India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[Shashank Nayak]

except they consider it holy if their "ghazis" get "shahadat" on eid of any kind.
Notice how the biggest terror attacks used to or currently happen on this Eids worldwide?

I am cool.. either way... as long as there is a roasted dead circumci*ed p**is, at the end..

 

[FalconSlayers]

Yes ..I want war...gaand tod do porkiyon kee....itna bam maroo kee Lahore dhuan dhuan ho jaye...Islamabad ke chootiyon se item dance karvaya jaye..

Are you on PDF?
Guys pls we should all make an account on PDF for systematic propaganda busting in one go.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

No, this is not some big headline grabbing terror attack that may have electoral or consequences to your "image", so no, kuch na hoga, it is " Yet Another Day on the LOC : Diwali Special ".

You will only get karara jawab to PakChin gandmasti only if it has GoI's back to the wall, leaving only retaliation an option, otherwise it's turtling defensive behavior or no action at all

Soldiers die.. Get used to it.. As long as we kill many more of them, its ok.

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

Giving up Haji Pir or not capturing Bangladesh were political decisions. Esp capturing Bangladesh is a non starter argument as we only(Gandhi/Nehru gang) accepted partition and gave away Bangladesh as East Pakistan. And the whole war was fought to liberate Bangladeshi Mzlmz, not to rejoin them with India. So there is no question of looking it as a loss, as it was not the objective. Millitarily, it was a win along with the 93,000 soldiers surrendering in front of the World.
Perception wars matter to people who have trust issues with reality. They then look for validation in public perceptions. The whole argument of Moral victory of Congis come from same idea.
Since we lost the perception battle the next day to Balakot, can the perception be recovered now, as we have Paki parliamentarians accepting in public that Bajwa s legs were shaking, and if they did not return Abhinandan, India would have hit back with full force. Ex IAF chief also said that all three forces were fully ready, hands on trigger. So shld we believe them or say, oh but we still lost the perception battle.

You must understand that higher ups in pak establishment know about the value of perception and that is why they got angry at the parliamentarian.a paki is an Islamist and they hate losing face far more than the most extreme chunks and so we must target that in all ways.they are much more resilient in dealing with casualties due to their country set up but you take out one f16 and they lose there mind.there is a reason for this and it makes sense from pak army perspective and we must pressure these points .

 

[Brood Father]

Are you on PDF?
Guys pls we should all make an account on PDF for systematic propaganda busting in one go.

Na Bhai ...I was banned there ages ago , anyways it is a gutter so no point going there ..

 

[Roshan]

Giving up Haji Pir or not capturing Bangladesh were political decisions. Esp capturing Bangladesh is a non starter argument as we only(Gandhi/Nehru gang) accepted partition and gave away Bangladesh as East Pakistan. And the whole war was fought to liberate Bangladeshi Mzlmz, not to rejoin them with India. So there is no question of looking it as a loss, as it was not the objective. Millitarily, it was a win along with the 93,000 soldiers surrendering in front of the World.
Perception wars matter to people who have trust issues with reality. They then look for validation in public perceptions. The whole argument of Moral victory of Congis come from same idea.
Since we lost the perception battle the next day to Balakot, can the perception be recovered now, as we have Paki parliamentarians accepting in public that Bajwa s legs were shaking, and if they did not return Abhinandan, India would have hit back with full force. Ex IAF chief also said that all three forces were fully ready, hands on trigger. So shld we believe them or say, oh but we still lost the perception battle.

why do people say we should have assimilated bangladesh? they were then what they are now, an extremist shithole with a population that would have caused us even more problems than what our sulla population causes us now. it would have been quite the self goal to do that. otoh we showed what a failure the 2nt was within a quarter of a decade which was exactly our objective. that people have short memories is not our fault.

 

[ArgonPrime]

why do people say we should have assimilated bangladesh? they were then what they are now, an extremist shithole with a population that would have caused us even more problems than what our sulla population causes us now. it would have been quite the self goal to do that. otoh we showed what a failure the 2nt was within a quarter of a decade which was exactly our objective. that people have short memories is not our fault.

No one here said that we should have physically occupied the entirety of that shithole, rather what some of us had been suggesting was that our leaders should have ensured that the newly created B'desh becomes a mere vassal of India by placing a government in power that would dance to our tunes and broker for a chunk of land around the vulnerable Siliguri corridor.

