India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[FalconSlayers]

Congrats to all agencies, lets distribute sweets together on new year!

 

[NutCracker]

Don't know why I have this feeling... maybe overdose of Hollywood... that atleast some of the Paki army personnel who are declared killed in Balochistan/KPK etc. are only on paper... they are becoming alive in Kashmir. You know what I mean... for deniability reasons.

Doesnt make any sense.
What deniability ?? Most of the time we get access of the porky deadbodies , so we can ID them , even easier if our OGW in porkiland could find him in their NADRA database.

 

[RocketMan]

As long as PoK is safe , Kashmir won't be !

 

[another_armchair]

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The sooner they plug the gap, the better or else...

 

[FalconSlayers]

Speechless

 

[ezsasa]

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The sooner they plug the gap, the better or else...

no matter how much is done on this side of LoC, as long as intent of paki establishment does not change, varying degree of threat is going to remain.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Speechless

And then knee gars will come and say "vro Indien Army brutality vro".

We needed to lockdown the entire village for 3 months without electricity and internet, and give them PAPA2 treatment to OGWs. Kashmiris has started thinking we are weak hindu baniyas because we are sucking up to them with tourism, economic & infrastructure development.

And if you are doing all these, don't let information leak & don't put these things on internet.

 

[vidhwanshak]

Speechless

read few tweets that all 8 have succumbed.
can anyone verify ?

 

[Jimih]

And then knee gars will come and say "vro Indien Army brutality vro".

We needed to lockdown the entire village for 3 months without electricity and internet, and give them PAPA2 treatment to OGWs.

These knee gars are the same bloody DFI's 'Gucci Gear Gang walas' who crap the Special Forces thread on daily basis. Now they have started crapping this thread also.

See how quickly the anguish over mutilated bodies of our troops transformed to anguish over some OGW ("innocent civies" in their view) getting "killed" in Army custody.

Benchod they want to preach "discipline" to the Indian Army.

In real life on hearing shots of gunfire they will be the first ones to wet their pants and faint on the streets.

 

[mcpo117]

Speechless

both army brass and govt is responsible for this. never should've happened if they used fu*king armored vehicles.

 

[Master Chief]

Maybe the BSF constable is happy because he had a property dispute with his brother allegedly killed by the army. I say this should send message to villagers not to eff around with militants, against Indian army. Indian army will get them too and it wouldn't be nice to start with.

Brother's wife is getting 30 lakh, government land and government job... BSF brother won't be too happy.. Unless of course the plan is to marry dead brother's wife ..

 

[mist_consecutive]

Noor Ahmed, the BSF Head Constable, whose brother Safeer was one of the three civilians who died, said the family came to know about the death through a phone call by a DySP level police officer Friday evening. He claimed his brother had been working for various agencies (involved in counter insurgency operations). “When my brother lay buried in his grave leaving behind his widow and three minor children, my 82-year-old father Mir Hussain and mother Jainab Bi, 78, are in coma-like condition,” he said.

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Literally every fucking news channel is picking this story up. Morons you are helping Pakistan & Jihadis.

Army personnel must not be prosecuted for teaching OGWs necessary lessons, and if GoI forces this, Army should decide to pull out from Jammu & let the so-called Home Minister's chowkidaars CRPF & BSF handle this mess.

 

[ezsasa]

both army brass and govt is responsible for this. never should've happened if they used fu*king armored vehicles.

you do realise that, the above mentioned sentiment is exactly what paki were aiming for, and you are giving it to them on a platter.

 

[mist_consecutive]

both army brass and govt is responsible for this. never should've happened if they used fu*king armored vehicles.

This would have happened anyway. See the pattern.

1. Compromised informers / villagers pass wrong information to Police / Army, possibly under colluison with militants.
2. Army reaches the area for investigation / cordon.
3. Militants waiting for Army from vantage points & ambush attack & cause casaulties, then run away to forests/caves. Villagers keep on supplying militants with information & supplies.

How do yo plug the gap ?

• Assume HUMINT is possibly compromised.
• Make informers pay brutal price for wrong information. (Happening)

 

[mcpo117]

This would have happened anyway. See the pattern.

