Modified version built by Romania using the T-55 as a base it has numerous differences including an extra wheel.small doubt,
How could this be based T-55?
T-55 series have 5 ground wheels, but this has 6 ground wheels!
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And I find that rather weird because it just doesn't make any sense??I mean why would they do that, why would they wanna cling on to the outdated stuffs when more modern, cheaper and simpler to produce and above all, outright better alternatives are almost readily available??Does it originate from their love for legacy stuffs, I hope it isn't because if that's indeed the case, then I'm afraid it's pretty, in fact a stupendously stupid practice to follow, in such a line of business they are into.
You speak as if that is some achievement, beating a round by an inch, which was designed way back in the early 80s!!Actually, we aren't even sure if that is true since the MkI penetrator is actually much shorter than the BM 42 penetrators!!
Calm down. Who said Rifled Guns were outdated? Blindly following the Westerners/Russians are we?
The engineers.
Following, definitely; blindly, not at all!!In fact, it appears you are the one who's been blinded by his sense of nationalism!!
Yeah, please, show me one, I mean really a real one and the usual and boring ghissi-pity stuffs and I will stop my rants right there, once and for all, plain and simple, the offer is still valid.
Ahh....................same old ghissi-pity stuff just what I had come to fear.It's a Pure bollocks actually, sorry, no offense to you, but it's still pure bollocks.
A shit round which became outdated a long time ago!!And who the hell still uses HESH in this day and age, really??
Do you even realise I was actually talking about its gun and not about its mobility performance??So why are you even bringing this up here??!!How is this statement (or part of a statement to be more precise) relevant to the discussion??
Yeah, the keyword here is 'OUTGUNNED', and not 'OVERPOWERED'.What it really means is that, during the trials, Arjuns could hit targets more accurately at a more consistent basis compared to the T 90S, on account of the better FCS of the former.........................nothing more and nothing less!!It has got much less to do with the lethality of the respective guns and ammo but has got everything to do with the FCS and skill level of the individual gunners!!
The engineers.
Following, definitely; blindly, not at all!!In fact, it appears you are the one who's been blinded by his sense of nationalism!!
Yeah, please, show me one, I mean really a real one and the usual and boring ghissi-pity stuffs and I will stop my rants right there, once and for all, plain and simple, the offer is still valid.
Ahh....................same old ghissi-pity stuff just what I had come to fear.I'm kinda disappointed to be honest, how much I had hoped for something else, something ingenious but...............actually, I kinda knew where this was gonna get.Anyway, it's a pure bollocks of a theory actually which has got nothing to do with the reality.I mean, I know you put on much efforts to come up with this theory of yours and I wish it were true but..............I'm really sorry, no offence to you, but it's still pure bollocks.
Another one!!Dude, give it a rest, it's shit round which went out of date a long time ago, in fact almost immediately after its inception!!And which self respecting army still uses shit like HESH in this day and age, really??
Do you even realise I was actually talking about the performance of the guns and ammo and not about the mobility performance??So why are you even bringing this up here??!!How is this statement (or rather part of a statement to be more precise) relevant to the discussion??
Yeah, the keyword here is 'OUTGUNNED', and not 'OVERPOWERED'.What it really means is that, during the trials, Arjuns could hit targets more accurately at a more consistent basis compared to the T 90S, on account of the better FCS of the former.........................nothing more and nothing less!!It has got much less to do with the lethality of the respective guns and ammo but has got everything to do with the FCS and skill level of the individual gunners!!
Sir, the British Challenger 2 uses a rifled gun.
HESH rounds haven't gone out of date FYI. The modern versions are still highly effective against structures and fortifications.Another one!!Dude, give it a rest, it's shit round which went out of date a long time ago, in fact almost immediately after its inception!!And which self respecting army still uses shit like HESH in this day and age, really??
Please don't call me sir, I'm just 22 for crying out loud!!And by modern, I meant newly built ones like Leopard 2 A5 onwards, Char Leclerc, K2 Black Panther etc etc.Challengers aren't really that new.But thanks anyway.
They have, for most parts at least.
Absolutely not!!HESH rounds are rather extremely easy to counter with very simple solutions.
I know that, mostly because of convenience issues rather than their actual effectiveness in their intended roles.And in any case, just because of the fact that the British still use them doesn't make them any deadlier, does it??
As far as tanks are concerned, no, it ain't!!
And I rest my case .... LOL ...........The engineers.
Following, definitely; blindly, not at all!!In fact, it appears you are the one who's been blinded by his sense of nationalism!!
Yeah, please, show me one, I mean really a real one and the usual and boring ghissi-pity stuffs and I will stop my rants right there, once and for all, plain and simple, the offer is still valid.
Ahh....................same old ghissi-pity stuff just what I had come to fear.I'm kinda disappointed to be honest, how much I had hoped for something else, something ingenious but...............actually, I kinda knew where this was gonna get.Anyway, it's a pure bollocks of a theory actually which has got nothing to do with the reality.I mean, I know you put on much efforts to come up with this theory of yours and I wish it were true but..............I'm really sorry, no offence to you, but it's still pure bollocks.
Another one!!Dude, give it a rest, it's shit round which went out of date a long time ago, in fact almost immediately after its inception!!And which self respecting army still uses shit like HESH in this day and age, really??
Do you even realise I was actually talking about the performance of the guns and ammo and not about the mobility performance??So why are you even bringing this up here??!!How is this statement (or rather part of a statement to be more precise) relevant to the discussion??
Yeah, the keyword here is 'OUTGUNNED', and not 'OVERPOWERED'.What it really means is that, during the trials, Arjuns could hit targets more accurately at a more consistent basis compared to the T 90S, on account of the better FCS of the former.........................nothing more and nothing less!!It has got much less to do with the lethality of the respective guns and ammo but has got everything to do with the FCS and skill level of the individual gunners!!
And just because Arjun could tag targets more consistently, doesn't mean it can actually kill its targets as well!!It's not really that complicated if you think about it but for that, you would need to throw down your glasses of blind nationalism..................apparently a very difficult thing to do for some people it seems!!
Offtopic, Challenger 2 is a shit tank. Lets not make it a role model. Arjun's Gun is far superior to that.
So principally, anything that doesn't confirm to your logic isn't true.
I'm not doubting the Arjun's Gun. Just quoted the example to show our friend here that rifled guns are used on modern tanks.
Yeah,and that is all you could come up with!!No wonder the D.F.I is going to dogs, lately its standard has really hit the rock bottom.
