India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

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But We didn’t gain much from these wars. We gave everything back to jihaadis like good little sickular state. Again Sparing there life and giving everything back has only reinforced in there mind that they have won against India and that’s why they keeping barking about 1947 and 1965. If India had done complete destruction on the Porkis they would have never stood up to us.
Agree, but that s the reality part. There are posters here who keep whining about winning perception wars. Agree that propaganda has a part to play. But its usually done to mobilize public opinion towards and incoming war, forms a narrative that war is necessary so that public gears up mentally, emotionally for the human/economic sacrifice any war requires. But apart from that is it necessary to win perception wars all the time? When Govts take action its the action itself that shows its intentions which shld be sufficient to form a positive perception in public. Otherwise inaction or status quo is the safest way forward. For example, post the 26/11 Mumbai attacks what did the UPA Govt do. Zilch. Were they not worried about winning elections or perception wars. Infact they tried to justify their inaction. The Hindu terror bogey is a separate issue here. So when Govt decides to take punitive action against the enemy in return for an attack such as Uri or Pulwama the action itself speaks for itself. There is no further perception to be built. What if similar to UPA Govt, Modi Govt too had gone for doasier diplomacy, endless talks etc after Uri or Pulwama. Then he would have surely needed a lot of perception battles to be won.
 

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Alert: Pakistani ISPR bots are trying to pass a photoshopped image, in which they merged a screenshot of footage of Indian Army strike on Pak posts today with the caption of a Syrian war video from YT. Will give them 2/10 for the effort. Link to YT vid: https://youtu.be/EbptHVOI54k
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Yes I watched the whole video, I am banned on PDF so please guyz someone go and bang hard those propaganda spreaders in their homes if anyone of you are in PDF. I’m sharing link.
 

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We can use apaches from a stand off range and take care of Pakis like the easy meat jihadis they are , escalation has to go up now only
 

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We can use apaches from a stand off range and take care of Pakis like the easy meat jihadis they are , escalation has to go up now only
Indian Army opted for horizontal escalation today instead of vertical.
 

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Talk about being sore losers. For fuck's sake, grow a spine and learn to take it on the chin, like we do!!
For domestic and diaspora consoomption the illusion of competent PakFauj and immortal ghazi sepoys have to be maintained.

The Porki awaam knows and tolerates their top brass pizza and ice cream antics because they are seen as the only defence against India.

Now if casualtys and names of the dead troops are put out everytime, the Paki awaam will know that their incompetent army is getting thrashed by the hendu baniya.

The next question along this chain is then, why tolerate an organization that only mooches national wealth and is extremely bad at doing its one critical job?

Why shouldn’t then this Westernized organization be overthrown and replaced with an Emirate following the Sharia kanoon in the Quran Sharif?
 

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LOL, how weak are these ssg commando, they keep dying in every normal cross border firing!!
Jokes aside, you could chalk this up to sheer bad luck, just like we'd lost 5 Para SF operators when an overhang collapsed under their weight and they fell right into the group of hiding terrorists they had been sent to hunt down.
 

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Agree, but that s the reality part. There are posters here who keep whining about winning perception wars. Agree that propaganda has a part to play. But its usually done to mobilize public opinion towards and incoming war, forms a narrative that war is necessary so that public gears up mentally, emotionally for the human/economic sacrifice any war requires. But apart from that is it necessary to win perception wars all the time? When Govts take action its the action itself that shows its intentions which shld be sufficient to form a positive perception in public. Otherwise inaction or status quo is the safest way forward. For example, post the 26/11 Mumbai attacks what did the UPA Govt do. Zilch. Were they not worried about winning elections or perception wars. Infact they tried to justify their inaction. The Hindu terror bogey is a separate issue here. So when Govt decides to take punitive action against the enemy in return for an attack such as Uri or Pulwama the action itself speaks for itself. There is no further perception to be built. What if similar to UPA Govt, Modi Govt too had gone for doasier diplomacy, endless talks etc after Uri or Pulwama. Then he would have surely needed a lot of perception battles to be won.
And here cometh the andh bhakt!! Why do you guys have to turn everything into a political debate??!! I mean where does even UPA come in the picture from?? We all know what they did and did not do and I believe I can speak for others that we do not need a reminder. Their inaction is what made the public kick them out into oblivion. But just because they didn't do nothing, does that mean we can not debate/analyze/criticize the actions of the present government??!! What the fuck kind of a shit-brained logic is that??!!
 

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For domestic and diaspora consoomption the illusion of competent PakFauj and immortal ghazi sepoys have to be maintained.

The Porki awaam knows and tolerates their top brass pizza and ice cream antics because they are seen as the only defence against India.

Now if casualtys and names of the dead troops are put out everytime, the Paki awaam will know that their incompetent army is getting thrashed by the hendu baniya.

The next question along this chain is then, why tolerate an organization that only mooches national wealth and is extremely bad at doing its one critical job?

Why shouldn’t then this Westernized organization be overthrown and replaced with an Emirate following the Sharia kanoon in the Quran Sharif?
To add to this, even if really 4 trees and 1 crow died and Verappan didn't shoot an F16 and still tasted fine Pindi chai, would the hindoos riot and "protest" in the streets to avenge this humiliation inflicted on them by the Muslims? Nope, in a month positive or negative both would be forgotten, the hindoo has short term memory.

Meanwhile If they openly admitted that their Jihadi training madarsa was bombed, while their PAF hawabaaz were sleeping AND on top of that their F16 got shot by some hindoo in a museum grade MiG 21, all hell would have broken lose on the streets of Pakistan to avenge this humiliation by the hindoos by demanding that the PakFauj wage a full scale war on Kaffiristan.

Now you, with your posh gated communities in Lahore, Karachi, Pindi and Islamabad, you with your ice cream, pizza and underwear selling chains, why would you be willing to wage war against a country against which you have lost 4 times continuously?

Now to avert this possibility of religious fury or religously powered demand for war by the awam upon you, wouldn't your organization cover up all casualties, and pay massive sums to Western media houses and assorted gora( gora == credible, remember ) analysts and "experts" to spin your national humiliation as if nothing happened at all?
 

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Any chance of the govt escalating this.
No, this is not some big headline grabbing terror attack that may have electoral or consequences to your "image", so no, kuch na hoga, it is " Yet Another Day on the LOC : Diwali Special ".

You will only get karara jawab to PakChin gandmasti only if it has GoI's back to the wall, leaving only retaliation an option, otherwise it's turtling defensive behavior or no action at all
 
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