1. Compromised informers / villagers pass wrong information to Police / Army, possibly under colluison with militants.
2. Army reaches the area for investigation / cordon.
3. Militants waiting for Army from vantage points & ambush attack & cause casaulties, then run away to forests/caves. Villagers keep on supplying militants with information & supplies.

How do yo plug the gap ?

• Assume HUMINT is possibly compromised.
• Make informers pay brutal price for wrong information. (Happening)

so the border guard's bro was either part of the problem or collateral?

 

[Master Chief]

This would have happened anyway. See the pattern.

1. Compromised informers / villagers pass wrong information to Police / Army, possibly under colluison with militants.
2. Army reaches the area for investigation / cordon.
3. Militants waiting for Army from vantage points & ambush attack & cause casaulties, then run away to forests/caves. Villagers keep on supplying militants with information & supplies.

How do yo plug the gap ?

• Assume HUMINT is possibly compromised.
• Make informers pay brutal price for wrong information. (Happening)

I think the killing of informers.. the release of mirchi videos.. and hefty compensation to next of kin.. were all planned together ... to slap these OGWs and send a message.. and then apply some balm on their battered a**

 

[another_armchair]

no matter how much is done on this side of LoC, as long as intent of paki establishment does not change, varying degree of threat is going to remain.

Pak establishment will look to exploit the weakest links in the chain.

Poonch and Rajouri have been the weak links since 2020 because of troops being shifted to LoC and some of those remaining or their replacements have capability/quality issues.

What we need is boots on the ground to fill the vacuum - whether its CAPFs or Army, we need policing on the ground to limit free movement of terrorists and villagers being bullied into providing food & shelter on demand.

A villager in a remote village will bow his head to whoever shows up at his doorstep with a gun - Terrorist or Cop. Indian Govt. (central/state) have to ensure it is a cop and not a terrorist.

Pakis being Pakis will do Paki things. Their policy of 'bleed India with a 1000 cuts' will remain for as long as they exist as a nation.

Just because there are no thefts in my area, I won't start removing my front door & window grills. Once an vulnerable opening appears, it will be exploited - by man or animal.

Securing our home has to be our topmost priority.

We trusted the Chinese and took the Russian word for granted. What happened? We had between 150-200 troopers of ITBP and IA with varying degrees of injuries caused during skirmishes with Chinese troops in the run up to Galwan.

Deterrence can only do so much. Paki nukes did not stop us from bombing Balakot. Our nuke arsenal and conventional military superiority over Pak did not stop PAF from carrying out attacks on the morning of 27th Feb.

While 100% security is a mirage, we have to stamp our authority in every possible way on the ground over which we lay our claim.

There was a time when PWG ran merry in AP. If we did nothing and kept blaming China, Pak and EU leftists for it, we would've lost a good deal of south & central India to maoists by now.

 

[Master Chief]

so the border guard's bro was either part of the problem or collateral?

Maybe double agent.. looks like he knew a lot about security forces and was compromised and working for Pakis..

 

[notaname]

This would have happened anyway. See the pattern.

1. Compromised informers / villagers pass wrong information to Police / Army, possibly under colluison with militants.
2. Army reaches the area for investigation / cordon.
3. Militants waiting for Army from vantage points & ambush attack & cause casaulties, then run away to forests/caves. Villagers keep on supplying militants with information & supplies.

How do yo plug the gap ?

• Assume HUMINT is possibly compromised.
• Make informers pay brutal price for wrong information. (Happening)

And one more thing to add, If your brother or any family member is in Army or any other government job the family members don't get right to work against the country, people here assume army is wrong and terrorists are right each and everytime something like this happens.

If we start thinking, oh his brother/uncle/grandfather or anyone is in army then their family members will never go against the country then we better be ready to shed the blood now and then, and have a big heart to take in the blood which flows after that or else take the fight where it needs to be and do what needs to be done.

 

[Cheepek]

Ye Jaish waalo ki bhi to families hongi na Pakistan mai. Is it that hard to get family info of those who are culled here?