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Clothing, ration for troops in Siachen delayed: CAG pulls up Indian Army
The troops were not issued ‘multi-purpose boots’ from November 2015 to September 2016 and had to resort to recycling of available boots.
Published: 04th February 2020 01:48 AM | Last Updated: 04th February 2020 11:12 AM | A+A A-
Indian soldiers patrol the Siachen Glacier.(Photo| PTI)
By Express News Service
NEW DELHI: Soldiers posted on the world’s highest battlefield have been forced to go without adequate ration and proper high-altitude clothing, said the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) in a report tabled in Parliament on Monday.
Pulling up the Army for delays in procurement of snow goggles, multipurpose boots and other high-altitude clothing and equipment (HACE) for the troops posted in areas such as Ladakh and Siachen, the CAG report said the soldiers were forced to use old and recycled versions.
Inadequate supply of special ration for the troops affected their calorie intake by as much as 82 per cent, it further said.
The audit findings of provisioning and procurement of from 2015-16 to 2017-18 stated, “There were delays in procurement of high altitude clothing and equipment items up to four years leading to acute shortage…There was a critical shortage in snow goggles ranging from 62 per cent to 98 per cent.”
The troops were not issued ‘multi-purpose boots’ from November 2015 to September 2016 and had to resort to the recycling of available boots.
Further, old versions of items such as face mask, jacket and sleeping bags were procured which deprived the troops from the benefits of using improved products, the CAG stated.
In the case of specialised ration, there was a major compromise in calorie intake, the auditor said.
The CAG has also questioned the government for the “inordinate delay” in the establishment of the Indian National Defence University, which was recommended by the Kargil review committee in 1999.
It has pulled up the defence ministry for losses to the tune of Rs 25.48 crore due to delayed lease renewals for defence land.
Short supply of clothing, equipment
The troops were not issued ‘multi-purpose boots’ from November 2015 to September 2016 and had to resort to recycling of available boots.
Published: 04th February 2020 01:48 AM | Last Updated: 04th February 2020 11:12 AM | A+A A-
Indian soldiers patrol the Siachen Glacier.(Photo| PTI)
By Express News Service
NEW DELHI: Soldiers posted on the world’s highest battlefield have been forced to go without adequate ration and proper high-altitude clothing, said the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) in a report tabled in Parliament on Monday.
Pulling up the Army for delays in procurement of snow goggles, multipurpose boots and other high-altitude clothing and equipment (HACE) for the troops posted in areas such as Ladakh and Siachen, the CAG report said the soldiers were forced to use old and recycled versions.
Inadequate supply of special ration for the troops affected their calorie intake by as much as 82 per cent, it further said.
The audit findings of provisioning and procurement of from 2015-16 to 2017-18 stated, “There were delays in procurement of high altitude clothing and equipment items up to four years leading to acute shortage…There was a critical shortage in snow goggles ranging from 62 per cent to 98 per cent.”
The troops were not issued ‘multi-purpose boots’ from November 2015 to September 2016 and had to resort to the recycling of available boots.
Further, old versions of items such as face mask, jacket and sleeping bags were procured which deprived the troops from the benefits of using improved products, the CAG stated.
In the case of specialised ration, there was a major compromise in calorie intake, the auditor said.
The CAG has also questioned the government for the “inordinate delay” in the establishment of the Indian National Defence University, which was recommended by the Kargil review committee in 1999.
It has pulled up the defence ministry for losses to the tune of Rs 25.48 crore due to delayed lease renewals for defence land.
Short supply of clothing, equipment
- Deficiency of 24 to 100 per cent and 41 to 100 per cent in Extreme Cold Clothing and Equipment (SCCE) at two depots, where the Northern Command’s Army Headquarters Reserve of such items is stocked.
- Deficiency ranging from 15 to 98 per cent in 18 items of the Special Clothing and Mountaineering Equipment (SCME), such as head cap, socks, sleeping bag and face mask, for very high altitude areas such as Siachen.
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2015 report, there has been lots of tenders for these gear since then.Clothing, ration for troops in Siachen delayed: CAG pulls up Indian Army
The troops were not issued ‘multi-purpose boots’ from November 2015 to September 2016 and had to resort to recycling of available boots.
Published: 04th February 2020 01:48 AM | Last Updated: 04th February 2020 11:12 AM | A+A A-
Indian soldiers patrol the Siachen Glacier.(Photo| PTI)
By Express News Service
NEW DELHI: Soldiers posted on the world’s highest battlefield have been forced to go without adequate ration and proper high-altitude clothing, said the Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) in a report tabled in Parliament on Monday.