 

[indus]

And here cometh the andh bhakt!! Why do you guys have to turn everything into a political debate??!! I mean where does even UPA come in the picture from?? We all know what they did and did not do and I believe I can speak for others that we do not need a reminder. Their inaction is what made the public kick them out into oblivion. But just because they didn't do nothing, does that mean we can not debate/analyze/criticize the actions of the present government??!! What the fuck kind of a shit-brained logic is that??!!

Their inaction was forgotten by public within six months, and were voted to power for a second term. My point is not about criticising Govt. Its about the endless perception battles which are fought by keyboard warriors on twitter

 

[Roshan]

No one here said that we should have physically occupied the entirety of that shithole, rather what some of us had been suggesting was that our leaders should have ensured that the newly created B'desh becomes a mere vassal of India by placing a government in power that would dance to our tunes and broker for a chunk of land around the vulnerable Siliguri corridor.

we can still circumvent that by making gorkhaland a ut. for much of the remaining part of the 20th century bangladesh maintained largely cordial relations with us out of gratitude if nothing else. the older generation from that place still speak to this, the younger ones have gotten radicalized.

 

[SavageKing456]

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[SavageKing456]

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4 killed,23 injured,let's assume that atleast 7 succumb to injuries and that takes toll to 11.

 

[shade]

Are you on PDF?
Guys pls we should all make an account on PDF for systematic propaganda busting in one go.

This is PDF and it's users, sure you want to go there?
In wrestling pigs, you yourself will also get drenched in filth.

 

[ArgonPrime]

Their inaction was forgotten by public within six months, and were voted to power for a second term.

I was speaking of the UPA 2, numbnuts!!

My point is not about criticising Govt.

You sure made it appear to be the contrary.

Its about the endless perception battles which are fought by keyboard warriors on twitter

Slugfest on Twitter by a bunch of nobodies is none of my damn concern and nor that of anyone else!! We are talking about international perception here. That what other nations think about us and in that regard, we failed to come out on top post-Balakot and It's largely due to the mishandling of the situation by the armed forces.
And besides, no one really criticized the government, we were commenting on the lack of response by the armed forces!! You were the one who clearly took it as an attack on the present GoI and started spewing your venom. The fact is, that politics has got nothing to do with it.

It's about knowing thy enemy. What do our enemies fear the most - it's the loss of face. They can handle the loss of lives just fine due to their mindset and the level of brainwash they receive from early childhood, this should become quite obvious by now. But by thrashing them in the perception battle, we can make them desperate, and break their resolve.

 

[ArgonPrime]

@indus, ha bhai, tu hasta rahe. Waise bhi buddha ho chuka hai, toh sathiya gaya hain tu thora sa.

 

[indus]

I was speaking of the UPA 2, numbnuts!!

The point was about inaction on 26/11, on which you said UPA was kicked out into oblivion, which is untrue. Lastly, In 2014 UPA2 was not kicked out due to inaction on Pakistan. Wrong here.

And besides, no one really criticized the government, we were commenting on the lack of response by the armed forces!! You were the one who clearly took it as an attack on the present GoI and started spewing your venom. The fact is, that politics has got nothing to do with it.

Wrong here. You first whined why cant we criticise present Govt on which I have no disagreement, neither have I taken it as an attack on it.

We are talking about international perception here. That what other nations think about us and in that regard, we failed to come out on top post-Balakot and It's largely due to the mishandling of the situation by the armed forces.
It's about knowing thy enemy. What do our enemies fear the most - it's the loss of face. They can handle the loss of lives just fine due to their mindset and the level of brainwash they receive from early childhood, this should become quite obvious by now. But by thrashing them in the perception battle, we can make them desperate, and break their resolve.

International perception. Now thats something new. By the support India got from EU, USA, Russia etc afai remember international perception was largely on our side. The fact that we indeed came out on top post Balakot has been extensively discussed in 2019 itself. When thrashing is delivered in the form of Spice bombs in the real, who th fcuk cares for the perception battles.

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

That's why they have no respect anywhere in world... IA is accountable to its citizens every action of IA is looked upon with pride by responsible citizens of the country they're defending.
Pork army has a country they can do anything to save their asssesss... No accountability

Then destroy pak army credibility,whatever they have left,by showing these casualties.equip our units of all kinds with mean to record events and release them officially.

One thing that Pakis tell is truth is that pakistan is currently bound together by its army as an institution and islam.the other institutions are not revered and also there is limitation on how much credibility islam can lose due to pakistans setup.

