Indian Army Artillery

[Blackwater]

Note from 6 mins..

phaaaaji honi ki kah rahe ha???

 

[Kunal Biswas]

phaaaaji honi ki kah rahe ha???

Yahi ki yeah ak 155mm /52cal SPGH haa, Aur yeah export ka liya bana haa, isme sub kuch haa, pls khrid lo, aur ham ko amir karo..

 

[agentperry]

cant we make something like parleG. super effective cheap efficient and easily available.

DESH KI TOP..
or like voltas ac.
JAISA DESH KA DIL WAISA DESH KA GOLA

 

[Kunal Biswas]

cant we make something like parleG. super effective cheap efficient and easily available.

DESH KI TOP..
or like voltas ac.
JAISA DESH KA DIL WAISA DESH KA GOLA

Yeah, Army and MOD asked few months back DRDO to make one..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

does the ofb manufactures 155*45 caliber bofors artillery only for defence expos or the army as well?

 

[Zebra]

 

[Armand2REP]

I don't even care if you buy the CEASAR mod, just buy some damn ARTY!!!

 

[Zebra]

 

[Zebra]

 

[Armand2REP]

 

[bengalraider]

While still on the lookout for possible secret SPH acquisitions i found this on the DRDO website, thought you guys would be interested to comment . we all know how DENEL was blacklisted and we never got the BHIM but what if we actually did get some BHIM units?

products developed
BHIM - T6
A state-of-the-art 155mm Self Propelled gun named BHIM has been developed by CVRDE by integrating the T6 turret of M/S LIW, South Africa onto the Arjun derivative chassis system. After successful field trials, Army has recommended induction of this equipment into service. M/S BEML has been nominated as the nodal agency for the production of 100 nos. of BHIM. M/S BEML is to manufacture BHIM chassis and integrate with T6 turret.

source :DRDO

 

[SPIEZ]

While still on the lookout for possible secret SPH acquisitions i found this on the DRDO website, thought you guys would be interested to comment . we all know how DENEL was blacklisted and we never got the BHIM but what if we actually did get some BHIM units?



source :DRDO

There was article on BHIM being useless in Battle front, Had to do something with its weight and that class of weapon being removed from most other armies which did venture out to develop it.
That's why the MoD had to cancel it.

 

[bengalraider]

There was article on BHIM being useless in Battle front, Had to do something with its weight and that class of weapon being removed from most other armies which did venture out to develop it.
That's why the MoD had to cancel it.

BHIM was cancelled only because of one reason, DENEL being blacklisted;there were no other factors. It was a good gun!

well actually only the BHIM version with the T-6 turret was cancelled as per my discussion with the DRDO team at the last DEFEXPO they are trying to mate other turrets onto the ARJUN hull and we might get a completely new gun in a few more years!

 

[bengalraider]

The banning of DENEL also led us to lose the CONDOR , this was a truck mounted howitzer specifically developed for the IA by DENEL.

Denel Land Systems 155 mm T5 Condor self-propelled artillery system (South Africa) - Jane's Armour and Artillery

and we also lost the T-72 M1 based SPH also developed for the IA by DENEL.

 

[SPIEZ]

BHIM was cancelled only because of one reason, DENEL being blacklisted;there were no other factors. It was a good gun!

well actually only the BHIM version with the T-6 turret was cancelled as per my discussion with the DRDO team at the last DEFEXPO they are trying to mate other turrets onto the ARJUN hull and we might get a completely new gun in a few more years!

That might have also been the reason, but I m sure of what I ve read.

 

[Anshu Attri]

Bofors reloaded: Defence ministry stung again


Bofors reloaded: Defence ministry stung again - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: Allegations of kickbacks paid to middlemen in purchase of Bofors artillery guns led to one of the worst electoral defeats for Congress party in the late 80s, and since then the Army has been unable to purchase even a single new artillery gun for over the past 25 years.

But there is a yet unheard of twist to the Bofors scam, it now emerges. Sources said the blame for Army's stalled artillery modernization may lie closer home, with the government sitting on the transfer of technology that permits India to manufacture the Bofors gun in the country.

As the military top brass desperately look around for solutions to the crippling shortage of artillery guns, they stumbled upon the fact that India actually has the entire drawings of the Bofors guns, and had paid for the transfer of technology to manufacture the gun in India. But the Ordnance Factory Board sat on the drawings all these years, never attempting to make the gun in India.

A senior official, not very amused at the turn of events, told TOI that they have now asked OFB to manufacture six prototypes of the Bofors artillery guns within the next 18 months. "If we had indigenous capability, then all these years of effort to buy foreign guns and such crippling shortage in capabilities wouldn't have been there," he said.

A senior military source said the OFB has now been asked to manufacture two guns of the 155/39 mm caliber, the original make of the Bofors gun bought in the 80s. Two others would be of the same caliber but upgraded with new capabilities. The OFB has also been asked to make two guns of 155/45 mm caliber. All the six guns would be towed guns, sources said.

Once they are ready, the Army would put them through extensive field trials and once cleared, OFB could then resort to mass production, one of the officials said.

Despite repeated efforts, OFB representatives were not available for comments on the transfer of technology for Bofors. One OFB official said the board has "dedicated and fully integrated facility for manufacture of various calibers of artillery guns".

For years after the Bofors scandal, there were no efforts to buy new generation artillery guns. When the Kargil conflict of 1999 took place, the Army had to cannibalise some of the guns to run the rest of them to deadly effect.

Over the years, there have been several trials, cancellations, retrials and other efforts. But none of them have succeeded in getting the Army a new generation of artillery guns, leading to serious concern among the Army top brass about the war fighting capabilities.

The closest government came to buying a new generation of artillery guns recently was when the Army concluded detailed field trials, maintenance assessments etc for a government-to-government deal with the US for buying Ultra Light Howitzers for mountains. But even that has now run into legal tangle, with the defence ministry telling Army that a High Court order may be a hindrance. Now the entire issue is under legal examination.

 

[Tuco]

Hows thats even possible,just wow, i forgot that i had complete drawings of bofors gun . i mean no words to describe this stupidity, what else have they "forgotten" .

 

[bengalraider]

The thing is why has this news come out after so many years? why not during the NDA govt or the PVNR govt?
I believe this is part of an "break the door down" job by Bae and Madame( I would still love to see a thousand BOFORS FH-77's in the IA though)
Do the math gentlemen , the OFB will need to collaborate with BAe to mordenise the Old designs also BAe will get licensing fees for the new guns,I would not be surprised if the old license has run past it's renewal date.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

1 155/45 cal with APU / Without APU and crane
2 155/39 cal ( Ultra light ) with APU / Without APU and crane