Pulling up the Army for delays in procurement of snow goggles, multipurpose boots and other high-altitude clothing and equipment (HACE) for the troops posted in areas such as Ladakh and Siachen, the CAG report said the soldiers were forced to use old and recycled versions.
Inadequate supply of special ration for the troops affected their calorie intake by as much as 82 per cent, it further said.
The audit findings of provisioning and procurement of from 2015-16 to 2017-18 stated, “There were delays in procurement of high altitude clothing and equipment items up to four years leading to acute shortage…There was a critical shortage in snow goggles ranging from 62 per cent to 98 per cent.”
The troops were not issued ‘multi-purpose boots’ from November 2015 to September 2016 and had to resort to the recycling of available boots.
Further, old versions of items such as face mask, jacket and sleeping bags were procured which deprived the troops from the benefits of using improved products, the CAG stated.
In the case of specialised ration, there was a major compromise in calorie intake, the auditor said.
The CAG has also questioned the government for the “inordinate delay” in the establishment of the Indian National Defence University, which was recommended by the Kargil review committee in 1999.
It has pulled up the defence ministry for losses to the tune of Rs 25.48 crore due to delayed lease renewals for defence land.
Short supply of clothing, equipment
- Deficiency of 24 to 100 per cent and 41 to 100 per cent in Extreme Cold Clothing and Equipment (SCCE) at two depots, where the Northern Command’s Army Headquarters Reserve of such items is stocked.
- Deficiency ranging from 15 to 98 per cent in 18 items of the Special Clothing and Mountaineering Equipment (SCME), such as head cap, socks, sleeping bag and face mask, for very high altitude areas such as Siachen.
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India To Get Military Commands In 3 Years, Biggest Restructuring Ever
Each Theatre Command would have an integral Air Force element and depending on the nature of the requirement, additional aircraft could be deployed.
All India Written by Vishnu Som
Updated : February 04, 2020 08:32 pm IST
In three years from now, India will begin operationalising Military Commands which integrate the operations of the Army, Air Force and Navy, in the biggest restructuring in India's military history.
In a select briefing, his first since he took over as India's first Chief of Defence Staff, General Bipin Rawat said it was his goal to "develop the services as an armed force," integrating capabilities, logistics and manpower within the new Military Commands. The goal is to bring down expenses, rationalise manpower and ensure that the armed forces fight as a cohesive unit.
While the number of commands has not been finalised, the Chief of Defence Staff is looking at the creation of proposals which would result in the creation of a Western Theatre Command, and at least one Northern Theatre Command. An Eastern Theatre Command would likely cover the border areas along the China frontier. The exact number of these Theatre Commands has still not been decided.
In addition to Commands which cover the land frontier against Pakistan and China, India would also have a Peninsula Command , an Air Defence Command and Space Command and a multi-service Logistics Command and Training Command.
Each Theatre Command would have an integral Air Force element and depending on the nature of the requirement, additional aircraft could be deployed.
Significant cost cutting in each Command would be achieved through common stores management, shared bases, maintenance stocks and through the utilisation of similar weapons. "In co-located stations, there is tremendous scope for the management of resources," General Rawat said.
Preliminary discussions have been held between the Chief of Defence Staff and the three service chiefs with the CDS making it clear that it was his intention to begin the process of setting up the Commands within a finite period of time.
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High-value military acquisitions, such as a proposed third aircraft carrier for Navy, "depends on how the economy progresses," said General Rawat as this costly acquisition would have "an impact on the other services." The Navy has fought for years for the government to sanction a third made-in-India carrier which would supplement INS Vikramaditya which is in service and INS Vikrant which enters trials soon before being inducted.
Similarly, for the Indian Air Force, the Chief of Defence Staff felt it is important to stagger the purchases of expensive fighter aircraft to ensure higher serviceability. India is looking closely at a deal to acquire 114 fighter aircraft for which a global tender is now under way. "Look at the maintenance cycle," said General Rawat explaining that several newly acquired aircraft would need to be simultaneously serviced if they were acquired within a short period of time. This would mean that many of these assets would be simultaneously out of commission for a period of time. Instead, a system of staggered acquisitions for the Air Force would mean that at least some key operational platforms such as fighters, helicopters and drones would be available while others were being serviced.
