India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

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Rassil Krishnan

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Thats not possible.. As long as most urban centers are not in taliban hands its ok. I dont know whats the fuss with terrorist camps in Afghanistan. Currently most terror camps are in Pakistan, and still there are no real sanctions on Pakistan. What difference will it make if these camps are shifted to Afghanistan.. As longs as Taliban does not capture a major urban center, with airports etc.. its fine.. If taliban captures airbases we might have another ic 814 like hijack. As Pakistan will have a place to park the aircraft.. or to park its fighter aircraft to avoid indian punishment during a war.
This is my opinion too.its not like afghan terrorists are some special super terrorists that is more capable than the ones they sent today.infact they are probably worse due to inexperienced in dealing with the terrain and tactics.we dealt with that even in the 90s when we had a poor infiltration grid.

And also It's not like pakistan is some place where the populace or gov is against jihadi and islamic elements from flourishing that they can't base them in central portion of the country.so what is the point of starting centers in Afghanistan if they have already setup offices in pak for use against India.why create a cheap redundancy in Afghanistan rather than concentrate on improving existing purpose built infra in Pakistan.

The only issue it seems is the obvious increase in the reach of pak within the afghan country .imho that is fine as long as some outpost like presence is kept in Afghanistan like their main cities , airfield s and bases with a population hostile to the jihadis and also which hate the pathans.its better to then turn the afghan Taliban against the Pakistan government in our favour by granting them a portion of the stake in the new afghan government.then organize attacks into paks backside.

Can someone please explain the significance of the afghan terrorists meme if I have missed anything.
 
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Our leaders take this thing seriously because most of our people seriously believe in that distorted gandhian philosophy of ahimsa crap. Trust me nobody in my locality want even a small scale war. In my highschool WhatsApp group all my classmates don't want a war even if there is a chance india will win. They don't understand difference between small scale war and real war. Simply fattu distorted ahimsa tard they are. Majority of our people and our leaders are like this don't wanna take risk ignore the problem.
Root cause for the problem is our population is not ready to face any hardship due to cause of the war. Articles like rise in fuel prices, Lose of Jobs are being used to build this narrative. Let us accept the fact, ever since 2000 when lot of IT startups emerged in south India, the talk about war, surgical strikes is not welcome, the population feels that if a war erupted, the growth attained through these things will disappear.
 

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*Satire*

We should simply create a 6 ft wide x 6 inch deep moat filled up with pig blood all along our western border, which all terrorists will have to cross while infiltrating into India. If they dip themselves in the pig's blood, their visa to Jannat gets revoked thereby nullifying their requirement of 72 hoors thus they will see the moat and go back to their sheep/camels in their native villages
You think Terrorists will simply throw their weapons and go back, For trained Fidayeen mission is the only focus, remember the terrorists who attacked mumbai on 26/11 were asked to tie saffron threads, Terrorists were also trained to avoid use of Islamic words which would reveal their identity. Need of the hour is counter terror measures not anti terror measures. If India wants to eradicate menace of terrorism it should be counter terror not anti terror measures.
 

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Al-Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahiri may have died in Afghanistan, says report
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Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri has died in Afghanistan, according to a report.


Ayman al-Zawahiri, the chief of terrorist organization Al-Qaeda, has died in Afghanistan, according to a report. However, Al-Qaeda is yet to confirm the purported death of al-Zawahiri. According to a report by Arab News, al-Zawahiri reportedly died of natural causes.
Arab News reported that Zawahiri died in Ghazni due to asthma. He had had last appeared in a video message on the anniversary of 9/11 attacks in the US.

Al-Qaeda lost its propaganda war to ISIS already, In terms recruits there is a rush among peaceful people to ISIS rather than al-qaeda, Leftist liberals who provided appreciation certification to Indian peaceful for not joining al-qaeda is now silent on Indian youth who Joined ISIS.

Death of Zawahiri will not have an impact on US Counter Terrorism activities world wide. Enough number of leaders are there in al-qaeda to replace him.
 

