Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[Shirman]

comparing mig-21Bison to Tejas mk1 is like comparing this

to this

 

[SajeevJino]

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F 4 is a Very capable fighter in the 1970 . the same goes for MiG 21

F 18 is also a very capable fighter in the 2015. but not the same for Tejas MK 1,2,3,4..... (1-∞)

 

[salute]

F 4 is a Very capable fighter in the 1970 . the same goes for MiG 21

F 18 is also a very capable fighter in the 2015. but not the same for Tejas MK 1,2,3,4..... (1-∞)

what ???

don't like anything said against israel,
this is same as muslims they also dont like anything said against saudi arabia,

you same run to israel like muslims to saudi arabia,

are you indian or israeli ???

you are from south india,india is only home you got,

and what is this,

F 18 is also a very capable fighter in the 2015. but not the same for Tejas MK 1,2,3,4..... (1-∞)

lca mk 1-2-3-4 ???

when 2-3-4 ??? came into existence,
even lca mk.1 is not ready yet,

f-18 is twin engine jet if you don't know and lca mk.1 is single engine.

 

[Pulkit]

what ???

don't like anything said against israel,
this is same as muslims they also dont like anything said against saudi arabia,

you same run to israel like muslims to saudi arabia,

are you indian or israeli ???

you are from south india,india is only home you got,

and what is this,

lca mk 1-2-3-4 ???

when 2-3-4 ??? came into existence,
even lca mk.1 is not ready yet,

f-18 is twin engine jet if you don't know and lca mk.1 is single engine.

With all due respect Salute I did not like the way you have expressed you feelings.
Kindly be as parliamentary as possible while responding....

 

[SajeevJino]

what ???

don't like anything said against israel,
this is same as muslims they also dont like anything said against saudi arabia,
you same run to israel like muslims to saudi arabia,
are you indian or israeli ???
you are from south india,india is only home you got,
and what is this,
lca mk 1-2-3-4 ???
when 2-3-4 ??? came into existence,
even lca mk.1 is not ready yet,
f-18 is twin engine jet if you don't know and lca mk.1 is single engine.

Salute.. for the Very Good Post saar

 

[salute]

Salute.. for the Very Good Post saar

no profe-saar,

your mathematics is excellent,

F 18 is also a very capable fighter in the 2015. but not the same for Tejas MK 1,2,3,4..... (1-∞)

is that symbol of infinity ???

 

[Zebra]

wrong post...................................................................

 

[R.parida]

http://www.geaviation.com/engines/docs/military/datasheet-F414-Family.pdf

 

[blueblood]

http://www.geaviation.com/engines/docs/military/datasheet-F414-Family.pdf

Please introduce yourself in the Introduction thread. Thank you.

 

[R.parida]

Please introduce yourself in the Introduction thread. Thank you.

Thank you, i just shared my details in introduction.

 

[Kyubi]

Thank you, i just shared my details in introduction.

have a wonderful time here at DFI

 

[ersakthivel]

what ???

don't like anything said against israel,
this is same as muslims they also dont like anything said against saudi arabia,

you same run to israel like muslims to saudi arabia,

are you indian or israeli ???

you are from south india,india is only home you got,

and what is this,

lca mk 1-2-3-4 ???

when 2-3-4 ??? came into existence,
even lca mk.1 is not ready yet,

f-18 is twin engine jet if you don't know and lca mk.1 is single engine.

He just doesn't know anything about the stuff he is posting about.
No need to take him seriously and start an argument.
It will only add to e-waste here.

 

[ersakthivel]

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The MiG 21 Bison fires BVR Missiles, But till The LCA didn't fired any BVR. it's belived that Derby will be integrated and fired from Tejas before the FOC.

both of them fires the Heat seeking missiles using bore sight.

If we compare the LCA with 1960 plane MiG 21, the newest plane wins every aspects, But new generation means new Tech New Threats. But LCA is a good Fighter when in 1990's for his capabilities.

