India Pakistan conflict along IB and LoC (July 2021 onwards)

[Austin316]

As far as I know, PM was recieved much earlier than when this attack was underway.

I believe the encounter happened during the day

 

[Kumaoni]

I didnt mean air strikes. What's the use of ground to ground missiles, if one can not use them against a T camp situated on the other side of the LOC ? Genuine layman quetsion.
Let them escalate it to air strikes if they wish?

Just use ground missiles against another nuclear armed nation.

Given the circumstances, RAW has done well, and so has the army compared to how bad it was in the 90s/early 00s

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

https://x.com/ShivAroor/status/1702029212469633438?s=20

 

[shaktishivashakti]

Just use ground missiles against another nuclear armed nation.

That's what I meant, and I dont understand why GOI is so reluctant to it. Each time a T is identified as a paki, blow a camp inside POK (it's our territory anyway ;-) without formally crossing the LOC. There is enough space to handle this diplomatically if need be.

 

[another_armchair]

They were injured in the afternoon and the same information was shared by J&KP and the media.

Reports of their demise started appearing after 6 pm.

Why are multiple theories being peddled here just to show how insensitive PM and BJP are that they decided to carry on with their gala event? If you want to chastise them, do so. Why look for excuses?

 

[Kumaoni]

That's what I meant, and I dont understand why GOI is so reluctant to it. Each time a T is identified as a paki, blow a camp inside POK (it's our territory anyway ;-) without formally crossing the LOC. There is enough space to handle this diplomatically if need be.

I meant that sartastically.
You really want to play games with another nuclear armed nation?
What about sanctions?

 

[shaktishivashakti]

I meant that sartastically.
You really want to play games with another nuclear armed nation?
What about sanctions?

Ok I will leave it there...and casualties will continue, I guess, until Pak is bankrupt economically and dismantled, if there is no genuine military solution and that's not my field ;-) You are the pro not me !

 

[Nazaria e Bakistan]

Modi Arrived in BJP HQ on Wednesday (when? I do not know). His reception was planned on 6:30 PM (https://www.etvbharat.com/english/s...-g20-summit-success/na20230913142757739739778)

This incident was ongoing since Tuesday with forces following and tracking these terrorists (whom they suspected to be a small group of terrorists). it was sometimes during afternoon of Wednesday when they went to check the location they came under heavy fire from concealed terrorists.

Timing is too close to blame Modi or anyone. Who knows when he was intimated.

BTW, this is a clear case where having a recon drone in the sky would have helped. A UACV? Much better.

If only DRDO could stop dragging their feets.

 

[another_armchair]

One IA solider was missing from the encounter site.

Hope he is not being held hostage and the 'bad news' doing the rounds is not related to it.

 

[another_armchair]

IMAGE: Security personnel with a sniffer dog deployed as an encounter is underway between the security forces and terrorists, in the Narllah area of Rajouri, Jammu and Kashmir, September 13, 2023. Photograph: ANI Photo

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[another_armchair]

https://www.aninews.in/news/national/general-news/as-security-forces-step-up-efforts-terrorists-pushed-to-forested-areas-in-j-k20230913233108/

ANI | Updated: Sep 13, 2023 23:31 IST

Rajouri (Jammu and Kashmir) [India], September 13 (ANI): The Indian Army said on Wednesday that terrorists have been trying to move towards forested areas owing to high intensity of operations by the Indian Army, Paramilitary Forces (PMF) and the Jammu and Kashmir Police (JKP).
Based on intelligence inputs being received since the last operation on September 4, wherein one terrorist was neutralised, large-scale operations have been in progress in the region to keep the terrorists on the run.


Multiple columns from the Indian Army, JKP and PMF were mobilised to cover the areas where the sighting of terrorists was being informed by villagers. Braving inclement weather conditions and due to relentless domination, security forces continued to remain on the trail of the terrorists.
On September 7, input was received about two unidentified individuals with bags in the general area of Mathiyani Gala in Rajouri district. Based on this input domination plan and intelligence operations were launched jointly by the Indian Army, JKP and other intelligence agencies.
Sector Commander Brigadier Shomit Patnayak said, "On September 7, we got information about the terrorist movement and we launched an operation. We planned a joint operation and on September 11, we got a contact with them. They tried to run away in Jungle, Special forces were also deployed. On September 12 we started the operation and we used tracker dogs. Our army dog Kent and his handler were leading, we got a blood trail. At 15:15 a terrorist opened fire in which Kent and his handler got injured. We engaged them immediately. Our One Jawan Ravi Kumar and Kent lost their life and three were injured."


