India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

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Civilians leaders are coward especially the guys in our foreign ministry. We rarely had brave men in our civilian offices.
It's like Light and darkness, it's an interplay between the two.
system wouldn't prosper if civilian bureaucracy started thinking like military or military started thinking like civilian bureaucracy. Let them negotiate with each other, and may the best plan/approach win.
we are seeing in pakiland next door, what happens when military gets extra ordinary powers over civilian establishment.

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It's like Light and darkness, it's an interplay between the two.
system wouldn't prosper if civilian bureaucracy started thinking like military or military started thinking like civilian bureaucracy. Let them negotiate with each other, and may the best plan/approach win.
we are seeing in pakiland next door, what happens when military gets extra ordinary powers over civilian establishment.

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This is dilusional .. How they think Pakistan ll be able to have same global standing as that of India .. This mentality has destroyed their nation . Just to punish India and overcome their coventional capability they invented that proxy war doctrine and now it is hunting them . Bangladesh is a example which got out of this vicious cycle in 1971 and they have improved a lot .. Though there are some worrying signs there as well .

Pakistan GDP wld have been same as Turkey given their strategic location if route they took starting with 1965 war and millitarism was reversed .
 

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This is dilusional .. How they think Pakistan ll be able to have same global standing as that of India .. This mentality has destroyed their nation . Just to punish India and overcome their coventional capability they invented that proxy war doctrine and now it is hunting them . Bangladesh is a example which got out of this vicious cycle in 1971 and they have improved a lot .. Though there are some worrying signs there as well .

Pakistan GDP wld have been same as Turkey given their strategic location if route they took starting with 1965 war and millitarism was reversed .
That's why the video was originally posted in idiotic musings. :pound:
 

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This is dilusional .. How they think Pakistan ll be able to have same global standing as that of India .. This mentality has destroyed their nation . Just to punish India and overcome their coventional capability they invented that proxy war doctrine and now it is hunting them . Bangladesh is a example which got out of this vicious cycle in 1971 and they have improved a lot .. Though there are some worrying signs there as well .

Pakistan GDP wld have been same as Turkey given their strategic location if route they took starting with 1965 war and millitarism was reversed .
This is something i wrote in april, pakiland is still on the same path.

this will go on for some time, don’t hold your breath.

These moves are being made to fill a perceived political vaccum, because Niazi is going hard against his primary political opponents Nawaz sharif and Bhutto family.

Islamic right wing parties see an opportunity, and want to grab the opposition space.

paki analysts might argue, Islamist parties don’t get votes anyways so won’t matter much. sure Islamist parties won’t get vote share traditionally, but mainstream paki parties will have to make political promises on par with Islamist right wing parties so as to not loose their vote share.

High possibility that entire political spectrum is about to move towards hardline Islamist agenda in Pakistan in medium term.
 

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This is dilusional .. How they think Pakistan ll be able to have same global standing as that of India .. This mentality has destroyed their nation . Just to punish India and overcome their coventional capability they invented that proxy war doctrine and now it is hunting them . Bangladesh is a example which got out of this vicious cycle in 1971 and they have improved a lot .. Though there are some worrying signs there as well .

Pakistan GDP wld have been same as Turkey given their strategic location if route they took starting with 1965 war and millitarism was reversed .
It's interesting because if you think about it, only pakis are to be blamed for their own situation, not a surprise but,
>this is the same state which has pursued terrorism as state policy and openly encouraged the Islamists but also kept on hold of it in a way but that it's like a volcano, sooner or later it would have erupted anyway. For now, TLP is nothing but paki army's proxy for their internal politics/control. For a normal nation pakis are Islamist as a whole filled with jihadis but for the jihadis living in Pakistan that country is still an enemy of Islam for siding with 'jews' and 'usa'.

>their international standing, this as you mentioned is fucking delusional if they think they can match India. The fact that they try so hard and to the point of becoming enraged if India doesn't give them attention. They know that they don't have any mai baap other than China and it's only due to their self-destructive approach towards one-upping India, trying to burn their own house hoping that the flames will affect us and then they act surprised when the whole house is getting reduced to ashes while we are unscathed.

Other than pettiness over Kashmir, India has moved on from the pakis. One of the successes of NDA government and silver lining of recent conflict with china has shown that normal indian even on SM hardly cares for what pakis do or think.

And when you think about it in a way, congressis though were corrupt dipshits but they were very smart corrupt dipshits. Their neutrality policy, pursuing multiple relationships all at once and then Modi going on overdrive with his tours on international level has paved the way for much better standing internationally for India. It's not over because a platform is now created over which deal needs to be realised.

I am looking forward to the deal with EU, UK and France. With UK especially because under Boris relationship between the two country have been in upward trends. France will remain our key partner along with Israel too. EU is a bit tricky and will require a issues that needs to be tackled but it will be worth it.