Means LCA is 30 years of advance tech than MiG 21 Bison.

If tejas can never BVR , why are they putting a radar on its nose and pylons under its wings?


It has been explained a thousand times to you that BVR firing has nothing to do with design limitations in tejas,

The delay in delivery of the Quartz radome ordered from Cobham is the sole reason for BVR firing still not being validated in tejas.

And all other things like crucial R73 firing both in IR and radar guided mode were already demonstrated.

Once Cobham supplies the radome tejas mk1 will fire both Astra and Derby.

So dont worry. It will just take a month or two at the most.


What Suneeth krishna said about tejas ,"its ours and we can upgrade it in batches as per our wish", is being proved now by tejas mk I-P proposal with Elta 2052 ASEA radar and Nwe gen Israeli optical- Ew suit.

SO on Avionics and weapon fit it is second to none when you compare with any other 4.5th gen fighter.
ADA chief in an interview to Ajai Shukla has said that tejas mk2 can have interface for firing Meteor if IAF wished for it. Only thing is our IAF is yet to express a wish for mating meteor with tejas mk2!!!

With continuing upgrades like this, LCA will be good figher even in 2030s and 2040s and hundreds of them will be used both in IAF and Indian navy. No need to worry on that count.

Whats more it will push IAf's base line fighting capability above the latest F-16 upgrades at a mouth watering price , with tiny forex out go , when inducted in high hundreds , which this NDA govt is sure going to do.

its ASEA radars will seemlessly integrate with AWACS Asea from DRDO and will provide full battle field control for IAF over indian air space.this fully network centric capability with low clean config RCS andd high ITR along with a radar dia bigger than Rafale is the heart of tejas capability addition to IAF.

thats where the strength of tejas lies.

 

[PaliwalWarrior]

WRT to firing BVR missiles

the key is radar range of the fighter iring the BVR

because if the radar lock on range is 70km then it dose not mater even i you have a 150+Km range A2A missile

the radar range of LCA is going to be more than the radar range of Mig21 - for now

Also the space to fit Radar in LCA is more thn even the radar space of Rafale - so think o the possibilities in future 2-3 years from now

 

[tejas warrior]

For BVR combat mission, we already have 200+ SU30 MKI each of them can be loaded with 12+ BVR missiles, so there is nothing to worry.

If required, they can provide cover to Tejas in any mission like Mig29 did to Mirage 2000 in kargil.

Not each fighter is supposed to do everything, Tejas should be ordered in 200+ numbers can easily work in 70% of total mission of IAF.

 

[Zebra]

http://aviationweek.com/paris-air-s...ide-engines-hal-made-indian-training-aircraft

Honeywell To Provide Engines for HAL-Made Indian Training Aircraft
Jun 17, 2015 Jen DiMascio | ShowNews

Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) has chosen Honeywell’s TPE331-12B turboprop engine for its HTT-40 military training aircraft for the Indian air force.

The HTT-40 program’s future had been uncertain, because the Indian air force opposed the purchase of HAL-made trainers. And earlier this year, India opted to buy 38 PC-7 Mk.2 trainers from Pilatus to meet its requirement for 181 Stage 1 basic trainer aircraft.

But in an example of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s “Make in India” initiative, defense acquisition officials rescued the HTT-40 from the dead. They insisted the air force buy enough HTT-40 aircraft from HAL to make the project commercially viable.

“Our TPE331-12B is one of the most widely used and capable turboprop engines in service today,” said Arijit Ghosh, president, Honeywell Aerospace India. “With our engine at its core, HAL’s new, locally developed HTT-40 will offer pilots rapid acceleration, low fuel consumption, improved reliability and the ability to train for a wide range of missions.”

As of March, the HTT-40 prototype was scheduled to make its first flight in June.

The win is part of a trend for ongoing growth in international sales for Honeywell. The company has seen its international defense business share grow to 30% and expects to see even more international sales in the future.