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Another cost cutting measure would be the indigenous manufacture of ammunition to a very high standard. "If ammunition has a shelf life of ten years, must you stock ammunition for twenty years?" asked the General, pointing out that it was "important to develop surge capacity" in quickly manufacturing ammunition if there was a crisis.
One of the most far reaching proposals, directly linked to the need to cut down on the whopping Rs 1.33 lakh crore pension budget of the Indian Armed forces would be to enable non-officer ranks to be employed till the age of 58. "One third of the Army, I believe, can work till the age of 58," explained General Rawat. At the moment, soldiers in the armed forces are retired between the ages of 37 and 38 as opposed to officers who usually retire at 58. "The pension budget is huge. Is this sustainable?" said the Chief of Defence Staff.
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Summing up his immediate priorities, the Chief of Defence Staff said he would try to "minimise wastages", "prevent overstocking" supplies and if possible begin a possibility of "nil stocking" of supplies such as generators and auto components which are immediately available from commercial vendors. "Surplus and deficiencies need to be better managed. Jointmanship and optimisation is the need of the hour," he said.
Each Theatre Command would have an integral Air Force element and depending on the nature of the requirement, additional aircraft could be deployed.
All India Written by Vishnu Som
Updated : February 04, 2020 08:32 pm IST
- Bipin Rawat said his goal was "to develop the services as an armed force"
- The goal is to bring down expenses and rationalise manpower
- India would also have Peninsula and Space Commands, among others
In three years from now, India will begin operationalising Military Commands which integrate the operations of the Army, Air Force and Navy, in the biggest restructuring in India's military history.
In a select briefing, his first since he took over as India's first Chief of Defence Staff, General Bipin Rawat said it was his goal to "develop the services as an armed force," integrating capabilities, logistics and manpower within the new Military Commands. The goal is to bring down expenses, rationalise manpower and ensure that the armed forces fight as a cohesive unit.
While the number of commands has not been finalised, the Chief of Defence Staff is looking at the creation of proposals which would result in the creation of a Western Theatre Command, and at least one Northern Theatre Command. An Eastern Theatre Command would likely cover the border areas along the China frontier. The exact number of these Theatre Commands has still not been decided.
In addition to Commands which cover the land frontier against Pakistan and China, India would also have a Peninsula Command , an Air Defence Command and Space Command and a multi-service Logistics Command and Training Command.
Each Theatre Command would have an integral Air Force element and depending on the nature of the requirement, additional aircraft could be deployed.
Significant cost cutting in each Command would be achieved through common stores management, shared bases, maintenance stocks and through the utilisation of similar weapons. "In co-located stations, there is tremendous scope for the management of resources," General Rawat said.
Preliminary discussions have been held between the Chief of Defence Staff and the three service chiefs with the CDS making it clear that it was his intention to begin the process of setting up the Commands within a finite period of time.
Advertisement
High-value military acquisitions, such as a proposed third aircraft carrier for Navy, "depends on how the economy progresses," said General Rawat as this costly acquisition would have "an impact on the other services." The Navy has fought for years for the government to sanction a third made-in-India carrier which would supplement INS Vikramaditya which is in service and INS Vikrant which enters trials soon before being inducted.
Similarly, for the Indian Air Force, the Chief of Defence Staff felt it is important to stagger the purchases of expensive fighter aircraft to ensure higher serviceability. India is looking closely at a deal to acquire 114 fighter aircraft for which a global tender is now under way. "Look at the maintenance cycle," said General Rawat explaining that several newly acquired aircraft would need to be simultaneously serviced if they were acquired within a short period of time. This would mean that many of these assets would be simultaneously out of commission for a period of time. Instead, a system of staggered acquisitions for the Air Force would mean that at least some key operational platforms such as fighters, helicopters and drones would be available while others were being serviced.
Advertisement
Another cost cutting measure would be the indigenous manufacture of ammunition to a very high standard. "If ammunition has a shelf life of ten years, must you stock ammunition for twenty years?" asked the General, pointing out that it was "important to develop surge capacity" in quickly manufacturing ammunition if there was a crisis.
One of the most far reaching proposals, directly linked to the need to cut down on the whopping Rs 1.33 lakh crore pension budget of the Indian Armed forces would be to enable non-officer ranks to be employed till the age of 58. "One third of the Army, I believe, can work till the age of 58," explained General Rawat. At the moment, soldiers in the armed forces are retired between the ages of 37 and 38 as opposed to officers who usually retire at 58. "The pension budget is huge. Is this sustainable?" said the Chief of Defence Staff.
