Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

vishnugupt

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This is an art which our Armed forces has mastered themselves.

Scenerio 1-
Foreign Maal (Rafale ): - First announced in 2015 and deal signed in 2016 on a assurance by Government of France and Dassault company.

Scenerio 2-
Indian product:- First announced in 2015 and immediately Armed forces asked for indian specific upgrades.
Trials goes on till 2022 and upgrades done.
Now PSUs will "OFFER" for trails and will take atleast 3 more years to compete.
By 2025 Indian product will be inducted after lots of whining....

Now see the ART. How easily they can push anything beyond 10 years.

Please do not compare this with Rafale and Tejas MK1a deal.😂😂😂😂😂
 

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Rafale will be upgraded from Jan-2022 onwards, means there is no Indian specific at present.

This also means UNAF ordered Rafale in 2016 and paid money but waiting patiently for upgrade.

Can anybody remind me such generosity ever had been shown towards Indian product by UN Armed forces ???

PSUs are ready to deliver free of cost but still UN Armed forces are not ready to give orders... What happened to all those urgent and immediate requirement about.... Platus trainer, Attack helicopter after Kargil, LUH, Artillery guns, and hundreds others .....
As per news reports when rafale deal was signed, the last Indian rafale manufactured in france will be the first rafale with India specific configuration.

if India specifc upgrades are starting to happen, then that means by then last rafale to be delivered has already been manufactured.

you can dig up news reports around that time and also the time first rafale landed in india.
 

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Pakistanis trolling on all Indian news media Facebook page. Wonder why they are fuming, they had to release abhinandan due to Indian pressure 😜
Pakistan has no value system. They only value oppression as a quality where they all aspire to oppress the weak. When they fail individually they gang up under some pretext like Islam or community or any feudal structure that legitimizes oppression in name of creating purist order.

Simply look at the history of Islam or any likewise cult. They all show themselves as superior by putting other religions down. Even if you look at the language for example Punjabi. The tonality is always loud, abrasive, and informal.

(Digressing)
Things got a little better in Indian Punjab because of Hindu influence and due to early Hindu pioneers of the literature who excavated a lot of extinct words to enrich the language. The decay however started during and post-Sikh militancy and now was in recovering phase before this so-called Farmer’s agitation started. The after-effects will be visible in a few more years.

Coming back to the topic of Pakistani reaction. With such kind of upbringing, their instincts are still primitive where they see an injured soldier as a hostage. Their slurs at Modi’s humble background, being a Chaiwala, small man, Indians being ugly and dark, etc., and consistent cover-up of their failures proves only one thing. They will always remain insecure, looking down at something or someone and conspiring to unsettle people who disagree with them or look different. Diversity, opinion, another side of the narrative, POV scares them.

Awarding our soldiers in our internal matter. Leave alone the dog fight which he fought inside Pakistani air space and his interception of large PAF flock that failed Pakistani attack which may have been more severe with the kind of package they were carrying; his capture, injury, lynching, composure and all kind of dehumanizing treatment and torture against every civilized or military norm he endured is worth the reward he got today. Pakistanis will never understand this because they save themselves with mass surrender to fight another day.

How Pakistani behavior has worked for them is all in front of us. Their popular forum started way before ours. They used to do better than us in many markers and used to predict our failure.

I now get nervous when they do not troll or poke us. Let them remain distracted and obsessed with us. We should make sure they keep getting reasons to invest their time finding our faults.

That is why I always discourage members not to get into overanalyzing them but keep it short and simple.

I hope it makes sense.
 
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पीकर जिनकी लाल शिखाएं
उगल रही सौ लपट दिशाएं,
जिनके सिंहनाद से सहमी
धरती रही अभी तक डोल।
कलम, आज उनकी जय बोल

Ramdhari Singh Dinkar.


After drinking off their red veins.
Every direction throwing up hundreds of flames.
Frightened of their lion-roar.
The earth still in after shock.
Praise them; Oh my pen.
 

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पीकर जिनकी लाल शिखाएं
उगल रही सौ लपट दिशाएं,
जिनके सिंहनाद से सहमी
धरती रही अभी तक डोल।
कलम, आज उनकी जय बोल

Ramdhari Singh Dinkar.


After drinking off their red veins.
Every direction throwing up hundreds of flames.
Frightened of their lion-roar.
The earth still in after shock.
Praise them; Oh my pen.
Absolutely accurate.
"" Pair kamp rhe the"" accepted in porky parliament . Lol
 

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As per news reports when rafale deal was signed, the last Indian rafale manufactured in france will be the first rafale with India specific configuration.

if India specifc upgrades are starting to happen, then that means by then last rafale to be delivered has already been manufactured.

you can dig up news reports around that time and also the time first rafale landed in india.
No the last trainer RB-008 was the one ear-marked to be the test bed for ISE testing in France. And once the ISE upgrades were approved, it would be the last IAF Rafale to fly out of France and be handed over to the IAF.

Now a team of IAF officials are in France to evaluate the ISE upgrades done on RB-008 are in line with the contract. If so, then the Rafales already in India will start to be upgraded and RB-008 will fly out early next year to India.
 

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When people criticise goverment for not buying enough equipment they forget how much money goes in network systems these days like these satellites / SDR / radar systems. These are not very glamourous like fighter jets or submarines . But they are most important in this era.

We perhaps need a separate thread to keep track of all networking / communication / space / radar growth of our forces.

Pakistan has been left far behind in these areas and china is not much ahead.
 

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