.If solid can do the job why worry with liquid?

 

[LETHALFORCE]

we also have to take maintanence in to account.If solid can do the job why worry with liquid?

Solid propellants are easier to make, safer to store, lighter in weight and more reliable than liquid missiles reaction times are reduced to seconds. However, solid fuels are not without their complications. First, while it was possible with liquid fuels to adjust in flight the amount of thrust provided by the engine, rocket engines using solid fuel could not be throttled. Also, some early solid fuels had uneven ignition, producing surges or abrupt velocity changes that could disrupt or severely confound guidance systems for missiles like Bmd missiles where accuracy is a priority and no second chances
Liquid fuelled missiles maybe more reliable? But Bmd will probably. Use a combination?

 

[cobra commando]

India's Kinetic Kill Interceptor Test
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wK4dppigDO8

 

[Kyubi]

India's Kinetic Kill Interceptor Test
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wK4dppigDO8

Spectacular !!!!!!!!!!! too good hai bhai,tooooooooo good

 

[Archer]

Irrespective of what he is/has been-- he is right about Prithvi's speed- It cannot be called slow by any means but it is not sufficient-- you must keep in mind that Prithvi is an old SAM project during those time liquid propulsion was popular- today we can have better and faster thing with solid propellants- also it does have another big issue the refueling problem-- hence it cannot be actively deployed for a long stretch of time- and would take time in preparing for launch-

FFS, DRDO developed a specific Prithvi derivative missile for the PAD /AAD mission called the target missile which was designed specifically to mimic representative missiles. In short, neither was it a stock Prithvi, nor did you do your research and your entire stuff about refuelling etc is equally moot. That idiot Sawheny peddled the line that the DRDO was using a Prithvi and hence the tests were wrong, and he didn't even know that a specific missile was developed for the purpose.

Your claim that Prithvi cant be deployed because of the refuelling stuff is incorrect. Its cumbersome but deployable. And because its liquid fuelled can go places/be deployed on trucks fast since the solid propellant cracking/deterioration issue with hard handling/vibrations does not arise. This was a key reason behind its choice for the Prithvi, considering it was our first road mobile missile.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

prithvi based target missile is good in terms of speed and manuverability and is the ideal choice to mimic 2000km class ballistic target.but for phase 2 of our bmd programme i think we need a agni1/k-15 based missile to mimic 5000km targe-it will have superior speed and manuverability than prihvi based current target missile.

 

[Guest]

FFS, DRDO developed a specific Prithvi derivative missile for the PAD /AAD mission called the target missile which was designed specifically to mimic representative missiles. In short, neither was it a stock Prithvi, nor did you do your research and your entire stuff about refuelling etc is equally moot. That idiot Sawheny peddled the line that the DRDO was using a Prithvi and hence the tests were wrong, and he didn't even know that a specific missile was developed for the purpose.

It still has the same propulsion system- plus a TVC nozzle-

Prithvi refueling truck-

Your claim that Prithvi cant be deployed because of the refuelling stuff is incorrect. Its cumbersome but deployable. And because its liquid fuelled can go places/be deployed on trucks fast since the solid propellant cracking/deterioration issue with hard handling/vibrations does not arise. This was a key reason behind its choice for the Prithvi, considering it was our first road mobile missile.

For now rest of the world has not reached your intellectual levels hence they still use-- say Air to Air missiles having solid fuel- As vibrations are extremely high on an aircraft's wing pylon-

 

[sayareakd]

The refuelling problem is they key. PAD is ok to defend Delhi and Mumbai with a few dedicated stand alone missiles. but if you want to produce and deploy in numbers we need the solid propellant PDV.

no problem is Prithvi big fins, you can have only one per TEL, we need 4 missile per TEL for PDV.

 

[Guest]

no problem is Prithvi big fins, you can have only one per TEL, we need 4 missile per TEL for PDV.

If that is the only problem then I guess we can have underground missile silos around big cities-

 

[sayareakd]

If that is the only problem then I guess we can have underground missile silos around big cities-

that is why we are going in for PDV.

 

[Yusuf]

The interceptor should be all solid propellant. How can they deploy an interceptor with liquid stage as reaction time is a matter of couple of minutes?

 

[sayareakd]

The interceptor should be all solid propellant. How can they deploy an interceptor with liquid stage as reaction time is a matter of couple of minutes?

Yusuf upper stage of PAD has small motor booster which guides the kill vehicle it require liquid motor for control bust of motor.

so liquid motor is needed. Even in A3 it has liquid motor in RV.

 

[LalTopi]

Agni-5 to be ready for induction in armed forces by next year | The Indian Express

On the Ballistic Missile Defence system, he said the first test of the frozen configuration will be tested within a month's time.
To a query on India's anti-satellite capability, the DRDO chief said the kill vehicle (missile) of the BMD along with the launcher of the Agni missile can be used for demonstrating this capability but so far, the country does not want to showcase it as it is against having debris and other unwanted materials in space.

Feb turning to March and still no official announcement of a PDV test?

 

[Yusuf]

Yusuf upper stage of PAD has small motor booster which guides the kill vehicle it require liquid motor for control bust of motor.

so liquid motor is needed. Even in A3 it has liquid motor in RV.

There is a diff between A3 a ballistic missile and an air defense system. I understand what you say. Say a radar picks up a launch from Pak right now. It will be over delhi in 5 mins. When will you fuel the interceptor?