India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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I will also end with a comment where I think you may agree somewhat.

Yes. Yes, it is a double standard.

But IMO, there is no need to be a moral warrior. We need to balance our strategic needs with military necessity. Unless there is absolute necessity, we should not do anything that can ruin our long-term developmental and military strategy. But if we reach a point where we are militarily and economically powerful enough to disregard these countries, and if some necessary military need arises, then yes, we can and should validate our nuclear capabilities.
Well, I don't find anything to contest here.
Hope we develop soon as an nation which can resist economic pressure.
An strong and diversified economy making high quality products and possessing an technologically independent Military Industrial Complex should give us the confidence to negate any blackmail by the Big Powers.
 

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@Tridev123 I'm not against further nuclear testing . I just want it to happen in the Ocean .. as in halfway to Antarctica .. This will have to be very covert and supported by a cover story . Or USN ships may interfere.
And it should happen at a time when international conditions are more favourable.
There is no place in India where a 1 megaton surface explosion wont spread contamination to 1 million pop urban centre leave alone thousands of smaller settlements everywhere. Also the USA only tested its megaton yield weapons in bikini atoll.
 

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This news first appeared on 2021 during an investiture ceremony of BSF.

This is a pre 2020 video, cant say the exact year.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...mandos-from-pak-army/articleshow/59288978.cms
found this, but article says maratha LI , camera recovered , 2 terrorist body recovered.
Yea the article seems to be it the video was released in 2021 so nobody knew who it was in 2017 hence probably put maratha light infantry there but wish we didn't have won't show NSFW policy mfs getting smoked would be a great sight
 

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@Tridev123 I'm not against further nuclear testing . I just want it to happen in the Ocean .. as in halfway to Antarctica .. This will have to be very covert and supported by a cover story . Or USN ships may interfere.
And it should happen at a time when international conditions are more favourable.
There is no place in India where a 1 megaton surface explosion wont spread contamination to 1 million pop urban centre leave alone thousands of smaller settlements everywhere. Also the USA only tested its megaton yield weapons in bikini atoll.
I know its not an easy decision. There will be costs imposed on India by the United States.

But is waiting indefinitely for the ideal geopolitical situation to emerge an very wise decision. The Ukraine conflict has tied Washington's hands to a certain extent. The US needs friends to support its Ukraine intervention. And the Chinese are bringing immense pressure on the Indo - China border by their infrastructure build up. They seek to change the balance of power on the border by rapid force accretion.

As far as the search for a suitable location to test an 1 megaton bomb is concerned, I would like our nuclear scientists from BARC or DAE to offer their opinion.
Let them decide if Pokhran or any other lowly populated place in Rajasthan is suitable or not. Whether the seismic effects can be controlled or the radiation fallout can be contained in a smaller area.

Let the experts decide. How can you and I decide.
Have the BARC scientists gone public and categorically said that they cannot test a Megaton device in Pokhran or elsewhere. Because the radioactive fallout cannot be controlled.

Taking your line of thought I believe that there are unpopulated islands in the Andaman and Nicobar chain of islands. Maybe some island big enough to absorb the explosion impact can be found.
This again is conjecture. The final decision should be taken by the experts after considering all the variables.

Carrying out an mid ocean Megaton test will not be practical. If you have thought out the entire exercise please share the details of how you would accomplish it.

Let's not decide on the suitability of a testing site by forum discussions. We are no experts.

Have you specialised in nuclear science and radiation physics.
I have not.

If you are indeed an Department of Atomic Energy scientist please introduce yourself and your designation.
 

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I know its not an easy decision. There will be costs imposed on India by the United States.

But is waiting indefinitely for the ideal geopolitical situation to emerge an very wise decision. The Ukraine conflict has tied Washington's hands to a certain extent. The US needs friends to support its Ukraine intervention. And the Chinese are bringing immense pressure on the Indo - China border by their infrastructure build up. They seek to change the balance of power on the border by rapid force accretion.

As far as the search for a suitable location to test an 1 megaton bomb is concerned, I would like our nuclear scientists from BARC or DAE to offer their opinion.
Let them decide if Pokhran or any other lowly populated place in Rajasthan is suitable or not. Whether the seismic effects can be controlled or the radiation fallout can be contained in a smaller area.

Let the experts decide. How can you and I decide.
Have the BARC scientists gone public and categorically said that they cannot test a Megaton device in Pokhran or elsewhere. Because the radioactive fallout cannot be controlled.

Taking your line of thought I believe that there are unpopulated islands in the Andaman and Nicobar chain of islands. Maybe some island big enough to absorb the explosion impact can be found.
This again is conjecture. The final decision should be taken by the experts after considering all the variables.

Carrying out an mid ocean Megaton test will not be practical. If you have thought out the entire exercise please share the details of how you would accomplish it.

Let's not decide on the suitability of a testing site by forum discussions. We are no experts.

Have you specialised in nuclear science and radiation physics.
I have not.

If you are indeed an Department of Atomic Energy scientist please introduce yourself and your designation.
Err .. it ain't hard to calculate fallout from the yield of a nuke . Also these are for testing so it's entirely possible that the blast yield would be more than anticipated (it has happened before). We are a very densely populated country . There is no place with that level of desolation where megaton yield weapons can be used . And this not something that can be left just to BARC or experts . A megaton yield explosion would mean irradiating an area the size of NCR which is literally impossible for any govt to do.
 

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