Advertisement
Summing up his immediate priorities, the Chief of Defence Staff said he would try to "minimise wastages", "prevent overstocking" supplies and if possible begin a possibility of "nil stocking" of supplies such as generators and auto components which are immediately available from commercial vendors. "Surplus and deficiencies need to be better managed. Jointmanship and optimisation is the need of the hour," he said.
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Indian Army Major Develops World's 1st Bulletproof Helmet Against AK-47 Bullets
The officer had got into the development of bulletproof jackets after he had received gunshots on his vintage bulletproof jacket.
All India ANI
Updated : February 07, 2020 08:36 pm IST
Major Anoop Mishra is part of the Army's College of Military EngineeringLucknow:
An Indian Army Major who had developed a bulletproof jacket for protection against sniper bullets, has now developed a helmet which is claimed to be first such in the world that can stop an AK-47 bullet round from a distance of 10 meters.
"The ballistic helmet has been developed under project Abhedya by Major Anoop Mishra who has also developed a full-body protection bulletproof jacket which can withstand even sniper rifles," Army officials told news agency ANI.
The officer is part of the Indian Army's College of Military Engineering and had got into the development of bulletproof jackets after he had received gunshots on his vintage bulletproof jacket.
Along with this, Indian Army's College of Military Engineering jointly with a private firm has developed India's first and world's cheapest gunshot locator. It can locate the exact location of the bullet from distance of 400 meters which will help to locate and neutralise terrorists faster.
"During 2016-17, 50,000 bulletproof jackets had been procured for Indian Army through Revenue route. The Contract for procurement of 1,86,138 BPJs through Capital route, under Buy (Indian) category, has been concluded in April 2018. Further, a contract for procurement of 1,58,279 Ballistic Helmet through Capital route had been concluded in December 2016," the then Minister of State for Defence, Subhash Bhamre had informed Lok Sabha in a written reply in July 2018.
The College of Military Engineering (CME) at Pune, a premier tactical & Technical training institution is the alma mater of the Corps of Engineers.
CME is responsible for training of personnel of the Corps of Engineers besides imparting instructions in Combat Engineering, CBRN Protection, Works Services and GIS matters to the personnel of All Arms & Services.
The officer had got into the development of bulletproof jackets after he had received gunshots on his vintage bulletproof jacket.
All India ANI
Updated : February 07, 2020 08:36 pm IST
Major Anoop Mishra is part of the Army's College of Military EngineeringLucknow:
An Indian Army Major who had developed a bulletproof jacket for protection against sniper bullets, has now developed a helmet which is claimed to be first such in the world that can stop an AK-47 bullet round from a distance of 10 meters.
"The ballistic helmet has been developed under project Abhedya by Major Anoop Mishra who has also developed a full-body protection bulletproof jacket which can withstand even sniper rifles," Army officials told news agency ANI.
The officer is part of the Indian Army's College of Military Engineering and had got into the development of bulletproof jackets after he had received gunshots on his vintage bulletproof jacket.
Along with this, Indian Army's College of Military Engineering jointly with a private firm has developed India's first and world's cheapest gunshot locator. It can locate the exact location of the bullet from distance of 400 meters which will help to locate and neutralise terrorists faster.
"During 2016-17, 50,000 bulletproof jackets had been procured for Indian Army through Revenue route. The Contract for procurement of 1,86,138 BPJs through Capital route, under Buy (Indian) category, has been concluded in April 2018. Further, a contract for procurement of 1,58,279 Ballistic Helmet through Capital route had been concluded in December 2016," the then Minister of State for Defence, Subhash Bhamre had informed Lok Sabha in a written reply in July 2018.
The College of Military Engineering (CME) at Pune, a premier tactical & Technical training institution is the alma mater of the Corps of Engineers.
CME is responsible for training of personnel of the Corps of Engineers besides imparting instructions in Combat Engineering, CBRN Protection, Works Services and GIS matters to the personnel of All Arms & Services.
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No more imports, army kick starts process to order anti-tank guided missiles from Indian industry
Seeking to cut down the import bill, the army has kicked started a process to order new anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM) from the Indian industry, preferring the domestic route for over 2,000 missiles, a number that could grow exponentially given its requirements.
The third generation ATGM project, which will replace thousands of Milan and Konours missiles that are currently in service, is being looked at keenly by the private sector, with some companies in advanced stages of prototype development.
