India opens bids in $10.4-bn combat plane tender.

[Kunal Biswas]

Well lets assume that..

 

[nitesh]

There must be a reason why this is taking so long, I suspect that a lot of haggling and price reduction is on-going. Wait another six months before jumping to any conclusion

Quite possible, it was not a technical only deal from the beginning, I think lot of back channel dip0lomacy is going on. Interesting times

 

[weg]

Well lets assume that..

Really? how many deadlines/dates have been broken so far?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Really? how many deadlines/dates have been broken so far?

You have to read my words again..

 

[ashicjose]

i personally go for Rafael coz of its stealth and ground fighting capability.we hv su-30 for air superiority.please correct me if i am wrong.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

i personally go for Rafael coz of its stealth and ground fighting capability.we hv su-30 for air superiority.please correct me if i am wrong.

The SU-30MKI is a Heavy class Fighter

The MRCA are medium class Fighter


Both are Multi-role fighters..

 

[ashicjose]

But sir if we are planning 270 su 30 does we need more air superiority fighter.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

by the time the iaf will induct these mmrca fighter(2015 at the earliest)it will be obsolete(in terms of fourth generations fighters as it is already obsolete compared to f-22 or pakfa).and i fail to understand why the hell iaf is bent on getting a medium weight fighter when su-30mki is doing a much better job and will always be more capable.are they planning to carry it on soldier's back and launch it in the battlefield? if it would have been meant to operate from aircraft carrier then it is understandable but these will be land based fighters and as far as i know iaf bases have concrete runways.anyways i think the mmrca should be scrapped and we should induct more super su-30mki fighters-at least the iaf will not have to set up the logistics and maintainence chain once again.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

But sir if we are planning 270 su 30 does we need more air superiority fighter.

Its not Air-Superiority alone but as multirolers,

IAF is simply modernising itself by phasing out majority of MIG which are in light category, Nerveless IAF needed to be mordenise as we are facing two fronts.

 

[sayareakd]

SU 30 MKI is for long range, which means that every time the aircraft is in air, it take fuel, maintenance and lot of other things.

MRCA is 4.5g with different things then SU 30MKI, it is medium range, with its own advantages.

LCA is light version of the same for short distances.

All the three fighters are needed now. Late on 5G fighter as and when it arrives.

 

[arya]

i can sing only that one for MMRCA

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[Nagraj]

i have seen all the videos on you tube comparing these two

 

[JAISWAL]

EADS Snubs Last-Minute BAE Offer For Jet- Fighter Bid Role -


EADS Snubs Last-Minute BAE Offer For Jet-Fighter Bid Role - Source - WSJ.com

LONDON (Dow Jones)--European Aeronautic Defence & Space Co. (EAD.FR) has snubbed a last-minute approach by its Eurofighter Typhoon partner BAE Systems PLC (BA.LN) to become a joint prime bidder for an estimated $10-billion Indian air-force jet deal, a person familiar with the matter said.

India may shortly make a decision on replacing its ageing air arm with 126 new fighter jets. Dassault Aviation S.A.'s (AM.FR) Rafale fighter jet and the Eurofighter Typhoon are the two remaining aircraft in contention.

The person said that BAE Systems had approached EADS whose Germany-based Cassidian unit is a prime bidder.

EADS had been "flattered" but had "politely" declined to bring BAE into the bidding process at such a late stage, the person said. EADS had already taken the majority of the risk to get to the final stages of bidding and negotiating work-share terms, the person noted. EADS has determined the levels of production that could potentially be done within India itself. Levels of technology transfer and possible investment in the country, known as offset, are also part of the negotiations.

BAE Systems had no comment on the possibility of a joint-prime bid for the Indian contract but noted its role within the Eurofighter consortium.

"Bids for the Indian MMRCA (Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft) competition were submitted in the third quarter of 2011 supported by BAE Systems and the other Typhoon partners," a spokesman for the U.K. defense group said.

The Eurofighter consortium is made up of BAE Systems, Italy's Finmeccanica SPA (FNC.MI) and EADS. Different members of the consortium have taken the lead in bidding for possible contracts with government customers. Prime bidders can expect a larger share of the future benefits of a successful deal than other consortium partners.

BAE was the prime bidder for order with Japan but lost out in late December to Lockheed Martin Corp.'s (LMT) F-35 Lightning II Joint Striker Fighter. BAE Systems is also prime bidder for contracts in Malaysia and Qatar and has previously secured a Typhoon order from Saudi Arabia.

Earlier this year, the British company said it hadn't yet agreed with Saudi Arabia the next stage of the country's Typhoon order and that a "significant cash payment," which analysts estimated at GBP500 million, would be deferred until negotiations were completed. That raised concerns BAE wouldn't be able to meet a forecast of stable 2011 underlying earnings a share compared with the previous year.

Under the 126 Indian fighter-jet order, the first 18 jets will be bought in "fly-away" condition and the remainder will be produced with the selected vendor in India.

--Kaveri Niththyananthan, Dow Jones Newswires; 4420 7842 9299; [email protected]

 

[SpArK]

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/01/17/india-defence-deal-idINDEE80G05K20120117

 

[Yawn]

Finalists of MMRCA deal to meet Def Min officials tomorrow..

Spark that's the headline of a newsarticle which came out a week ago.

Finalists of MMRCA deal to meet Def Min officials tomorrow [newKerala.com News # 143057]

 

[Ray]

When actually will the bid be opened?

 

[nitesh]

Chief has spoken:

India may choose winner of fighter jet contract in 2 weeks - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: India may announce the lowest bidder for a contract worth about $10 billion to buy fighter jets for the country's airforce in the next two weeks, N A K Browne, chief of the Indian Air Force said.

 

[ganesh177]

yesterday it was 10 days, now its 2 weeks again.
I wont be surprised if it would go on for another year like this.

 

[Patriot]

Chief has spoken:

India may choose winner of fighter jet contract in 2 weeks - The Times of India

"I am hopeful that in another two weeks' time we will be able to shortlist the name," Browne told Reuters on the sidelines of an event.

Going by above statement & previously made ones, nobody seems to be having any clue about the exact date for the announcement. Everybody is guessing or making us feel so. Who knows the L1 have already been decided, it is just waiting for the final nod from MOD/PM/GOD MOTHER to announce after ensuring extra advantages.