USA and India relationships are going to deepen further while we will try to ensure some degree of cooperation with Ruskies, even with all the reasons Russia wouldn't want to side with China completely so i am not really worried.

And the fact is that we can actually do this because of our rising economy, consumer base and size of the country itself which ensures possibilities for co-operation with all sorts of nations.

Also, work with Japan related to infra is one of the best things and maybe in future some higher degree of military cooperation in SCS and regional nations will ensure that we are actually significantly improving our international standing.
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It's interesting because if you think about it, only pakis are to be blamed for their own situation, not a surprise but,
>this is the same state which has pursued terrorism as state policy and openly encouraged the Islamists but also kept on hold of it in a way but that it's like a volcano, sooner or later it would have erupted anyway. For now, TLP is nothing but paki army's proxy for their internal politics/control. For a normal nation pakis are Islamist as a whole filled with jihadis but for the jihadis living in Pakistan that country is still an enemy of Islam for siding with 'jews' and 'usa'.

>their international standing, this as you mentioned is fucking delusional if they think they can match India. The fact that they try so hard and to the point of becoming enraged if India doesn't give them attention. They know that they don't have any mai baap other than China and it's only due to their self-destructive approach towards one-upping India, trying to burn their own house hoping that the flames will affect us and then they act surprised when the whole house is getting reduced to ashes while we are unscathed.

Other than pettiness over Kashmir, India has moved on from the pakis. One of the successes of NDA government and silver lining of recent conflict with china has shown that normal indian even on SM hardly cares for what pakis do or think.

And when you think about it in a way, congressis though were corrupt dipshits but they were very smart corrupt dipshits. Their neutrality policy, pursuing multiple relationships all at once and then Modi going on overdrive with his tours on international level has paved the way for much better standing internationally for India. It's not over because a platform is now created over which deal needs to be realised.

I am looking forward to the deal with EU, UK and France. With UK especially because under Boris relationship between the two country have been in upward trends. France will remain our key partner along with Israel too. EU is a bit tricky and will require a issues that needs to be tackled but it will be worth it.

USA and India relationships are going to deepen further while we will try to ensure some degree of cooperation with Ruskies, even with all the reasons Russia wouldn't want to side with China completely so i am not really worried.

And the fact is that we can actually do this because of our rising economy, consumer base and size of the country itself which ensures possibilities for co-operation with all sorts of nations.

Also, work with Japan related to infra is one of the best things and maybe in future some higher degree of military cooperation in SCS and regional nations will ensure that we are actually significantly improving our international standing.
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This is dilusional .. How they think Pakistan ll be able to have same global standing as that of India .. This mentality has destroyed their nation . Just to punish India and overcome their coventional capability they invented that proxy war doctrine and now it is hunting them . Bangladesh is a example which got out of this vicious cycle in 1971 and they have improved a lot .. Though there are some worrying signs there as well .

Pakistan GDP wld have been same as Turkey given their strategic location if route they took starting with 1965 war and millitarism was reversed .
Porkis thinks their ancestors were mughal who ruled india.
So they belong to ruling class of India who ruled over baniya for 1000 years.
For a porki firstly he is a Muslim then he is porkistani.
For them Muslim identity is the key over their regional identity.
Islam is key of unifying their diverse population of Punjabi, afghans, baloch, sindhi, etc.
 

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ONE MORE THING THAT THIS SO CALLED VETERAN PRAVIN IS NOT CONSIDERING:

CAN PAKIS AFFORD THE WAR?
One thing you forgot Pakistani are not rationale people. Obsessed with any anti India plan. So yes they will do whatever they can to fight us. May not be able to mobilise tank forces in large number,but infantry, artillery and airforce will be used against India.
Indian Navy western fleet will need to act fast to collapse the western front.
 

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One thing you forgot Pakistani are not rationale people. Obsessed with any anti India plan. So yes they will do whatever they can to fight us. May not be able to mobilise tank forces in large number,but infantry, artillery and airforce will be used against India.
Indian Navy western fleet will need to act fast to collapse the western front.
Chutiya inbred porkystani cannot afford anything let alone war just the fact that slaves have nothing to lose.
 

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One thing you forgot Pakistani are not rationale people. Obsessed with any anti India plan. So yes they will do whatever they can to fight us. May not be able to mobilise tank forces in large number,but infantry, artillery and airforce will be used against India.
Indian Navy western fleet will need to act fast to collapse the western front.
What I meant to say is that, If they go to war against India.... waha khaane ke laale pad jaaenge.
 

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What I meant to say is that, If they go to war against India.... waha khaane ke laale pad jaaenge.
In a situation where China is attacking and they pressing on western front, I don't think it will be that easy for us.

Chutiya inbred porkystani cannot afford anything let alone war just the fact that slaves have nothing to lose.
Never underestimate any of your adversary. Their ability to throw in lashkars is virtually unlimited.
 

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