Indian Army: News and Discussion

[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

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[JBH22]

My god the meme potential a single picture can have.

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I saw on OFB website it manufacture the NSV 12.7mm heavy machine gun. Now it is a good gun with decent performance in the soviet Afghanistan war. But it seems the weapon did not trinkle down to company size formation. I think Indian army slapped it only on the Russian tanks.
Now we want to reinvent the wheel it seems, numerous photos of Indian army looking at old age M2 HMG.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

I saw on OFB website it manufacture the NSV 12.7mm heavy machine gun. Now it is a good gun with decent performance in the soviet Afghanistan war. But it seems the weapon did not trinkle down to company size formation. I think Indian army slapped it only on the Russian tanks.
Now we want to reinvent the wheel it seems, numerous photos of Indian army looking at old age M2 HMG.

IA do use some NSVT's along the LAC.

Recently BEL has introduced a RCWS version of this gun. Though mainly intended for armoured vehicles, but it can be installed in LOC bunkers.

 

[LaIllahaSigmar]

Did you know?

Subhas Chandra Bose built a memorial for INA in Singapore in july 1945.

While watching the manufactured controversy on the national war memorial and the flame merging isssue, maj-general Bakshi mentioned this.

After recapture of Singapore, Mountbatten ordered the demolition of the memorial.

50 years later, it was the National Heritage Board of Singapore that commemorated the memorial by installing a plaque.

Former Indian National Army Monument - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Absolutely pathetic.

And why installing of Netaji statue at India gate is so significant.

 

[LaIllahaSigmar]

Did you know?

Subhas Chandra Bose built a memorial for INA in Singapore in july 1945.

While watching the manufactured controversy on the national war memorial and the flame merging isssue, maj-general Bakshi mentioned this.

After recapture of Singapore, Mountbatten ordered the demolition of the memorial.

50 years later, it was the National Heritage Board of Singapore that commemorated the memorial by installing a plaque.

Former Indian National Army Monument - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Absolutely pathetic.

And why installing of Netaji statue at India gate is so significant.

Bose laying the foundation stone of INA memorial.

After British demolition:

Current plaque installed by National Heritage Board in 1995.

While paying homage to the martyrs of the INA, he said, “The future generations of Indians who will be born, not as slaves but as free men, because of your colossal sacrifice, will bless your names and proudly proclaim to the world that you, their forbears, fought and suffered reverses in the battle of Manipur, Assam and Burma. But through temporary failure you paved the way to ultimate success and glory.”

{ Indian National Army : INA War Memorial in Singapore }

 

[arkos]

Recently BEL has introduced a RCWS version of this gun. Though mainly intended for armoured vehicles, but it can be installed in LOC bunkers.

BEL one is the from Israel and comes with NSV. Its also on new generation naval ships like Vishakapatnam class.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

BEL one is the from Israel and comes with NSV. Its also on new generation naval ships like Vishakapatnam class.

It seems both BEL and OFB has got TOT of RCWS from El-bit systems (Israel).

While BEL is using NSVT in it, OFB is using Browning H-2 for its RCWS.

 

[rkhanna]

Can some one educate me on the pipeline of Tactics being sent back to infantry units based on Experience of their RR units.

Other than active live fire experience and maybe CQB there is little RR skills and SOP that translate to Infantry. RR operates with overwhelming numbers and fire superiority at Ll times.

Infact the initial struggles of Kargil was because we had to orient troops in theater from COIN to conventional war - this included kir, training etc.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

BEL one is the from Israel and comes with NSV. Its also on new generation naval ships like Vishakapatnam class.

It seems both BEL and OFB has got TOT of RCWS from El-bit systems (Israel).

While BEL is using NSVT in it, OFB is using Browning H-2 for its RCWS.

The RCWS on Vizag Class is the OFB-ELBIT RCWS.

The BEL one is by DRDO and a foreign consultant and gun supplied by OFB, it’s uses an indigenous EOFCS by Tonbo Imaging called ELPEOS in the production variants. According to Kunal Biswas on Twitterif I’m not wrong he believed the Foreign Consultant was a South Korean firm.

Elpeos - Tonbo Imaging

ELPEOS is a multi sensor electro-optical payload designed for easy integration in fixed and stabilised remote controlled weapon stations and long range surveillance and reconnaissance. It features a high resolution cooled MWIR imager, a color CCD camera, and a Laser Range Finder and an...

tonboimaging.com

 

[SGOperative]

Other than active live fire experience and maybe CQB there is little RR skills and SOP that translate to Infantry. RR operates with overwhelming numbers and fire superiority at Ll times.

Infact the initial struggles of Kargil was because we had to orient troops in theater from COIN to conventional war - this included kir, training etc.

I was talking about the Shooting Stance, Weapon Handling etc since those seem much more refined in RR when compared to other Soldiers.

 

[Angel of War]

I saw on OFB website it manufacture the NSV 12.7mm heavy machine gun. Now it is a good gun with decent performance in the soviet Afghanistan war. But it seems the weapon did not trinkle down to company size formation. I think Indian army slapped it only on the Russian tanks.
Now we want to reinvent the wheel it seems, numerous photos of Indian army looking at old age M2 HMG.

NSVs are deoyed on LoC along with other HMGs like M2 . They are sector level weapons held by forward brigades which are issued to battalions on the frontline . In indian Army infantry battalions are not nominated to hold HMGs . This is compensated for by Automatic Grenade Launchers .