 

[Zebra]

http://idrw.org/hal-chooses-tpe331-for-new-indian-basic-trainer/

HAL Chooses TPE331 for New Indian Basic Trainer
Published June 20, 2015 | By admin
SOURCE : AIN ONLINE

Hindustan Aeronautics (HAL) has chosen the Honeywell TPE331-12B turboprop to power its proposed new basic trainer. The HTT-40 is the delayed indigenous candidate to replace the old HPT-32 piston-engine basic trainer in the Indian Air Force (IAF). After delays in development of the HTT-40, the IAF bought 75 Pilatus PC-7 Mk II turboprops as an interim measure. Those aircraft are now being delivered.

“Our TPE331-12B is one of the most widely used and capable turboprop engines in service today,” said Anjit Ghosh, president of Honeywell Aerospace India. “With our engine at its core, HAL’s new, locally developed HTT-40 will offer pilots rapid acceleration, low fuel consumption, improved reliability and the ability to train for a variety of missions.”

However, the IAF is reportedly reluctant to introduce a second type of basic trainer. It is exercising another 38 options in the contract with Pilatus, bringing the total of Swiss airplanes ordered to 113, against a total basic training fleet requirement of 181.

Honeywell has delivered some 13,000 TPE331s for both military and civil applications, and they have logged 122 million flight hours.

 

[Pulkit]

http://www.msn.com/en-in/news/natio...e-on-its-squadrons/ar-AAc3i3Z#image=AA8t4Pw|8

The Rafale deal with France is yet to materialise, but the Indian Air Force is set to lose 54 fighter jets within the next six months. The planes - MiG 21s and MiG 27s, bought from Russia in the 60s and 70s - will be de-commissioned, bringing down the strength of the Air Force from 35 to 32 squadrons.

The Air Force - which needs at least 42 squadrons of 18 aircraft each to provide proper air cover at the Western and Northern borders - is now considering an unprecedented step to fill the gap, said sources.

The IAF has told the government that it could divert four to six planes from the existing squadrons - depending on requirement - to keep the total number of squadrons intact. "We will have to pull out about 50 odd aircrafts from other squadrons and make up 3 squadrons," a senior Air Force officer told NDTV.

The flip side will be that it will reduce the operational strength and therefore the fire power of the squadrons.

The loss to each squadron at times could be more than six jets, since the fighters will sometimes be unavailable due to repairs and maintenance. The 18 fighters of a squadron include two trainers and two fighters in reserve.

"In effect, the number of fighters available at times for operational deployment will be even lower," the officer said.

MiG-21s are interceptor jets, used for air defence and air to ground attacks. MiG-27s are used for ground attack and a variety of purposes like destroying infrastructure.

But the Rafale jets -capable of deep penetration strike - that were to plug the critical gap are still far away. India has also scaled down the number of aircraft it planned to acquire from France from 126 to 36 off-the-shelf jets. Defence minister Manohar Parrikar had said they were "way too expensive".

And it will be another five years before indigenously built fighter jet Tejas can be deployed in a combat role.

"The IAF will fight with whatever we have, but the situation isn't a very happy one," a senior officer said.

This is why people are loosing respect for the defense forces.
They lingered all these years kept pushing Tejas in a way or other and now they are saying its not a happy situation and we will fight with what ever we have.

We have Tejas whose record in terms of flights in impeccable.

If they are that serious they must revisit the policies of Imported Airforce.

This is just a stunt to increase order size or Rafale .
I hope our current DM calls there bluff this time,
This appears to be pure blackmailing.

 

[bennedose]

Why does the IAF recruitment ad have an F-18?

 

[blueblood]

Why does the IAF recruitment ad have an F-18?

Kyunki Indians poori tarah American camp main ho chuke hain. Unki Ijazat ke bagair woh saans bhi nahi le sakte.

Zaid Zaman Hamid (shit be upon him)