There is not even 0.001% financial or economic logic in any of your arguments so far,
Many in this Forum want to go to Beijing, Moscow and New York to defend India while disbanding their Army that guards the nation's borders,
Well that is what that stupid Nehru and his cronies in our MEA and bureaucracy did and thought ... Nehru embarked on conquering the world while totally weakening the national defense. All of you know the result... one jataka by China and the world Order of Nehru and his cronies shattered like a pack of cards down Namkha Chu.
Only idiots talk about actually going to Beijing. I have made no such claims. The only thing we need is ballistic missiles + subs capable of wiping out the Chinese seaboard, that's good enough and we have that.
And nobody is talking about "disbanding" the Army, but if you didn't build false strawmen and engage in wild hyperbole, you wouldn't be the (in)famous Bhadra.
Air Power, Sea Power and land power are all element of national security and all three are required to be balance as per needs of National security needs. There is no use going to SouthChina Sea to bomb Beijing when some rag Tag PlA is march down to Tejpur.. can that capability save Leh?
That is also the most harmful approach DODOs also embarked upon. They think that Agni and Prithvi makes 14 Corps or a Naval Flotilla redundant. India's nuclear capabilities have neither deterred Pakistan nor China in pursuing their military adventures on our borders.. and posing existentialist threats to India. In their pursuit of missiles and the bomb, India's security managers completely ignored development in traditional military capabilities and brought us Kargil, Doklam, and Now situation in Ladakh, DODO remained focused on Missiles at the cost of everything else because they wanted to play the role of Nehruvian strategist that will make all other forces redundant and declared them as the supreme National Security Bahgya Vidhata...
Your approach of "X number soldiers for Y number soldiers" isn't much smarter - but apparently you and many people here never heard the phrase "work smarter, not harder."
Keep trying to catch up with yesterday's threats and challenges, and continue lagging behind like always - good luck.
And by the way; it was the emergency procurement of cutting edge weapons tech mated to a fighter like the Mirage which largely bailed India out in Kargil. So much for ground numbers.
This was also the time when India had to go around begging for satellite images from friendly countries.
Everyone in this country is more of a politician and very less professional. Most of the guys who shout about the economics of Security totally ignore how much wastage, proliferation, bloated and unwarranted expenditure is borne on internal security, social security, poverty alleviation, education, and health... just to eat up every thing. Having spent 98 percent of GDP on those issues, where are we in providing social security to our people. The only democratization that has taken place is that in place of a few we now have thousands of undeserving Rajas.
That can largely be traced back to corruption of various hues, at various levels, and evil intentions of past Gvt's. Still it's a largely irrelevant rant. Everyone knows there's wastage (which the current Gvt is doing its best to reduce) - but the military budget is what it is; crying about wastage won't change that.
And also understand that any Gvt which vastly increases the military budget, but does it as the cost of some spending on the public - will have to play a very difficult balancing game to avoid getting kicked out. Even the current hawkish Gvt hasn't been able to raise the budget significantly, but was forced to announce a slew of benefit transfers and pensions before the last elections.
Having granted themselves OROP all civilian govt pensioners target OROP for Ex-servicemen as if without that we were well off and doing great and build all arsenal so freely.. These are the people who sustain 14 million strong Army at WWI ration scales while themselves patronizing five-star Dhabasa and created national health problems in being obese by overeating.. .
Ranting about babus to someone from a multi-generation military family?
Please do not advance such arguments.. those 18 Lakh ex-servicemen are also Indians, have families, liabilities and need social development. No one has ever achieved National Security by starving soldiers and filling their own coffers with arms import scams..
Cut the self-righteous ranting, nobody ever said they weren't Indians or didn't deserve OROP - that is simply a strawman you create. But only an idiot would think that almost doubling the Army in size wouldn't make it almost impossible to sustain the pensions of soldiers when the defense budget hasn't truly increased in years and the MOD already plays dirty games with disabled vets and the families of martyrs as is.
that's useless like my house backyard piled with debris.... Just check over maps run way is destroyed with huge hole and nearby farmers farming around runway. These OSINT guys can spin anything. India wanted to make it overseas base but Russian involvement scuffled our plans way back in 2012 itself
