India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

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Most people agree to this including RW for letting the Indian Armed forces loose against Napakistan.

Most people would want to know why, despite having such a heavy victory including 93000 Ghazoids as prisoners, did we go slow on the diplomatic front viz. Kashmir.
Well in retrospect every action can be criticized and analyzed but the realities of those times were probably very different(with a hostile USA whose actions stemmed not only from geopolitics but also from personal hatred towards Indira Gandhi) and to make judgements on that we should be privy to all the information available to the establishment back then which again is close to impossible because the Indian establishment barely de-classifies anything. However questions about what looks like inefficiency can be raised but I believe judgements should not be passed for the aforementioned reason.
Then again it will be wrong on my part to expect what Indira Gandhi did to be repeated(I will be most happy if it did repeat) in 2020 because the situation is different.
 

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All goras want to (((contain))) India unless India becomes aggressive and does what it wants.
The Goras will contain you the day you become agressive (read China). In 1971 and thereafter West saw us as an agressive nation and hence the containment.
 

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Pakistani Haramzadgi and Haramzadgi of Sreeniwasan Jain, Hartosh Singh and their Librandu cabal exposed by AIM.

Though we here at DFI knew what that lie was all about and expressed it with choicest of adjectives for Indian traitors and Pakistani pigs. AIM has gone into details to slap these scums the hardest one can.



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1339183628119465985.html

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1 @DisinfoEU (EUD) brought out a report on a “web of disinformation” set up by Indian intelligence. This kangaroo court drivel followed no consistent logic & by EUD’s own standards show EUD collusion with Pakistani intelligence & left wing journos in India. Let’s examine
2 first up we need to understand what this latest report is. It adds on a report released by the same group in 2019 claiming to expose the organisation of Madi Sharma. The target this time though is to link @ANI to the Madi Sharma network
3 it claims this is a 15 year operation, IE started by the UPA government under Dr Manmohan Singh. Curiously though in these 15 years it can find only 12 instances of where @ANI this news website called EU chronicle. IE less than once a year. ImageImage
4 this is key, because we need to understand that their sample set for this “vast disinformation network” is exactly 12 articles - a serious sampling error by any stretch. But the innuendoes and stretches here are mind boggling. Let’s start with this image: it claims EU chronicle Image

5 and ANI are linked as they covered the same protests using SIMILAR angles, admitting they weren’t able to find the exact footage. However by the end of the report the innuendo becomes fact. Curiously guess who else also covers Anti Pakistan protests? @AFP used by @BBCWorld to Image
6 report the EUD story. So now I guess AFP is part of the disinformation too? Question - did @AFP verify the validity of the protest? If the protestors were paid? No. But apparently this is condemnable according to @DisinfoEU only if ANI does it. Clearly they don’t understand the
7 difference between investigative journalism and a news agency. Next - they seem to have an issue that that several EU MEPs have written for the EU chronicle (EUC). This in itself is treated as part of some conspiracy. As is the fact that ANI picked up EUC stories by these MPs
8 by this logic we can claim that EU disinfo is part of a vast left wing pakistani disinformation network given that the Pakistani NSA & Foreign Minister picked up on the report. And the coverage of the report by the @BBCWorld & @politico was driven by 2 Pakistanis. Moreover it ImageImageImageImage
9 turns out that the Indians involved in the reporting are from known left wing propaganda rags @ndtv @newslaundry & @thecaravanindia all known for amplifying Pakistani messaging in India. Unsurprisingly the @BBCWorld coauthor with the Pakistani worked in two of these lefty rags Image

10 Unsurprisingly the foreign magazines carrying @EUvsDisinfo’s report are also the leftist Le Monde & Le Jours. To note the former Le Monde correspondent Julien Bissou (modi hater karuna nundy’s ex) is a pathological hater of modi & the hindu right. A sample of his twitter. The ImageImageImage

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11 current correspondent Sophie
Landrin is as bad - note her on the environment blaming modi & avoiding the fact that Punjabi farmers are the main cause of winter pollution in Delhi, while passing of localised protests of the same Punjabi farmers as a pan india “peasant revolt” ImageImage
12 let’s take EUD’s logic further. They see conspiracy in the fact that ANI labelled certain people “Pashtun activists” without running their full affiliations. Well here’s @guardian quoting me without naming my full affiliation as well - so is guardian part of some conspiracy? ImageImage
13 it then found it particularly strange that EUC only reports on Anti Pakistan protests. Given that EUD has only reported on Indian “disinformation campaigns” And not Pakistani ones we can equally say EUD is a Pakistani tool. Added to the fact the usual suspects ran its story Image
14 EUD also has a huge problem with EUC reports being passed off with additional editorialisation by other outfits. However no problems with their partners at Le Jours similarly imposing their anti-modi editorialising on EUD’s reports. Note the goebbelsian use of modi images ImageImage
15 why do I say partners? Why do I claim coordination between these outlets? Because the metadata shows that Le Jours and Le Monde published op-Eds based on EUD’s report minutes before EUD published the source report ImageImage
16 and politico published its commentary (by a Pakistani) on the EUD report 12 minutes thereafter. Now while EUD’s report has been a litany of connected innuendo - this metadata proves actual collusion between leftists Pakistanis and EUD - no if - no but Image
17 amazingly in all of this, at no point has the content of what was produced determined to be fake. Begging the question what exactly was the “disinformation” being peddled? In short @EUvsDisinfo has run a calibrated campaign with clear signs of coordination with some Pakistanis
 

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Had heard somewhere that Russia used its veto power to stop UN from taking action when IA moved into then east pak, but had said if we try to move in west pak they will not use their veto power. Is this true?
 

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Queen Iyerval, at times, is excellent.

Good take on the Pakistani-EU/Indian leftist hit job.

The camaraderie that Indian dallas like Chutiavasan (chota mota sulti bomb wala) feel with Pakis/EU lefishits in bringing down Indian attempts is just mind boggling. How low can these Chootiyas steep down? Have they got no shame.
 

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Had heard somewhere that Russia used its veto power to stop UN from taking action when IA moved into then east pak, but had said if we try to move in west pak they will not use their veto power. Is this true?
US threatened india with war. Russia probably wanted India not to fall into american trap since things would have escalated & Indian objective for which india fought were already achieved.
 
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