Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

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Russia is awaiting India's decision on a $2.2 billion deal for purchase of MiG-29 and Su-30 MKI fighter jets, according to a media report.
Earlier in July 2020, Defence Minister Rajnath Singh led Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) had approved a proposal for procurement of 21 MiG-29 fighter aircraft, along with upgradation of 59 Mig-29s, and 12 more Su-30 MKI aircraft for Rs 18,148 crore (around $2.2 billion).

As per the proposal, Sukhoi Su-30 MKI were to be assembled at state-owned aerospace and defense company Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).
Any status update of the Mig-29 procurement?
 

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Extra Su30 will never happen.

Few years later once Ukraine war dust settles, MiG-29s will be bought silently under some pretext of "cannibalising parts" if Russia still has those and not gotten them downed already.
Man those Fulcrums are going to be beat up with the war service under them
 

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IDRW is notoriously unreliable. Anyway they're just regurgitating known facts. Regarding IAF's possible involvement in the program, it's too early to say anything. A lot will depend on how the MRFA goes. If the Rafale is chosen and there is a contract, then the IAF will show no interest in an IAF variant of TEDBF. If there are more delays (which is very likely) then as time passes the IAF leadership will begin to look more closely at an IAF variant of the TEDBF.
 

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The Indian Air Force, which is looking to procure Medium Transport Aircraft (MTA), is carrying out a comprehensive study to identify the current and future payload-carrying requirements of the force. It has already issued a Request For Information (RFI) to global manufacturers for aircraft with load-carrying capacity between 18 to 30 tonnes. The 2020 stand-off with China in Eastern Ladakh has changed the nature of airlift and support for the Army required in high-altitude areas, two officials independently stated.

“There is a need to identify the current payload-carrying capacity. IAF is also in discussions with vendors. The study is ongoing and should take about six months to be completed,” an official source said. This comes as several of the legacy transport fleets are in need of replacement. The exact requirements of the MTA would be finalised based on the outcome of the study, the source stated.

The RFI for a MTA was issued in December 2022 and the deadline to respond was extended till March 31, 2023. There are three responses to the RFI, officials confirmed. These include Airbus A-400M, Lockheed Martin C-130, and Embraer C-390. Among them, the A-400M has a maximum carrying capacity of 37 tonnes, the C-130 close to 20 tonnes, and the C-390 up to 26 tonnes.

The MTA could become a potential replacement for a part of the much smaller AN-32s in service and could also replace the larger IL-76, which is also being looked into. For instance, from the experiences of the stand-off, the Army is looking to procure a light tank weighing up to 25 tonnes for deployment in the mountains especially in Eastern Ladakh. So, IAF needs sizeable number of aircraft to airlift them and the MTA with the requisite load capacity can cater to that, several officials noted. There is a huge gap in carrying capacities at the moment with the current aircraft which needs to adjusted, one of the officials said.

The transport fleet of the IAF currently consists of over 100 AN-32s, AVROs, IL-76 heavy transporters, IL-78 mid-air refuelling tankers from Russia, as well as 12 C-130J Super Hercules and 11 C-17 Globemaster strategic airlift aircraft from the U.S. Of these, the IL-76 has a capacity to lift 45-50 tonnes and the C-17 up to 70 tonnes.

In September 2021, the Defence Ministry signed a ₹21,935-crore contract with Airbus and Space S.A., Spain, for procurement of 56 C-295MW transport aircraft to replace the AVRO aircraft in service which is being executed in partnership with Tata Advanced Systems Limited (TASL) and a Final Assembly Line is being set up in Vadodara, Gujarat, as part of the deal. The first C-295 aircraft is scheduled to be delivered to IAF in September.The C-295 has a capacity of nine tonnes and can carry up to 71 troops or 50 paratroopers. Part of the AN-32 fleet could be replaced with C-295s which are of similar category, officials stated.

While the RFI did not specify the number of MTA required, vendors have been asked to provide “Rough Order of Magnitude [ROM] cost of aircraft and associated equipment” for a batch of 40, 60, and 80 aircraft. On this, officials said the number required is being assessed and the study will bring out the number required.
 