The army has asked Indian companies – both private and public sector players like Bharat Dynamics Limited – to submit their `expression of interest’ in the program, which will be followed by the tendering process, trials and evaluations and commercial negotiations.
Spelling out its requirements, the army has said that the present anti tank capabilities have been in service for more than three decades and there is a need to catch up with other armed forces across the world that have third generation missiles.
“These systems have better accuracy, enhanced lethality, a higher kill probability, day and night operation capability and ensure better survivability for the operating crew,” an army document on the requirement says, inviting Indian vendors to develop a prototype to offer for testing.
While there are a handful of Indian companies that claim to have the technology, the army is open to them having a foreign collaborator as long as there is a minimum of 40% indigenous content (IC) as the contract will be processed under the Indigenous Designed and Manufactured (IDDM) category.
The army has promised the industry an assured order of 101 launchers and 2330 missiles if the trials are successful but the potential orders in the coming decade could be ten times this number. For example, just last year the army cleared the purchase of 5,000 of the older generation Milan 2T missiles to replenish stocks.
To meet immediate needs, the army has placed an emergency order for third generation missiles on Israel’s Rafael. The order is for 210 missiles and a dozen launchers and is being processed on the fast track basis.
Indian companies like the Kalyani Group and VEM Technologies have already initiated work on the systems, with others like Solar Industries also in the reckoning. Not to be left behind, the state owned BDL, which has manufactured the Milan series of missiles in India, too is ready with an offering. BDL launched its ‘Amogha III’ ATGM at the just concluded DefExpo in Lucknow.
https://www.defencenews.in/article/...k-guided-missiles-from-Indian-industry-809254
Seeking to cut down the import bill, the army has kicked started a process to order new anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM) from the Indian industry, preferring the domestic route for over 2,000 missiles, a number that could grow exponentially given its requirements.
The third generation ATGM project, which will replace thousands of Milan and Konours missiles that are currently in service, is being looked at keenly by the private sector, with some companies in advanced stages of prototype development.
The army has asked Indian companies – both private and public sector players like Bharat Dynamics Limited – to submit their `expression of interest’ in the program, which will be followed by the tendering process, trials and evaluations and commercial negotiations.
Spelling out its requirements, the army has said that the present anti tank capabilities have been in service for more than three decades and there is a need to catch up with other armed forces across the world that have third generation missiles.
“These systems have better accuracy, enhanced lethality, a higher kill probability, day and night operation capability and ensure better survivability for the operating crew,” an army document on the requirement says, inviting Indian vendors to develop a prototype to offer for testing.
While there are a handful of Indian companies that claim to have the technology, the army is open to them having a foreign collaborator as long as there is a minimum of 40% indigenous content (IC) as the contract will be processed under the Indigenous Designed and Manufactured (IDDM) category.
The army has promised the industry an assured order of 101 launchers and 2330 missiles if the trials are successful but the potential orders in the coming decade could be ten times this number. For example, just last year the army cleared the purchase of 5,000 of the older generation Milan 2T missiles to replenish stocks.
To meet immediate needs, the army has placed an emergency order for third generation missiles on Israel’s Rafael. The order is for 210 missiles and a dozen launchers and is being processed on the fast track basis.
Indian companies like the Kalyani Group and VEM Technologies have already initiated work on the systems, with others like Solar Industries also in the reckoning. Not to be left behind, the state owned BDL, which has manufactured the Milan series of missiles in India, too is ready with an offering. BDL launched its ‘Amogha III’ ATGM at the just concluded DefExpo in Lucknow.
https://www.defencenews.in/article/...k-guided-missiles-from-Indian-industry-809254
I was disappointed when both BDL and DRDO didn't showed their missile launchers.
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So many bad news coming in all at once, ATAGS ,FICV deals go to foriegners, AK203 deal is a rip off, Tejas MK1A delay etc... Sorely miss Parrikar. He would have ensured all these requirements went to indigenous industry. Kadi ninda is damn useless !
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It’s a bad phase entire country seems to be going thru, hardly any good news coming out these days.
Why you holding blame to Parrikar's absense or his successor. Decision making with geopolitic component is coming from PMO.
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Or we are just reacting to gossip & rumours , for which defence dalals are good at.
Tejas Mk1A file already been moved.
ATAGS gone to foreign OEM? That's a news for me.
FICV has no indigenous participation practically.
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New thal sena bhawan..................
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Looks like an insect from above. I don't like it
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