On September 11, two unidentified individuals with bags were again spotted by the patrol in the jungle at 1830 hours. The individuals on being challenged, taking advantage of poor visibility compounded with adverse weather conditions started running. On visual confirmation of weapon with them, own party fired on them and it is likely that one of them got injured. The joint cordon of the area was done along with JKP and night-enabled surveillance devices were pressed into service to deny any escape of the terrorists.

Early on 12 Sep 2023 during the search of the area, a bag left behind by the terrorists was found which contained Pakistan marking medicines among other things. Army Dog Kent was employed and the trail of the terrorists was followed for some distance. However, owing to rain and moisture, the trail was lost.
Parties continued in the general direction and after some distance, some blood was noticed. Army Dog Kent was again employed and she picked up this trail and the party started closing in. Seeing the party moving closer the terrorists hiding in the thick overgrowth opened fire at point-blank range at around 1515 hours. The initial fire hit Kent, her handler and another soldier covering the move.


The party continued to close in undeterred to prevent the terrorists from escaping. In the ensuing heavy firefight, displaying exceptional courage, the troops successfully neutralised one terrorist. Simultaneously, another party in close vicinity was also fired upon.
In the operation so far, Army Dog Kent was fatal, while three other soldiers and a Special Police Officer (SPO) were injured. The casualty evacuation of soldiers was done, however, since the terrorist fire was going on, the body of Kent could not be retrieved.
Later, one of the three soldiers succumbed to his injuries. The other two soldiers and a Police SPO were evacuated to the Military Hospital. As darkness set in and visibility started reducing with heavy rains, the cordon was again tightened to prevent the second terrorist from escaping. Firefight continued throughout the night to ensure terrorists do not get away.


On September 13 at around 1000 hours, the second terrorist was spotted and firefight commenced, during which another soldier was injured. Finally, at around 1130 hours, the second terrorist was neutralised.
Due to the thick undergrowth further move was done deliberately. In the operations, two likely foreign terrorists along with two AK Series Rifles and packs with administrative and logistic stores were recovered. (ANI)

 

[another_armchair]

Unacceptable if true that they took the bait like inexperienced teenagers.

 

[Kumaoni]

VJS is very reliable.

 

[Master Chief]

Because Americans also did the mistake of funding Pakistan taking their support and fighting the very terrorists their so-called ally was funding. Today Al-Qaeda is nothing, they make threats of attacks but never do so. Same for other organisations.

Terrorism can never fully end, I know that but saying "we have intel on trillions of terrorist launchpads in PoK" everyday and then doing zilch is what causes these attacks on our forces.

Problem isn't Salahuddin, it is the hundreds that gather around him. They need to be killed before they come here. And much more needs to be invested on fencing tech.

Yup.. Al qaeda.. and even Islamic State is now a largely empty shell...

 

[Master Chief]

Unacceptable if true that they took the bait like inexperienced teenagers.

Where are those DJI drones ? Anyway, it's pretty clear Army Brass doesn't care much for soldiers' life..

 

[another_armchair]

Where are those DJI drones ? Anyway, it's pretty clear Army Brass doesn't care much for soldiers' life..

No idea.

How long would it take a swarm of say 10 drones equipped with IR cameras/sensors to scan every square meter of say a 500x500 m forested grid?

 

[Javelin_Sam]

Unacceptable if true that they took the bait like inexperienced teenagers.

Just as I mentioned in my previous post. The rambo mentality of IA should be done away with. What's with this leading from the front bullshit and a Colonel barraging into an ambush with his men? A Colonel is too precious to be lost in such regular COIN ops. What the nation is losing is a man with decade plus experience. The company/platoon/squad commander is sufficient to lead from the front in regular coin ops like these.

 

[another_armchair]

When IAF could've saved scores of lives.

A soldiers life is cheap - a simple RIP, Om Shanti, a compensation cheque from the Govt., a plot or a petrol bunk if lucky and its business as usual.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

https://x.com/colhunnybakshi/status/1701990762282672445?s=20