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The Indian Air Force, which is looking to procure Medium Transport Aircraft (MTA), is carrying out a comprehensive study to identify the current and future payload-carrying requirements of the force. It has already issued a Request For Information (RFI) to global manufacturers for aircraft with load-carrying capacity between 18 to 30 tonnes. The 2020 stand-off with China in Eastern Ladakh has changed the nature of airlift and support for the Army required in high-altitude areas, two officials independently stated.

“There is a need to identify the current payload-carrying capacity. IAF is also in discussions with vendors. The study is ongoing and should take about six months to be completed,” an official source said. This comes as several of the legacy transport fleets are in need of replacement. The exact requirements of the MTA would be finalised based on the outcome of the study, the source stated.

The RFI for a MTA was issued in December 2022 and the deadline to respond was extended till March 31, 2023. There are three responses to the RFI, officials confirmed. These include Airbus A-400M, Lockheed Martin C-130, and Embraer C-390. Among them, the A-400M has a maximum carrying capacity of 37 tonnes, the C-130 close to 20 tonnes, and the C-390 up to 26 tonnes.

The MTA could become a potential replacement for a part of the much smaller AN-32s in service and could also replace the larger IL-76, which is also being looked into. For instance, from the experiences of the stand-off, the Army is looking to procure a light tank weighing up to 25 tonnes for deployment in the mountains especially in Eastern Ladakh. So, IAF needs sizeable number of aircraft to airlift them and the MTA with the requisite load capacity can cater to that, several officials noted. There is a huge gap in carrying capacities at the moment with the current aircraft which needs to adjusted, one of the officials said.

The transport fleet of the IAF currently consists of over 100 AN-32s, AVROs, IL-76 heavy transporters, IL-78 mid-air refuelling tankers from Russia, as well as 12 C-130J Super Hercules and 11 C-17 Globemaster strategic airlift aircraft from the U.S. Of these, the IL-76 has a capacity to lift 45-50 tonnes and the C-17 up to 70 tonnes.

In September 2021, the Defence Ministry signed a ₹21,935-crore contract with Airbus and Space S.A., Spain, for procurement of 56 C-295MW transport aircraft to replace the AVRO aircraft in service which is being executed in partnership with Tata Advanced Systems Limited (TASL) and a Final Assembly Line is being set up in Vadodara, Gujarat, as part of the deal. The first C-295 aircraft is scheduled to be delivered to IAF in September.The C-295 has a capacity of nine tonnes and can carry up to 71 troops or 50 paratroopers. Part of the AN-32 fleet could be replaced with C-295s which are of similar category, officials stated.

While the RFI did not specify the number of MTA required, vendors have been asked to provide “Rough Order of Magnitude [ROM] cost of aircraft and associated equipment” for a batch of 40, 60, and 80 aircraft. On this, officials said the number required is being assessed and the study will bring out the number required.
If the ability to carry 25 ton tank is also being considered, then A400 is the only way to go. Moreover, since we already have the C-295 to be built in India under the Airbus ecosystem, this will give it the further advantage!!
 

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If the ability to carry 25 ton tank is also being considered, then A400 is the only way to go. Moreover, since we already have the C-295 to be built in India under the Airbus ecosystem, this will give it the further advantage!!
Ah so that's why the weight was specified to 25 tons for the light tank.
 

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In which universe do you think US will allow us access to YF-23 which was part of their 5th Gen fighter development??
in this universe if India can persuade usa as i say beggars cant be chooses and we are lagging behind best is we follow the buy borrow steal with 2nd being most respectable for us
 

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Saar why will US sell their YF23 when they don't export f22 and won't ever forget yf23.?
Also even if we buy the Airframe design what about engines and the other subsystems will US also sell them?
Whole article is a fanfiction imo.
didnt GE get a go ahead to 80% tot to india, what use for those engines if those engines arent to be used in india future jets btw if you have a better idea as to how we can replace su30mki with a 6th en jet by 2050 pls share
 

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