Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

[Killbot]

A grand AK 203 pic:

https://images.guns.com/wordpress/2019/03/AK-203.png

Russian heartburn:

Russian gun maker Kalashnikov unhappy with India's choice to buy American SigSauer guns

In December last year, the Indian Army has started inducting its newly acquired American SiG Sauer assault rifles in operations. In addition, the Indian Army had also started getting supplies of ammunition for its sniper rifles as more than 21 lakh rounds have been ordered from vendors.

m.economictimes.com

Ak19 versus Ak 203:

While Indian Army Eyes AK-203, Kalashnikov Group Unveils Its Latest AK-19 Rifles

Russian defense manufacturer Kalashnikov Group has unveiled its latest rifle under the AK series – the AK-19. The first version of the gun, the AK-47, was used by the Red Army of the Soviet Union from 1949. Why Has India Opted For Indigenous LCH Helicopters Over AH-64E Apache To Fight China? The...

eurasiantimes.com

All AKs are the same thing. New ones come with modern furniture.

 

[Rambo101]

Wikipedia say AK 19 is being build Keeping a foreign customer in mind. Who is this customer ?

. According to a representative of Kalashnikov Group, Vladimir Onokoy, this version of the rifle was designed due to a big number of requests from customers

.Revealed during the ARMY-2020 exhibition, the AK-19 is a variant of the AK-12 chambered in 5.56×45mm NATO cartridge that is currently under development upon the request of potential international clients

 

[Rambo101]

Look like it's none other than india.

 

[Killbot]

Look like it's none other than india.

No it isn't. India doesn't need a 5.56 AK with 16" barrel.

 

[Johny_Baba]

Does AK 19 come in 7.62 ?

There is a 7.62x39mm version of AK-12 named AK-15 so yes completely possible

 

[Johny_Baba]

No sir, it is an AKM with a 90 degree gas block and a furniture upgrade in 5.56.

>AKM with 90 deg gas block

Check yourself

АК-12 обновленный: ТТХ || Калашников Медиа

Обновленный АК-12 был представлен в рамках Международного военно-технического форума «Армия-2020».

en.kalashnikov.media

«Калашников» представил обновленный АК-12 || Калашников Медиа

Конструктивные изменения улучшат эргономику оружия

en.kalashnikov.media

«Калашников» создал новый автомат АК-19 в калибре НАТО || Калашников Медиа

Новый автомат предназначен для поставок на экспорт

en.kalashnikov.media

As i said,just upgraded AK-12 in 5.56x45mm NATO, with new iron sights, buttstock, pistol grip that's also housed magazine lock in it.

 

[Killbot]

>AKM with 90 deg gas block

Check yourself

АК-12 обновленный: ТТХ || Калашников Медиа

Обновленный АК-12 был представлен в рамках Международного военно-технического форума «Армия-2020».

en.kalashnikov.media

«Калашников» представил обновленный АК-12 || Калашников Медиа

Конструктивные изменения улучшат эргономику оружия

en.kalashnikov.media

«Калашников» создал новый автомат АК-19 в калибре НАТО || Калашников Медиа

Новый автомат предназначен для поставок на экспорт

en.kalashnikov.media

As i said,just upgraded AK-12 in 5.56x45mm NATO, with new iron sights, buttstock, pistol grip that's also housed magazine lock in it.

So 5.56 AKM with new furniture.

 

[India Super Power]

A grand AK 203 pic:

https://images.guns.com/wordpress/2019/03/AK-203.png

Russian heartburn:

Russian gun maker Kalashnikov unhappy with India's choice to buy American SigSauer guns

In December last year, the Indian Army has started inducting its newly acquired American SiG Sauer assault rifles in operations. In addition, the Indian Army had also started getting supplies of ammunition for its sniper rifles as more than 21 lakh rounds have been ordered from vendors.

m.economictimes.com

Ak19 versus Ak 203:

While Indian Army Eyes AK-203, Kalashnikov Group Unveils Its Latest AK-19 Rifles

Russian defense manufacturer Kalashnikov Group has unveiled its latest rifle under the AK series – the AK-19. The first version of the gun, the AK-47, was used by the Red Army of the Soviet Union from 1949. Why Has India Opted For Indigenous LCH Helicopters Over AH-64E Apache To Fight China? The...

eurasiantimes.com

Which we are getting won't even Jane retractable and foldable buttstock but instead some wooden type of buttstock

 

[Johny_Baba]

Which we are getting won't even Jane retractable and foldable buttstock but instead some wooden type of buttstock

not wooden one,but fixed length polymer one from AK-103

 

[India Super Power]

not wooden one,but fixed length polymer one from AK-103

Yeah right

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

People shitting on kalashnikov should remember,for infantry assault and COIN AK still can't be matched by sig which is for long range firefights mainly.Also expect sig to be much more of a reliability headache.

 

[Killbot]

People shitting on kalashnikov should remember,for infantry assault and COIN AK still can't be matched by sig which is for long range firefights mainly.Also expect sig to be much more of a reliability headache.

Absolutely not a 'headache'. It'll do its job. Bet the house that the army won't have any complaints with the Sigs whatsoever.

A Galil would have been way better than the AK for infantry.

 

[Lancer]

People shitting on kalashnikov should remember,for infantry assault and COIN AK still can't be matched by sig which is for long range firefights mainly.Also expect sig to be much more of a reliability headache.

Yup, AK's (albeit modern ones) are best for regular foot soldiers.

 

[ManhattanProject]

Why tf is NSG getting so much? I mean what is their use now?
Now every state has its separate police departments with their own CICT SWAT forces that will tackle terror threats plus funny thing is that all these police tactical units are trained by NSG itself and have similar equipments also, why wasting money on NSG when it is of no use now or else deploy them for active CICT ops in Kashmir.

what an uneducated and dumb statement.

 

[FalconSlayers]

what an uneducated and dumb statement.

Counter it with facts, every state has NSG trained personnel in Police plus Terrorism is now focussed by Pakistan into insurgencies and fidayeen attacks and less into bomb blasts and 26/11 type attacks. Plus NSG will always be the last one reaching the encounter site. Either put them in active combat or else it is useless.

 

[ALBY]

Absolutely not a 'headache'. It'll do its job. Bet the house that the army won't have any complaints with the Sigs whatsoever.

A Galil would have been way better than the AK for infantry.

Compare the prices.Galil is too costly also 50% or more, and tge advantages its going to bring dont justify the cost.

 

[Killbot]

Compare the prices.Galil is too costly also 50% or more, and tge advantages its going to bring dont justify the cost.

They do.
You get a much more ergonomic, accurate platform. And it will be right about as much as what OFB is quoting for the AK 103, and that is if they are bought from Punj Lloyd.

It may have been as you said if
a.) OFB didn't inflate the price so much in the name of ToT. And
b.) If the army was getting the actual AK 203.

 

[samsaptaka]

I wish we just bite the bullet and simply go all in for SiGs for all the soldiers instead of this horrible mix of AKs for some, SiGs for some, InSAS for some etc.. horrible cluster fuck !

 

[Killbot]

I wish we just bite the bullet and simply go all in for SiGs for all the soldiers instead of this horrible mix of AKs for some, SiGs for some, InSAS for some etc.. horrible cluster fuck !

Sig are specifically for LoC, where troops are in bunkers and have ammo stocked up. And ammo is really heavy. 7.62 NATO isn't good for infantry. Thats why we replaced FAL in the first place. It wouldn't work anywhere else. We should've just gone for 5.56mm for all other troops. Rifles of different barrel lengths.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Sig are specifically for LoC, where troops are in bunkers and have ammo stocked up. And ammo is really heavy. 7.62 NATO isn't good for infantry. Thats why we replaced FAL in the first place. It wouldn't work anywhere else. We should've just gone for 5.56mm for all other troops. Rifles of different barrel lengths.

Caracal CAR-816 16” for Assault rifle and CAR-816 14.5” for carbine and CAR-817 for battle rifle.