However the former armies credibility can be severely reduced like this.

Pak army cares more about 100 soldiers killed with graphic video evidence rather than 10000 soldiers and terrorists killed and buried in silence.same goes for navy and airforce.

Understand the psychology of the enemy.

What happens when the only institution holding pak together unravels,pak becomes much more unstable and easier to break apart.the islam is only informal and much more imperfect glue and can be dealt with.we can then carry out our strategic objectives with much more freedom.

 

[indus]

@indus, ha bhai, tu hasta rahe. Waise bhi buddha ho chuka hai, toh sathiya gaya hain tu thora sa.

 

[ArgonPrime]

The point was about inaction on 26/11, on which you said UPA was kicked out into oblivion, which is untrue.

No, the point remains that it was you who gave this debate a political color!! You are the one who brought your UPA stuff into this, not I.
And I never mentioned anything about 26/11.

Lastly, In 2014 UPA2 was not kicked out due to inaction on Pakistan. Wrong here.

Are you a psychic?? How could you possibly know what had been going on in the minds of hundreds of millions of people all over the nation??!! Now, no one in their right mind would kick out a government solely based upon their action (or the lack thereof) against another country but it certainly played a major role in their demise along with their shitty economic policies. You may twist and bend the facts all you want to, won't matter a damn.

Wrong here. You first whined why cant we criticise present Govt on which I have no disagreement, neither have I taken it as an attack on it.

Like I said, sathiya gaye ho aap. Dude, you're literally the one who brought politics into this whole debate where we were clearly criticizing the mishandling of the situation by the top honchos of our armed forces and how they failed to build up their narrative and basically gave the Pakistanis a free hand and they were not foolish enough to let this opportunity to pass them by.

But you clearly took it as an insult and an attack upon the NDA-led government and lashed out and you did it in such an obvious way that even a complete moron would catch on that. You may keep denying it to your heart's content but you ain't fooling nobody here, m8.

International perception. Now thats something new. By the support India got from EU, USA, Russia etc afai remember international perception was largely on our side.

Perhaps we live in two different worlds.

The fact that we indeed came out on top post Balakot has been extensively discussed in 2019 itself. When thrashing is delivered in the form of Spice bombs in the real, who th fcuk cares for the perception battles.

Your adversary does you effing imbecile!!

 

[ArgonPrime]

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As I said, you're old. Who the fuck even cares about fucking Socrates??!! The dude died more than two millennia ago, gare murde kaheko ukhaad rahe ho.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

So Brother but I don't agree with your opinion that we should not report our casualties. What will happen, and till how many times we will keep that secret? How bad the Family members of martyrs will feel that their loved one who sacrificed for India we're not even acknowledged. What is happening in PA today are you seeing that? They know that even if they are killed by IA, their deaths will be not considered as Martyrdom and their bodies will be placed below earth surreptitiously. The family members of PA Jawans are crying as to how their loved one we're buried without official recognition. They are questioning PA whenever the soldiers are killed? Do you think that world can't see them Hiding their Casualties?? NYTimes Reported even during Kargil that dead PA soldiers who were unclaimed were buried by IA. Even Chinese were questioning their government when they were killed during Ladakh standoff as to why we are not releasing our Marty soldiers numbers. These things impact psychology of the soldiers. Our soldiers are confident asto even if they are martyrd and their own family forgets them, IA will not forget them. And they should be confident for it even in future!!!

I want ask you brother why do you call these pakjabi jihadi Terrorists as martyrs? and second of all I have never seen family members of porkis who were eliminated by India crying for Recognition or acknowledgment. In there SM Posts they always talk about how proud they are that there Son or Husband died defending there country and died fighting Hindu Kaffirs in way of Jihad and Ghazwa-E-Hind and also they sometimes boast about killing Indian soldiers. Most Indians just see Porki jihadi civilians through the eyes of how Indian civilians would feel but they are both two different People and taught two different ideologies since birth and comes from two different circumstances.

Porki Army always either hides there casualties or out right downplays them. brainwashed porki civilian jihaadis will eat up this crap without a second thought and mind there own way. Porki Army is revered more than puppet government of Imrandi khan in porkistan unlike in India were civilian government takes precedence. What the porki army says is the truth to them. So when they say we only have one death and Indians have 6 deaths as reported by Indian Media the porkis will off course believe there Army and call what ever India Says as Indian Propaganda even if it is the truth.