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Thats not possible.. As long as most urban centers are not in taliban hands its ok. I dont know whats the fuss with terrorist camps in Afghanistan. Currently most terror camps are in Pakistan, and still there are no real sanctions on Pakistan. What difference will it make if these camps are shifted to Afghanistan.. As longs as Taliban does not capture a major urban center, with airports etc.. its fine.. If taliban captures airbases we might have another ic 814 like hijack. As Pakistan will have a place to park the aircraft.. or to park its fighter aircraft to avoid indian punishment during a war.
I dont care about where PAF parks their aircraft, my worries about afghanistan is about repeat of IC 184 like episode close to 2024 elections. Let us be realistic, Israel was lucky during Operation Entebbe, one person with RPG can defeat an entire rescue operation. Today in the era of social media and growth of news channels, situation like IC 184 will create immense pressure on Government. I hope authorities took these type of situations into consideration.
 

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Can someone please explain the significance of the afghan terrorists meme if I have missed anything.
Concern is not about a Afghan terrorist who is worth nothing but about American Small Arms which are left over in Afghanistan, There is a possibility that already a significant cache of these weapons are with Taliban after raiding numerous bases. Possibility of these weapons being acquired by LET for some fidayeen missions cannot be ruled out. Lot of American bases have been evacuated in such a hasty situation that American soldiers didn't mind taking small arms with them when they abandoned the base.

example Battle of Kamdesh.

Americans conducted an airstrike after 24 hours to prevent the camp lethal weapons from falling into taliban hands. 24 hours was enough for Taliban and Al-qaeda to loot necessary lethal munitions which they considered effective.
 

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I dont care about where PAF parks their aircraft, my worries about afghanistan is about repeat of IC 184 like episode close to 2024 elections. Let us be realistic, Israel was lucky during Operation Entebbe, one person with RPG can defeat an entire rescue operation. Today in the era of social media and growth of news channels, situation like IC 184 will create immense pressure on Government. I hope authorities took these type of situations into consideration.
Let them create pressure. Action will be double on scale to relieve pressure.
 

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Thats not possible.. As long as most urban centers are not in taliban hands its ok. I dont know whats the fuss with terrorist camps in Afghanistan. Currently most terror camps are in Pakistan, and still there are no real sanctions on Pakistan. What difference will it make if these camps are shifted to Afghanistan.. As longs as Taliban does not capture a major urban center, with airports etc.. its fine.. If taliban captures airbases we might have another ic 814 like hijack. As Pakistan will have a place to park the aircraft.. or to park its fighter aircraft to avoid indian punishment during a war.
Ya... I Dont know about that man.... cause this just happened a few hours ago.. 😕

Aditya Raj Kaul on Twitter: "#BREAKING: More than 10 rockets fired in the Kabul city of Afghanistan. Some impact witnessed around the embassy area and the Green Zone. Office of the First Vice President @AmrullahSaleh2 also impacted in the rocket attack. More details on casualties/damage is still awaited. https://t.co/Cz4KQkyzLK" / Twitter
 

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Correct me if I am wrong. Ammunitions have an expiry date. Shouldn't we use all ammunitions close to expiry on LOC rather than discarding them. Let us keep LOC hotter and hotter till the time comes that there isn't difference left in war and peace. We have the advantage in capabilities. Pakis are already loose on money and international support. Let us just keep dominating them, killing them at will, conducting air strikes at will so that it becomes a norm rather than exception. We mustn't think in terms of wartime and peacetime now.
And let us advertise less. Let us make it business as usual.
 

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I have also problem with people thinking air fight as significant escalation. Our chaps are sacrificing their lives every month. Paki life is cheap, their death not even acknowledged.
Air fight is costly. Pakis don't have money. We keep on doing air strikes and do dogfights frequently. It will be a fight unsustainable for Pakis. They can keep shelling, shells are cheap. But air missiles aren't cheap for starving Pakis. This will also make us the most experienced air force in the world and we will be on top of our game. Let us utilize Paki air force as training material for our pilots.
Downing Paki jets should be undertaken as a peacetime activity. Like there is so much shelling going on in peacetime.
 
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