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

Not only NSV and Browning H-2, IA has deployed 14.5 mm KPVT and 23 mm ZU-23s also in bunkers along LOC.

Even old Vijayanta and T-55 tanks are also used as pillboxes with their 105 mm guns firish HESH rounds in bunker busting roles.

 

[rkhanna]

I was talking about the Shooting Stance, Weapon Handling etc since those seem much more refined in RR when compared to other Soldiers.

IMO everything is the same. The soldiers with RR just refine it with more real world practice. Most infantry units eventually rotate through RR.

The concept of institutionalisation of key learnings are slow

 

[bhramos]

 

[WolfPack86]

Bengaluru’s SSS Defence beats Israeli firm, will be first from India to upgrade Army’s AK-47s
New Delhi: Indian small arms firm SSS Defence has defeated Israeli firm Fab Defense, also known as Zahal, to bag a contract to upgrade a limited number of Kalashnikov rifles with a unit of the Indian Special Forces, ThePrint has learnt.

Sources in the defence and security establishment told ThePrint that the Bengaluru-based SSS emerged as the lowest bidder for the tender for upgrading 24 AK-47 rifles in service with a particular unit.

This is the first time when an Indian company, with its own indigenous design and product, will upgrade a rifle for the Indian Army,” a source said.

Till now, Fab Defense had a monopoly in the Indian market over the upgrade of AK-47s in service with the Army. Different units of the Army have been upgrading their Kalashnikovs to suit modern warfare and Fab Defense has managed to upgrade a few thousand rifles over the last decade.

Sources also pointed out that until now, all the materials needed for upgrades were imported, and the SSS contract could actually open up room for more such deals with a focus on indigenous products.

Bengaluru’s SSS Defence beats Israeli firm, will be first from India to upgrade Army’s AK-47s

Before SSS Defence won this tender, Israel’s Fab Defense had a monopoly on the market, having upgraded a few thousand Army rifles in the past 10 years.

theprint.in

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

When the present VCOAS becomes COAS in a few months, will all three chiefs be from the same NDA course?

 

[Jimih]

When the present VCOAS becomes COAS in a few months, will all three chiefs be from the same NDA course?

It was in recent past

 

[WolfPack86]

ARMY SEEKS 80,000 BALLISTIC HELMETS TO PROTECT TROOPS AGAINST HIGH VELOCITY BULLETS
The Army has specified that the helmets must provide protection from 7.62x39 mm mild steel core bullets at 10 meters as well as from high-speed blast fragments (Pic credit: Design released by the Army).

The Army is seeking new ballistic helmets that offer a greater level of protection to troops against high velocity bullets than the earlier variant of ballistic helmets that were introduced about three years ago to replace the vintage metal and fibreglass headgear

“Ballistic helmets with protection against 9mm bullets have been inducted in service in lieu of fiberglass helmets. With the threat of 7.62 x 39mm bullets to the troops, there is a need to induct ballistic helmets with higher protection parameters,” a request for proposal (RFP) issued by Army Headquarters this week states. “Existing threat along the Line of Control and Line of Actual Control and counter terrorist environment necessitates minimum protection against high-speed rifle bullets and blast fragments,” the RFP adds.

The army has projected a requirement for 80,000 helmets, which includes 3,600 helmets for troops deployed on anti-terrorist operations with the Rashtriya Rifles in Jammu and Kashmir. The indigenous content should be at least 50 per cent.

The Army has specified that the helmets must provide protection from 7.62x39 mm mild steel core bullets at 10 meters as well as from high-speed blast fragments. These should also incorporate tactical rails for attachment of additional equipment such as night vision devices, face visor, torch and in-service radio communication sets.

In June 2020, the Army had issued a request for information to the industry for the procurement of one lakh ballistic helmets that were capable of providing protection against 7.62 mm bullets. Ballistic helmets are made of various composite materials and are lighter and stronger than traditional metallic headgear.

Army officers said that a 7.62 mm rifle bullet is much more lethal than a 9 mm bullet fired from a pistol or sub-machinegun, besides having a longer range. The muzzle velocity of the 7.62 mm AK-47 assault rifle is 2,350 feet per second as compared to 1,312 feet per second of the MP-5, a widely used sub-machinegun.

After phasing out the 7.62 mm Ishpore self loading rifles in the late 1990s, the Army used the INSAS 5.56 mm rifles and light machinegun, then in line with the global trend of using a smaller calibre for assault rifles. There is now a doctrinal shift to revert back to 7.62 mm calibre.

The Army’s recent inductions of the SIG Sauer 716 and AK-203 assault rifles to replace the INSAS have 7.62 mm calibre. Based upon its experiences in counter terrorist operations and asymmetric warfare, the Army is opting for higher calibre personal weapons with the objective of “shoot to kill” rather than the post world war western philosophy of “shoot to incapacitate” by using lighter bullets as wounded soldiers created additional administrative and logistical problems for the enemy. Army officers said that weapons with a higher kill probability are preferred in anti-terrorist operations, especially where a lone terrorist or a small group may be acting on their own.

Army Seeks 80,000 Ballistic Helmets To Protect Troops Against High Velocity Bullets

Ballistic helmets are made of various composite materials and are lighter and stronger The Army has specified that the helmets must provide ...

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[Nationalist Manasvi Papa]

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